How will Wootton or RM be affected by new high school in Crown Farm?

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Anonymous wrote:There's a big stretch of land west of Falls Road that goes to Churchill. I've always thought that many of those neighborhoods would be at least as close to Wootton (would be bussed, either way). If Wootton is under capacity, why not move those kids to Wootton and then shift Churchill's boundaries on the other side (north and east of Churchill) to take pressure off of RM and WJ?

Most of them are walkers (less than one mile). So you think they should ride on bus crossing I-270 ? to RM or WJ with 4 times longer in distance ?

I think we're talking about different neighborhoods. There's a neighborhood within walking distance of Churchill that feeds to RM (just north of Montrose). I know kids there who used a Cosa to go to Churchill and walk home on nice days (fairly long walk, but not what you're talking about). Likewise, a huge number of Churchill kids take the 10 minute Ride On ride to Montgomery Mall right after school (just for fun) and in the process, go by neighborhoods that are I think zoned for WJ (at least, they're not Churchill).

Okay, you are talking about Ritchie Park ES. Yes it feeds to RM but they should feed to Churchill if RM is over capacity.

That will never happen.

1. half of RPES kids come from Fallsgrove which is further away from Churchill. Wootton is closer, and so would Crown
2. RPES is the wealthiest of the ES in RM cluster. No way would BOE take them out of RM

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Anonymous wrote:Taking off pressure from RM ? Relocate IB to Churchill !

Rockville would be a better choice, but it's moot since they're expanding the IB to more schools that have already been identified. The list does not include Churchill.

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Anonymous wrote:Taking off pressure from RM ? Relocate IB to Churchill !

Rockville would be a better choice, but it's moot since they're expanding the IB to more schools that have already been identified. The list does not include Churchill.

The biggest deficit with the W's is a lack of diversity which is causing all those ugly racist incidents there.

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I'm hoping Crown Farm provides an opportunity to integrate the W's and provide greater diversity.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a big stretch of land west of Falls Road that goes to Churchill. I've always thought that many of those neighborhoods would be at least as close to Wootton (would be bussed, either way). If Wootton is under capacity, why not move those kids to Wootton and then shift Churchill's boundaries on the other side (north and east of Churchill) to take pressure off of RM and WJ?

This would involve moving Wayside to Frost. Is Frost under capacity?

Wayside is so close to Hoover, why would they do that? They can send the kids from Stonemill back to Frost and absorb some islands of wayside ES maybe.

I seriously think they should open up those seats at under capacity schools for lottery application with no bus service. Students from over capacity school with ever Farm status can be weighed more in the lottery process. That will solve all the problems. No forced boundary changes, every thing can be done voluntarily.

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Now that is an interesting idea!!!

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I seriously think they should open up those seats at under capacity schools for lottery application with no bus service. Students from over capacity school with ever Farm status can be weighed more in the lottery process. That will solve all the problems. No forced boundary changes, every thing can be done voluntarily.

This is what they do in many other school systems. However, this would not reduce the FARMS kids at the other schools. FARMS kids usually do not have the ability to be driven to school by a parent. In fact, low income parents fight bussing too on the grounds that it too much of a hardship to have their kid bussed far away when the parents have no means of transportation to get them. Truancy and drop out rates go up because if a kid misses the bus and can't just walk he doesn't have someone who can drive him so he's out the whole day. The families that would opt into a lottery like this would be the UMC ones. This would further lower the UMC count at the lower performing school.

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Anonymous wrote:As others have said, nobody knows because the BOE hasn't debated what to do yet. As we've seen with some of the recent deliberations, these things can be very fluid.

That said, assuming they make it it's own cluster (as opposed to some sort of consortium school), it would seem to me that they aren't going to want to split up ES zones. So for example, though Fallsgrove is the closest part of RM to the new school, I doubt they will move unless all of Ritchie Park moves, and most of RP is actually pretty far away. In addition, I think they'll want Crown and the slice of Rio that are nearby the new HS to go.

As a result, my guess today would be they send (i) College Gardens (which is all pretty accessible to the new HS via 28) from RM (as opposed to RP, which is further away except for the Fallsgrove portion of RP), (ii) Fallsmead from Wootton (which has the Rio slice; the rest is also pretty accessible to the new HS via 28), (iii) Rosemont from GB (which has Crown) and Fields Road from QO (which is close geographically). I think this would have pretty balanced demographics and not disrupt the demographics much at the existing schools.

That would make sense except for Fallsmead. It would make more sense for Stone Mill to go rather than Fallsmead.

Where exactly are they proposing to build Crown HS?

Do you realize that even thought part of Fallsmead lives at Rio (10%), 80% of Fallmsead are WALKERS. Another 10% lives behind Frost. I live around the corner from Fallsmead. We do not have buses to ES, MS (Frost) or HS (Wootton).
BOE should totally lose their mind to pay for buses for kids who are walkers for 13 years! Even if keep kids in Frost, split them for last 4 year without direct public transportation is insane. ( To get from Rio to Wootton you have to get to Metro - Shady Grove or Rockville. Students ride buses for free, so no revenue from new bus from Rio to Wootton.)
This would be least favorable economic decision for MCPS and Montgomery County.

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Anonymous wrote:1. Why are you so opposed to being districted to the new HS? No one is even sure of the exact boundaries yet, so I have no idea why you'd be against it.

2. The new HS is going to be in the Gaithersburg HS area, so the Dufief/Wootton/RM area will likely not be impacted. However, no one knows for sure yet.

Yes but Dufief is pretty close to Crown Farm. Rio Center is in Wootton district so there is a large chance that wootton will be impacted, though I'm not sure it will be Dufief who is impacted.

Huh? Dufief is not that close to Crown Farm. You must be totally new to
this area.

What are you talking about? Dufief to Crown is 10 min ride max door to door with 4-5 traffic lights. I am in this area for over 20 years...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As others have said, nobody knows because the BOE hasn't debated what to do yet. As we've seen with some of the recent deliberations, these things can be very fluid.

That said, assuming they make it it's own cluster (as opposed to some sort of consortium school), it would seem to me that they aren't going to want to split up ES zones. So for example, though Fallsgrove is the closest part of RM to the new school, I doubt they will move unless all of Ritchie Park moves, and most of RP is actually pretty far away. In addition, I think they'll want Crown and the slice of Rio that are nearby the new HS to go.

As a result, my guess today would be they send (i) College Gardens (which is all pretty accessible to the new HS via 28) from RM (as opposed to RP, which is further away except for the Fallsgrove portion of RP), (ii) Fallsmead from Wootton (which has the Rio slice; the rest is also pretty accessible to the new HS via 28), (iii) Rosemont from GB (which has Crown) and Fields Road from QO (which is close geographically). I think this would have pretty balanced demographics and not disrupt the demographics much at the existing schools.

That would make sense except for Fallsmead. It would make more sense for Stone Mill to go rather than Fallsmead.

Where exactly are they proposing to build Crown HS?

Do you realize that even thought part of Fallsmead lives at Rio (10%), 80% of Fallmsead are WALKERS. Another 10% lives behind Frost. I live around the corner from Fallsmead. We do not have buses to ES, MS (Frost) or HS (Wootton).
BOE should totally lose their mind to pay for buses for kids who are walkers for 13 years! Even if keep kids in Frost, split them for last 4 year without direct public transportation is insane. ( To get from Rio to Wootton you have to get to Metro - Shady Grove or Rockville. Students ride buses for free, so no revenue from new bus from Rio to Wootton.)
This would be least favorable economic decision for MCPS and Montgomery County.

Who said anything about 13 years? Crown is a high school it's only 4 years. The children from Rio will likely get assigned there and possibly the Fallsmead zone down by Watts Branch near Hurley - that is not a walk zone for Wootton HS and is close to Crown/Rio via key West Ave.

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Where exactly are they proposing to build Crown HS?
Do you realize that even thought part of Fallsmead lives at Rio (10%), 80% of Fallmsead are WALKERS. Another 10% lives behind Frost. I live around the corner from Fallsmead. We do not have buses to ES, MS (Frost) or HS (Wootton).
BOE should totally lose their mind to pay for buses for kids who are walkers for 13 years! Even if keep kids in Frost, split them for last 4 year without direct public transportation is insane. ( To get from Rio to Wootton you have to get to Metro - Shady Grove or Rockville. Students ride buses for free, so no revenue from new bus from Rio to Wootton.)
This would be least favorable economic decision for MCPS and Montgomery County.

Who said anything about 13 years? Crown is a high school it's only 4 years. The children from Rio will likely get assigned there and possibly the Fallsmead zone down by Watts Branch near Hurley - that is not a walk zone for Wootton HS and is close to Crown/Rio via key West Ave.

except those area is walk zone to Wootton < 1.3 mile

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Where exactly are they proposing to build Crown HS?

The Crown HS site is in the corner of Fields Rd and Omega Dr.

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Anonymous wrote:Taking off pressure from RM ? Relocate IB to Churchill !

Rockville would be a better choice, but it's moot since they're expanding the IB to more schools that have already been identified. The list does not include Churchill.

Isn’t Churchill over capacity also? CIP shows an addition down the road...

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Where exactly are they proposing to build Crown HS?

Do you realize that even thought part of Fallsmead lives at Rio (10%), 80% of Fallmsead are WALKERS. Another 10% lives behind Frost. I live around the corner from Fallsmead. We do not have buses to ES, MS (Frost) or HS (Wootton).
BOE should totally lose their mind to pay for buses for kids who are walkers for 13 years! Even if keep kids in Frost, split them for last 4 year without direct public transportation is insane. ( To get from Rio to Wootton you have to get to Metro - Shady Grove or Rockville. Students ride buses for free, so no revenue from new bus from Rio to Wootton.)
This would be least favorable economic decision for MCPS and Montgomery County.

Who said anything about 13 years? Crown is a high school it's only 4 years. The children from Rio will likely get assigned there and possibly the Fallsmead zone down by Watts Branch near Hurley - that is not a walk zone for Wootton HS and is close to Crown/Rio via key West Ave.

except those area is walk zone to Wootton < 1.3 mile

Kids in Fallsgrove live walking distance to Lakewood and Wootton but are bussed to Ritchie Park and RM. Just because you are technically close enough to walk to a school doesn't mean you'll get assigned there. Fallsgrove is closer to Wootton than the majority of students who get bussed to Wootton right now....

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Where exactly are they proposing to build Crown HS?

The Crown HS site is in the corner of Fields Rd and Omega Dr.
Look at the satellite view on Google maps. The site stands out.