IVF embryos are people too

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Candidate Nicki Haley said today she agrees with the Court's decision. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nikki-haley-sides-with-alabama-supreme-court-on-ivf-ruling-embryos-to-me-are-babies/ar-BB1iFt7D

She had children via fertility treatments. “Embryos, to me, are babies,” Haley told NBC News in an interview, adding that she used artificial insemination to have her son, a different process than IVF that doesn’t present the same complexities around creating embryos in a lab. “When you talk about an embryo, you are talking about, to me, that’s a life. And so I do see where that’s coming from when they talk about that.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/moderate-nikki-haley-agrees-with-alabama-ivf-ruling.html

Did she just out her husband as being sterile?

No. But she did out herself as a giant hypocrite. Willing to let the doctors play God when it suits her but also willing to suggest other women should not. I have ZERO doubt she would have moved to ivf if iui hadn't been successful. Like many women who desperately want children. Pro life my ass.

+1. God made “his will” abundantly clear here- he did not want Nikki and her husband to be parents. Probably because her heart is dead, and her soul is black. She should have prayed for his forgiveness and blessing and sought to adopt instead of taking matters into her own hands and forcing what God clearly did not want for her.

Between this and the cheating, it is clear Nikki is not a moral woman.

(Obvious sarcasm for those who are going through infertility and are as pissed off at this Serena Joy as I am)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Candidate Nicki Haley said today she agrees with the Court's decision. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nikki-haley-sides-with-alabama-supreme-court-on-ivf-ruling-embryos-to-me-are-babies/ar-BB1iFt7D

She had children via fertility treatments. “Embryos, to me, are babies,” Haley told NBC News in an interview, adding that she used artificial insemination to have her son, a different process than IVF that doesn’t present the same complexities around creating embryos in a lab. “When you talk about an embryo, you are talking about, to me, that’s a life. And so I do see where that’s coming from when they talk about that.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/moderate-nikki-haley-agrees-with-alabama-ivf-ruling.html

Did she just out her husband as being sterile?

Why did you leap to her husband being sterile? Artificial insemination in a heterosexual couple usually involves taking sperm from the male and transferring it to the uterus of the female. It can be required if the sperm count is low or they are not motile. It is usually a precursor to IVF.
However it is disgusting though not surprising that Haley would pander.

+1

It's what she does. It's her worst trait.

Don't think supporting the end of IVF is going to get her many votes. 2 percent of births are IVF.

On the off chance she somehow stumbles into the nomination, she'll be pro choice. If there is one thing about her that's predictable, it's strong, heartfelt stances that shift to whatever she thinks will advance her career

Pro choice voters are not interested in GOP nonsense. Fool this country once, shame on the GOP, fool us twice shame on us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Candidate Nicki Haley said today she agrees with the Court's decision. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nikki-haley-sides-with-alabama-supreme-court-on-ivf-ruling-embryos-to-me-are-babies/ar-BB1iFt7D

She had children via fertility treatments. “Embryos, to me, are babies,” Haley told NBC News in an interview, adding that she used artificial insemination to have her son, a different process than IVF that doesn’t present the same complexities around creating embryos in a lab. “When you talk about an embryo, you are talking about, to me, that’s a life. And so I do see where that’s coming from when they talk about that.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/moderate-nikki-haley-agrees-with-alabama-ivf-ruling.html

Did she just out her husband as being sterile?

Why did you leap to her husband being sterile? Artificial insemination in a heterosexual couple usually involves taking sperm from the male and transferring it to the uterus of the female. It can be required if the sperm count is low or they are not motile. It is usually a precursor to IVF.
However it is disgusting though not surprising that Haley would pander.

+1

It's what she does. It's her worst trait.

Don't think supporting the end of IVF is going to get her many votes. 2 percent of births are IVF.

On the off chance she somehow stumbles into the nomination, she'll be pro choice. If there is one thing about her that's predictable, it's strong, heartfelt stances that shift to whatever she thinks will advance her career

The GOP candidate in the last congressional special election tried that mealy-mouthed gobbeldygook and she lost. Forget it GOP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Candidate Nicki Haley said today she agrees with the Court's decision. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nikki-haley-sides-with-alabama-supreme-court-on-ivf-ruling-embryos-to-me-are-babies/ar-BB1iFt7D

She had children via fertility treatments. “Embryos, to me, are babies,” Haley told NBC News in an interview, adding that she used artificial insemination to have her son, a different process than IVF that doesn’t present the same complexities around creating embryos in a lab. “When you talk about an embryo, you are talking about, to me, that’s a life. And so I do see where that’s coming from when they talk about that.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/moderate-nikki-haley-agrees-with-alabama-ivf-ruling.html

Did she just out her husband as being sterile?

Why did you leap to her husband being sterile? Artificial insemination in a heterosexual couple usually involves taking sperm from the male and transferring it to the uterus of the female. It can be required if the sperm count is low or they are not motile. It is usually a precursor to IVF.
However it is disgusting though not surprising that Haley would pander.

+1

It's what she does. It's her worst trait.

Don't think supporting the end of IVF is going to get her many votes. 2 percent of births are IVF.

That is 1 in 50 people under about 40 I would guess. Try to find a person that does not know or care about some one that is here on earth because of IVF. Doubt you can do it.

And?
What does that prove?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Candidate Nicki Haley said today she agrees with the Court's decision. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nikki-haley-sides-with-alabama-supreme-court-on-ivf-ruling-embryos-to-me-are-babies/ar-BB1iFt7D

She had children via fertility treatments. “Embryos, to me, are babies,” Haley told NBC News in an interview, adding that she used artificial insemination to have her son, a different process than IVF that doesn’t present the same complexities around creating embryos in a lab. “When you talk about an embryo, you are talking about, to me, that’s a life. And so I do see where that’s coming from when they talk about that.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/moderate-nikki-haley-agrees-with-alabama-ivf-ruling.html

Did she just out her husband as being sterile?

Why did you leap to her husband being sterile? Artificial insemination in a heterosexual couple usually involves taking sperm from the male and transferring it to the uterus of the female. It can be required if the sperm count is low or they are not motile. It is usually a precursor to IVF.
However it is disgusting though not surprising that Haley would pander.

+1

It's what she does. It's her worst trait.

Don't think supporting the end of IVF is going to get her many votes. 2 percent of births are IVF.

98% are not then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Candidate Nicki Haley said today she agrees with the Court's decision. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nikki-haley-sides-with-alabama-supreme-court-on-ivf-ruling-embryos-to-me-are-babies/ar-BB1iFt7D

She had children via fertility treatments. “Embryos, to me, are babies,” Haley told NBC News in an interview, adding that she used artificial insemination to have her son, a different process than IVF that doesn’t present the same complexities around creating embryos in a lab. “When you talk about an embryo, you are talking about, to me, that’s a life. And so I do see where that’s coming from when they talk about that.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/moderate-nikki-haley-agrees-with-alabama-ivf-ruling.html

Did she just out her husband as being sterile?

Why did you leap to her husband being sterile? Artificial insemination in a heterosexual couple usually involves taking sperm from the male and transferring it to the uterus of the female. It can be required if the sperm count is low or they are not motile. It is usually a precursor to IVF.
However it is disgusting though not surprising that Haley would pander.

+1

It's what she does. It's her worst trait.

Don't think supporting the end of IVF is going to get her many votes. 2 percent of births are IVF.

That is 1 in 50 people under about 40 I would guess. Try to find a person that does not know or care about some one that is here on earth because of IVF. Doubt you can do it.

And?
What does that prove?

The destruction of the availability of IVF treatments at fertility clinics is not a popular position to support

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Candidate Nicki Haley said today she agrees with the Court's decision. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nikki-haley-sides-with-alabama-supreme-court-on-ivf-ruling-embryos-to-me-are-babies/ar-BB1iFt7D

She had children via fertility treatments. “Embryos, to me, are babies,” Haley told NBC News in an interview, adding that she used artificial insemination to have her son, a different process than IVF that doesn’t present the same complexities around creating embryos in a lab. “When you talk about an embryo, you are talking about, to me, that’s a life. And so I do see where that’s coming from when they talk about that.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/moderate-nikki-haley-agrees-with-alabama-ivf-ruling.html

Did she just out her husband as being sterile?

Why did you leap to her husband being sterile? Artificial insemination in a heterosexual couple usually involves taking sperm from the male and transferring it to the uterus of the female. It can be required if the sperm count is low or they are not motile. It is usually a precursor to IVF.
However it is disgusting though not surprising that Haley would pander.

+1

It's what she does. It's her worst trait.

Don't think supporting the end of IVF is going to get her many votes. 2 percent of births are IVF.

98% are not then.

2 percent is very significant. That means almost everyone is familiar with the importance of this treatment either directly in their family or through someone they know.

[Anonymous]

So can women with ectopic pregnancies even be treated in Alabama anymore? Because that would be seen as a life that cannot be destroyed.... Well, at least until the woman dies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So can women with ectopic pregnancies even be treated in Alabama anymore? Because that would be seen as a life that cannot be destroyed.... Well, at least until the woman dies

Just say no to being pregnant in Alabama.

[Anonymous]

Pretty soon it's going to be just say no to getting pregnant anywhere in this country because some of these precidents are going to be very far reaching

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Candidate Nicki Haley said today she agrees with the Court's decision. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nikki-haley-sides-with-alabama-supreme-court-on-ivf-ruling-embryos-to-me-are-babies/ar-BB1iFt7D

She had children via fertility treatments. “Embryos, to me, are babies,” Haley told NBC News in an interview, adding that she used artificial insemination to have her son, a different process than IVF that doesn’t present the same complexities around creating embryos in a lab. “When you talk about an embryo, you are talking about, to me, that’s a life. And so I do see where that’s coming from when they talk about that.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/moderate-nikki-haley-agrees-with-alabama-ivf-ruling.html

Did she just out her husband as being sterile?

Haley has decided that she didn't say the thing she said on camera

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4482507-haley-didnt-say-agreed-alabama-ivf-ruling/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Candidate Nicki Haley said today she agrees with the Court's decision. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nikki-haley-sides-with-alabama-supreme-court-on-ivf-ruling-embryos-to-me-are-babies/ar-BB1iFt7D

She had children via fertility treatments. “Embryos, to me, are babies,” Haley told NBC News in an interview, adding that she used artificial insemination to have her son, a different process than IVF that doesn’t present the same complexities around creating embryos in a lab. “When you talk about an embryo, you are talking about, to me, that’s a life. And so I do see where that’s coming from when they talk about that.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/moderate-nikki-haley-agrees-with-alabama-ivf-ruling.html

Did she just out her husband as being sterile?

Haley has decided that she didn't say the thing she said on camera

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4482507-haley-didnt-say-agreed-alabama-ivf-ruling/

What thte heck is she saying? What does "utmost respect" mean? If these frozen embryos are the same as children that that is the end of IVF services Nikki Haley. What is your position and be clear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pretty soon it's going to be just say no to getting pregnant anywhere in this country because some of these precidents are going to be very far reaching

I’d like to get us to a point where so-called “pro life” women become the handmaids for everyone else. If bearing children isn’t such a huge deal that we can force people to do it against their will, then we should force those Fascists to bear everyone else’s babies, including IVF embryos, until their uteruses fall out or they die. For the men, mandatory blood and organ donation. Use ‘em up until every baby has what they need.

[Anonymous]

GOP clearly wants all women having babies as the only thing they do - they want to outlaw contraceptives and take away choice for abortion.

I think that IVF is part of that gameplan of taking away the choice part for families of how they breed. It's all about traditions, religious freakdom and a very select few making the rules. The Evangelical Right's mission is to bring back a different time - they feel that in this day and age of various freedoms - LGBT and wokeness - they need to do a hard right to get back to a time they feel comfortable with.

I think esp in deep south, where religion and traditions reign, they can push this agenda but not throughout the entire country. What this does is splinter the country further and I'm less concerned if I live in a northern, progressive, Dem ruled state in the US that this will impact me as much as I would be in states that are not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:GOP clearly wants all women having babies as the only thing they do - they want to outlaw contraceptives and take away choice for abortion.

I think that IVF is part of that gameplan of taking away the choice part for families of how they breed. It's all about traditions, religious freakdom and a very select few making the rules. The Evangelical Right's mission is to bring back a different time - they feel that in this day and age of various freedoms - LGBT and wokeness - they need to do a hard right to get back to a time they feel comfortable with.

I think esp in deep south, where religion and traditions reign, they can push this agenda but not throughout the entire country. What this does is splinter the country further and I'm less concerned if I live in a northern, progressive, Dem ruled state in the US that this will impact me as much as I would be in states that are not.

Their daughters are going to leave for better options in other states. I guess their sons can just hang with each other.