The Five school districts with Title IX violations, how much money do they stand to lose?

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FCPS would rather spend 200M of your tax dollars on attorney fees. it would be nice if the taxpayers could vote on these issues.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS would rather spend 200M of your tax dollars on attorney fees. it would be nice if the taxpayers could vote on these issues.

FFS the school districts are complying with VA LAW. They will lose way more if they don't. The DOE could have responded to the letter laying out the laws they were being asked to violate yet they did not. That should tell you something.

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Anonymous wrote:My question is how it is that Arlington County has hired one of the most expensive law firms in the country to fight their cause? I know the question sounds judgmental but I’m genuinely curious. I would be shocked if Wilkie is willing to get in a fight with the administration after having capitulated and reached a Trump compromise for free or for some really reduced rate, but how would we know? That’s a real question: who and how is Arlington paying for this lawsuit? Where does the funding come from and who authorizes it?

Not trying to get into a fight about the merits of this lawsuit, which I know won’t happen on DCUM, but I can try.

Maybe it’s pro-bono.

Fighting facism? Priceless.

There is almost no chance they’re doing it pro-bono. APS is well resourced and chose this fight. Wilkie’s not going to turn down the payday, especially since they are likely to lose in the long run.

Everyone still gets paid and only the students suffer. Should tell you how seriously they take the “fighting fascism” idea.

No law firm thinks they've hit a payday because they're representing a single school district in a fight with the Trump administration.

It's a potentially high profile case and supports LGBQT+ rights. There's a good chance they're doing it for reduced fees or on a capped fee, so not even close to full rates.

FCPS joined the suit and is one of the largest districts in the country

Are they sharing counsel with APS or do they have their own counsel?

With the money APS is spending on this lawsuit, could they have just installed a gender neutral bathroom in whichever school requires one?

Most schools have a private option available for trans kids. Problems arise when that solution is not accepted. That was the Grimm case. A private bathroom was made available but rejected. If these districts (and the activists!) would accept having kids who identify as a gender different than the one observed at birth use a private bathroom, these issues go away. But that means acknowledging they are not actually the gender they present as, so that solution is not accepted.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS would rather spend 200M of your tax dollars on attorney fees. it would be nice if the taxpayers could vote on these issues.

FFS the school districts are complying with VA LAW. They will lose way more if they don't. The DOE could have responded to the letter laying out the laws they were being asked to violate yet they did not. That should tell you something.

Wrong. Read APS’ communications in this front. They say that their approach is “consistent” with VA law, not that it is “required by” VA law. They’re arguing that VA law allows them to do this, and that the federal law/court ruling requires it. There’s a difference and the fact that they felt the need to obscure this fact should tell you something about how weak their arguments are.

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Anonymous wrote:That was quite the meeting last night. Seems the community is strongly in support of the trans kids.

you can support trans teens right to express their identities be called their preferred names and live as they wish while also believing that we need a single stall bathroom and changing areas. You can also support them while realizing that losing funding hurts every student in a school.

+1. Plus, how many people in Arlington with a different opinion would show up in public to say so? They would be branded a bigot, shunned, etc.

Both sides of the debate have become so extreme, it’s sickening. I think most people support what you are saying PP but are too scared to say anything.

Dream on, you are in the bigoted minority. That's why no one with your view speaks up on Arlington. If you really had the numbers, you'd speak up.

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Anonymous wrote:My question is how it is that Arlington County has hired one of the most expensive law firms in the country to fight their cause? I know the question sounds judgmental but I’m genuinely curious. I would be shocked if Wilkie is willing to get in a fight with the administration after having capitulated and reached a Trump compromise for free or for some really reduced rate, but how would we know? That’s a real question: who and how is Arlington paying for this lawsuit? Where does the funding come from and who authorizes it?

Not trying to get into a fight about the merits of this lawsuit, which I know won’t happen on DCUM, but I can try.

Maybe it’s pro-bono.

Fighting facism? Priceless.

There is almost no chance they’re doing it pro-bono. APS is well resourced and chose this fight. Wilkie’s not going to turn down the payday, especially since they are likely to lose in the long run.

Everyone still gets paid and only the students suffer. Should tell you how seriously they take the “fighting fascism” idea.

No law firm thinks they've hit a payday because they're representing a single school district in a fight with the Trump administration.

It's a potentially high profile case and supports LGBQT+ rights. There's a good chance they're doing it for reduced fees or on a capped fee, so not even close to full rates.

FCPS joined the suit and is one of the largest districts in the country

Are they sharing counsel with APS or do they have their own counsel?

With the money APS is spending on this lawsuit, could they have just installed a gender neutral bathroom in whichever school requires one?

Most schools have a private option available for trans kids. Problems arise when that solution is not accepted. That was the Grimm case. A private bathroom was made available but rejected. If these districts (and the activists!) would accept having kids who identify as a gender different than the one observed at birth use a private bathroom, these issues go away. But that means acknowledging they are not actually the gender they present as, so that solution is not accepted.

If your kid doesn't want to share a bathroom with a trans girl, why doesn't your kid use the private bathroom?

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Anonymous wrote:My question is how it is that Arlington County has hired one of the most expensive law firms in the country to fight their cause? I know the question sounds judgmental but I’m genuinely curious. I would be shocked if Wilkie is willing to get in a fight with the administration after having capitulated and reached a Trump compromise for free or for some really reduced rate, but how would we know? That’s a real question: who and how is Arlington paying for this lawsuit? Where does the funding come from and who authorizes it?

Not trying to get into a fight about the merits of this lawsuit, which I know won’t happen on DCUM, but I can try.

Maybe it’s pro-bono.

Fighting facism? Priceless.

There is almost no chance they’re doing it pro-bono. APS is well resourced and chose this fight. Wilkie’s not going to turn down the payday, especially since they are likely to lose in the long run.

Everyone still gets paid and only the students suffer. Should tell you how seriously they take the “fighting fascism” idea.

No law firm thinks they've hit a payday because they're representing a single school district in a fight with the Trump administration.

It's a potentially high profile case and supports LGBQT+ rights. There's a good chance they're doing it for reduced fees or on a capped fee, so not even close to full rates.

FCPS joined the suit and is one of the largest districts in the country

Are they sharing counsel with APS or do they have their own counsel?

With the money APS is spending on this lawsuit, could they have just installed a gender neutral bathroom in whichever school requires one?

Most schools have a private option available for trans kids. Problems arise when that solution is not accepted. That was the Grimm case. A private bathroom was made available but rejected. If these districts (and the activists!) would accept having kids who identify as a gender different than the one observed at birth use a private bathroom, these issues go away. But that means acknowledging they are not actually the gender they present as, so that solution is not accepted.

A private bathroom is good, and more than fair.

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Anonymous wrote:My question is how it is that Arlington County has hired one of the most expensive law firms in the country to fight their cause? I know the question sounds judgmental but I’m genuinely curious. I would be shocked if Wilkie is willing to get in a fight with the administration after having capitulated and reached a Trump compromise for free or for some really reduced rate, but how would we know? That’s a real question: who and how is Arlington paying for this lawsuit? Where does the funding come from and who authorizes it?

Not trying to get into a fight about the merits of this lawsuit, which I know won’t happen on DCUM, but I can try.

Maybe it’s pro-bono.

Fighting facism? Priceless.

There is almost no chance they’re doing it pro-bono. APS is well resourced and chose this fight. Wilkie’s not going to turn down the payday, especially since they are likely to lose in the long run.

Everyone still gets paid and only the students suffer. Should tell you how seriously they take the “fighting fascism” idea.

No law firm thinks they've hit a payday because they're representing a single school district in a fight with the Trump administration.

It's a potentially high profile case and supports LGBQT+ rights. There's a good chance they're doing it for reduced fees or on a capped fee, so not even close to full rates.

FCPS joined the suit and is one of the largest districts in the country

Are they sharing counsel with APS or do they have their own counsel?

With the money APS is spending on this lawsuit, could they have just installed a gender neutral bathroom in whichever school requires one?

Most schools have a private option available for trans kids. Problems arise when that solution is not accepted. That was the Grimm case. A private bathroom was made available but rejected. If these districts (and the activists!) would accept having kids who identify as a gender different than the one observed at birth use a private bathroom, these issues go away. But that means acknowledging they are not actually the gender they present as, so that solution is not accepted.

If your kid doesn't want to share a bathroom with a trans girl, why doesn't your kid use the private bathroom?

If your trans kid doesn’t want to share a bathroom with their birth sex, why doesn’t your trans kid use the private bathroom?

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My cisgender kid would love to use a private bathroom. A lot of them would. Maybe you should remind your trans kid of that. It’s a nice accommodation.

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Anonymous wrote:My question is how it is that Arlington County has hired one of the most expensive law firms in the country to fight their cause? I know the question sounds judgmental but I’m genuinely curious. I would be shocked if Wilkie is willing to get in a fight with the administration after having capitulated and reached a Trump compromise for free or for some really reduced rate, but how would we know? That’s a real question: who and how is Arlington paying for this lawsuit? Where does the funding come from and who authorizes it?

Not trying to get into a fight about the merits of this lawsuit, which I know won’t happen on DCUM, but I can try.

Maybe it’s pro-bono.

Fighting facism? Priceless.

There is almost no chance they’re doing it pro-bono. APS is well resourced and chose this fight. Wilkie’s not going to turn down the payday, especially since they are likely to lose in the long run.

Everyone still gets paid and only the students suffer. Should tell you how seriously they take the “fighting fascism” idea.

No law firm thinks they've hit a payday because they're representing a single school district in a fight with the Trump administration.

It's a potentially high profile case and supports LGBQT+ rights. There's a good chance they're doing it for reduced fees or on a capped fee, so not even close to full rates.

FCPS joined the suit and is one of the largest districts in the country

Are they sharing counsel with APS or do they have their own counsel?

With the money APS is spending on this lawsuit, could they have just installed a gender neutral bathroom in whichever school requires one?

Most schools have a private option available for trans kids. Problems arise when that solution is not accepted. That was the Grimm case. A private bathroom was made available but rejected. If these districts (and the activists!) would accept having kids who identify as a gender different than the one observed at birth use a private bathroom, these issues go away. But that means acknowledging they are not actually the gender they present as, so that solution is not accepted.

If your kid doesn't want to share a bathroom with a trans girl, why doesn't your kid use the private bathroom?

If your trans kid doesn’t want to share a bathroom with their birth sex, why doesn’t your trans kid use the private bathroom?

Trans kids are fine with the policy as is - if you have a problem why can't your kid use the private bathroom? Or is it really YOU with the problem and not your kid?

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Anonymous wrote:My cisgender kid would love to use a private bathroom. A lot of them would. Maybe you should remind your trans kid of that. It’s a nice accommodation.

Then ask to use it, doesn't the policy now allow them that?

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Anonymous wrote:My question is how it is that Arlington County has hired one of the most expensive law firms in the country to fight their cause? I know the question sounds judgmental but I’m genuinely curious. I would be shocked if Wilkie is willing to get in a fight with the administration after having capitulated and reached a Trump compromise for free or for some really reduced rate, but how would we know? That’s a real question: who and how is Arlington paying for this lawsuit? Where does the funding come from and who authorizes it?

Not trying to get into a fight about the merits of this lawsuit, which I know won’t happen on DCUM, but I can try.

Maybe it’s pro-bono.

Fighting facism? Priceless.

There is almost no chance they’re doing it pro-bono. APS is well resourced and chose this fight. Wilkie’s not going to turn down the payday, especially since they are likely to lose in the long run.

Everyone still gets paid and only the students suffer. Should tell you how seriously they take the “fighting fascism” idea.

No law firm thinks they've hit a payday because they're representing a single school district in a fight with the Trump administration.

It's a potentially high profile case and supports LGBQT+ rights. There's a good chance they're doing it for reduced fees or on a capped fee, so not even close to full rates.

FCPS joined the suit and is one of the largest districts in the country

Are they sharing counsel with APS or do they have their own counsel?

With the money APS is spending on this lawsuit, could they have just installed a gender neutral bathroom in whichever school requires one?

Most schools have a private option available for trans kids. Problems arise when that solution is not accepted. That was the Grimm case. A private bathroom was made available but rejected. If these districts (and the activists!) would accept having kids who identify as a gender different than the one observed at birth use a private bathroom, these issues go away. But that means acknowledging they are not actually the gender they present as, so that solution is not accepted.

If your kid doesn't want to share a bathroom with a trans girl, why doesn't your kid use the private bathroom?

If your trans kid doesn’t want to share a bathroom with their birth sex, why doesn’t your trans kid use the private bathroom?

Trans kids are fine with the policy as is - if you have a problem why can't your kid use the private bathroom? Or is it really YOU with the problem and not your kid?

It’s cute how you use this argument about bathrooms, as if the women’s sports issue isn’t just as bad. What are they supposed to do when it’s time to take the field? If your argument is “they can just go form their own sports league”, you’re basically saying there can be no taxpayer-funded female-only spaces or activities. None. There is no space or activity that schools can provide that must not allow a male to enter at will. Go ahead and continue to make this argument.

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Anonymous wrote:My question is how it is that Arlington County has hired one of the most expensive law firms in the country to fight their cause? I know the question sounds judgmental but I’m genuinely curious. I would be shocked if Wilkie is willing to get in a fight with the administration after having capitulated and reached a Trump compromise for free or for some really reduced rate, but how would we know? That’s a real question: who and how is Arlington paying for this lawsuit? Where does the funding come from and who authorizes it?

Not trying to get into a fight about the merits of this lawsuit, which I know won’t happen on DCUM, but I can try.

Maybe it’s pro-bono.

Fighting facism? Priceless.

There is almost no chance they’re doing it pro-bono. APS is well resourced and chose this fight. Wilkie’s not going to turn down the payday, especially since they are likely to lose in the long run.

Everyone still gets paid and only the students suffer. Should tell you how seriously they take the “fighting fascism” idea.

No law firm thinks they've hit a payday because they're representing a single school district in a fight with the Trump administration.

It's a potentially high profile case and supports LGBQT+ rights. There's a good chance they're doing it for reduced fees or on a capped fee, so not even close to full rates.

FCPS joined the suit and is one of the largest districts in the country

Are they sharing counsel with APS or do they have their own counsel?

With the money APS is spending on this lawsuit, could they have just installed a gender neutral bathroom in whichever school requires one?

Most schools have a private option available for trans kids. Problems arise when that solution is not accepted. That was the Grimm case. A private bathroom was made available but rejected. If these districts (and the activists!) would accept having kids who identify as a gender different than the one observed at birth use a private bathroom, these issues go away. But that means acknowledging they are not actually the gender they present as, so that solution is not accepted.

If your kid doesn't want to share a bathroom with a trans girl, why doesn't your kid use the private bathroom?

If your trans kid doesn’t want to share a bathroom with their birth sex, why doesn’t your trans kid use the private bathroom?

Trans kids are fine with the policy as is - if you have a problem why can't your kid use the private bathroom? Or is it really YOU with the problem and not your kid?

It’s cute how you use this argument about bathrooms, as if the women’s sports issue isn’t just as bad. What are they supposed to do when it’s time to take the field? If your argument is “they can just go form their own sports league”, you’re basically saying there can be no taxpayer-funded female-only spaces or activities. None. There is no space or activity that schools can provide that must not allow a male to enter at will. Go ahead and continue to make this argument.

NP. That is in fact the argument they are making. In legal terms, this is about a conflict of rights, and the position of the district, as well as all the people supporting the district, is that when there is a direct conflict between gender-based rights versus sex-based rights, gender-based rights are the more important right and must prevail. Under their legal framework, girls and women (under the sex-based definition of them) have no legal rights that cannot be fully abrogated by gender identity. That is exactly what they want.

The school district is willing to spend millions of dollars to try to enshrine this legal framework, which is why they are doing this. It isn’t just about this one situation. It is about permanently destroying the sex-based rights of students in favor of gender-based rights.

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Anonymous wrote:My question is how it is that Arlington County has hired one of the most expensive law firms in the country to fight their cause? I know the question sounds judgmental but I’m genuinely curious. I would be shocked if Wilkie is willing to get in a fight with the administration after having capitulated and reached a Trump compromise for free or for some really reduced rate, but how would we know? That’s a real question: who and how is Arlington paying for this lawsuit? Where does the funding come from and who authorizes it?

Not trying to get into a fight about the merits of this lawsuit, which I know won’t happen on DCUM, but I can try.

Maybe it’s pro-bono.

Fighting facism? Priceless.

There is almost no chance they’re doing it pro-bono. APS is well resourced and chose this fight. Wilkie’s not going to turn down the payday, especially since they are likely to lose in the long run.

Everyone still gets paid and only the students suffer. Should tell you how seriously they take the “fighting fascism” idea.

No law firm thinks they've hit a payday because they're representing a single school district in a fight with the Trump administration.

It's a potentially high profile case and supports LGBQT+ rights. There's a good chance they're doing it for reduced fees or on a capped fee, so not even close to full rates.

FCPS joined the suit and is one of the largest districts in the country

Are they sharing counsel with APS or do they have their own counsel?

With the money APS is spending on this lawsuit, could they have just installed a gender neutral bathroom in whichever school requires one?

Most schools have a private option available for trans kids. Problems arise when that solution is not accepted. That was the Grimm case. A private bathroom was made available but rejected. If these districts (and the activists!) would accept having kids who identify as a gender different than the one observed at birth use a private bathroom, these issues go away. But that means acknowledging they are not actually the gender they present as, so that solution is not accepted.

If your kid doesn't want to share a bathroom with a trans girl, why doesn't your kid use the private bathroom?

I’m not the pp you quoted, but there are more kids that would want to use the private bathrooms, than can reasonably be accommodated.

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Anonymous wrote:My question is how it is that Arlington County has hired one of the most expensive law firms in the country to fight their cause? I know the question sounds judgmental but I’m genuinely curious. I would be shocked if Wilkie is willing to get in a fight with the administration after having capitulated and reached a Trump compromise for free or for some really reduced rate, but how would we know? That’s a real question: who and how is Arlington paying for this lawsuit? Where does the funding come from and who authorizes it?

Not trying to get into a fight about the merits of this lawsuit, which I know won’t happen on DCUM, but I can try.

Maybe it’s pro-bono.

Fighting facism? Priceless.

There is almost no chance they’re doing it pro-bono. APS is well resourced and chose this fight. Wilkie’s not going to turn down the payday, especially since they are likely to lose in the long run.

Everyone still gets paid and only the students suffer. Should tell you how seriously they take the “fighting fascism” idea.

No law firm thinks they've hit a payday because they're representing a single school district in a fight with the Trump administration.

It's a potentially high profile case and supports LGBQT+ rights. There's a good chance they're doing it for reduced fees or on a capped fee, so not even close to full rates.

FCPS joined the suit and is one of the largest districts in the country

Are they sharing counsel with APS or do they have their own counsel?

With the money APS is spending on this lawsuit, could they have just installed a gender neutral bathroom in whichever school requires one?

Most schools have a private option available for trans kids. Problems arise when that solution is not accepted. That was the Grimm case. A private bathroom was made available but rejected. If these districts (and the activists!) would accept having kids who identify as a gender different than the one observed at birth use a private bathroom, these issues go away. But that means acknowledging they are not actually the gender they present as, so that solution is not accepted.

If your kid doesn't want to share a bathroom with a trans girl, why doesn't your kid use the private bathroom?

They aren’t allowed, it’s only for kids with prior approval and cause.

If I could sign up my DD to always use a private bathroom, I would be all over that.