The US relies on H2 foreign workers to work on farms. There is no way American workers will work those jobs. And before someone says, "Well, if they pay enough they will." Think things through. Business 101... labor is the most expensive part of the cost of goods/services for a company. Unlike the service jobs at Trump's hotels where Americans really did want to work there, but they were the wrong skin color. |
Please list what Dems did specifically to address these points. Minimum wage is state dependent. Also they funded a completely stupid unnecessary war (Ukraine) without even trying to sell it to the masses as some sort of threat (nuclear weapons or funding terror groups, etc). Because of this war gas prices went up during Biden's administration. Looks like you are going to have to remove 6-7
1-3 are meaningless if there are no jobs and "clean energy" cannot possibly sustain job growth of the entire country when our private industry is focused on maximizing profits by reducing labor costs by all means possible. Layoffs due to offshore/foreign visas became unpopular? Let's call them "AI replacement" layoffs just move a whole bunch of jobs overseas.
Dems had done nothing about this, nada.. Healthcare is a complete runaway train, also because now it's become our primary employer in this country. In vast majority of states Healthcare industry is the main job provider. How do you make it affordable without also cutting down on admin costs (which means a LOT of people are going to lose their jobs)? I am not a Republican, BTW, just fed up with "my party is good and yours is bad" useless debates that go nowhere. IDK when we can finally start voting for people vs. political parties. |
not a good approach to require everything before allowing some forward progress. and as indicate , there proposals are NO democrats , NONE, nada, 0. Democrats have abandoned US workers to grovel for big business. |
There's not a labor shortage, there's a livable wage shortage. If your business can't pay a livable wage, then your business is a failure. That's how capitalism works. If you base your business on workers who aren't making a living wage because as illegal immigrants, they have no rights or are afraid to assert them, that's a bad business plan. |
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In Aspen hotels, they get foreign workers on J1 visa to work for cheap. I don't understand why those jobs aren't going to young citizens? |
We know that companies make more profits using cheaper labor, duh. The question is, at which point we will have to do something about it (like taxing foreign offshore labor), when our main employers in the country become 3 sectors that are largely taxpayer dependent (Healthcare, education, government functions). We are becoming a socialized economy. We are already "socialized" if you think about it. We pay taxes on our labor to provide jobs for others, pay for social services, which also provide jobs. Even in states like CA/NY Healthcare and social services are primary employers (despite these states being touted as hubs for Technology and Finance). This is not a good economy, it's an illusion of "business 101" while stock prices and RE prices inflate until the day too many people will have to start cashing out. |
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HR 2315
call your representative today https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/2315/cosponsors |
Or when your workers have to rely on social services and various low income subsidies to survive. Bottom line is, the topic we are discussing is directly related to this, because if you take too many living wage paying jobs and make them unavailable to your citizens then your citizens will have fewer options, and will start looking at low wage service jobs as the only way to survive if unable to get professional jobs or make it in trades. This will start inflating the need for social services and taxpayer sponsored benefits for working poor, because companies employing low wage workers do not want to pay living wages. And in many cases cannot afford to if their margins are already too thin, like in small business setting. You are saying these businesses should fail, but when what is left? I would prefer if we focus on bringing back living wage jobs and/or retaining whatever living wage jobs remain or are going to be created. |
| What did Democrats do? What did Republicans do? You have a trifecta, try using it. Your governance failures are entirely on you and the fact the tech bros who are firing you and hiring H1Bs have bought your hero and left you hanging. |
Who said anything about Trump? This problem has existed since Bush gave it his blessing. Don't argue with me - I'm 100% in the corner of Americans not losing their livelihoods to foreign workers. I don't care who is President. I care that we pass laws protecting American jobs for American employees. |
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Another thread devolving into the party politics bickering while this is a bipartisan issue. Yes, it is bad, this program needs to end, plain and simple. Outsourcing also has to be limited and/or taxed to support American economy. It's really not a republican vs. democrat issue.
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This. The status quo is not a level playing field. It is weirdly biased against US Citizens. |
| Was chatting with some friends who happen to be Indian. They were saying that many H1B positions were being terminated and they know numerous people out of work/leaving. |