A quarter of the teachers at Lakewood Elementary are leaving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child who graduated from Lakewood ES years ago, I always thought that the teachers should look more like the student body. Studies have shown that students do better when teachers look more like them.

If the new teachers who are being hired by Dr. Kelly look more like the student body and represent the student body more (like a soft quota), then I think it is not necessarily a bad thing that 10 out of 40 teachers left.

If Dr. Kelly is responsive to her school and her student body, then she probably should hire new teachers accordingly, right?

Yes, people should only associate with others of the same race. How absurd.

Good faith arguments, please. I previously cited a study published by MDSE showing that students of all races benefit from having diverse teachers: see page 42.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/stateboard/Documents/2022/0726/TabGBlueprintAndDataDeepDiveTeacherPipelineAndDiversity.pdf

Significance of Matching Effects in Education
•“For both Black and Hispanic students, we find consistent evidence that increased diversity amongst teachers and broader sets of school
professionals benefits test-score performance, and—in several instances—also leads to improved school behaviors.”

• “Increased shares of same-race/ethnicity professionals result in increased test scores, and decreased suspensions and absences for
Black and Hispanic students. We also find that exposure to nonWhite school staff leads to improved outcomes for these students, whether or not they are from the same racial/ethnic group.”

— David Blazar, Professor at the University of Maryland College Park
Findings based on Maryland data, courtesy of the Maryland Longitudinal Data System

Seriously, they need diversity in Principals. Most new MCPS principals have no diversity.

[Anonymous]

Principals are suppose to support and help teachers and not threaten their career if they don't manage up the data in an arbitrary manner. We need to admit this dynamic if we want to restore accountability in education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Principals are suppose to support and help teachers and not threaten their career if they don't manage up the data in an arbitrary manner. We need to admit this dynamic if we want to restore accountability in education.

What does this mean? Are you the same poster upthread talking about "fixing the data" bc I've never heard of this .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child who graduated from Lakewood ES years ago, I always thought that the teachers should look more like the student body. Studies have shown that students do better when teachers look more like them.

If the new teachers who are being hired by Dr. Kelly look more like the student body and represent the student body more (like a soft quota), then I think it is not necessarily a bad thing that 10 out of 40 teachers left.

If Dr. Kelly is responsive to her school and her student body, then she probably should hire new teachers accordingly, right?

Yes, people should only associate with others of the same race. How absurd.

Good faith arguments, please. I previously cited a study published by MDSE showing that students of all races benefit from having diverse teachers: see page 42.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/stateboard/Documents/2022/0726/TabGBlueprintAndDataDeepDiveTeacherPipelineAndDiversity.pdf

Significance of Matching Effects in Education
•“For both Black and Hispanic students, we find consistent evidence that increased diversity amongst teachers and broader sets of school
professionals benefits test-score performance, and—in several instances—also leads to improved school behaviors.”

• “Increased shares of same-race/ethnicity professionals result in increased test scores, and decreased suspensions and absences for
Black and Hispanic students. We also find that exposure to nonWhite school staff leads to improved outcomes for these students, whether or not they are from the same racial/ethnic group.”

— David Blazar, Professor at the University of Maryland College Park
Findings based on Maryland data, courtesy of the Maryland Longitudinal Data System

Seriously, they need diversity in Principals. Most new MCPS principals have no diversity.

I agree that a diverse staff and admin in schools is only good for kids. But given how few people there are applying for any of these jobs, diversity has to take a back seat to any qualified person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child who graduated from Lakewood ES years ago, I always thought that the teachers should look more like the student body. Studies have shown that students do better when teachers look more like them.

If the new teachers who are being hired by Dr. Kelly look more like the student body and represent the student body more (like a soft quota), then I think it is not necessarily a bad thing that 10 out of 40 teachers left.

If Dr. Kelly is responsive to her school and her student body, then she probably should hire new teachers accordingly, right?

Yes, people should only associate with others of the same race. How absurd.

Good faith arguments, please. I previously cited a study published by MDSE showing that students of all races benefit from having diverse teachers: see page 42.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/stateboard/Documents/2022/0726/TabGBlueprintAndDataDeepDiveTeacherPipelineAndDiversity.pdf

Significance of Matching Effects in Education
•“For both Black and Hispanic students, we find consistent evidence that increased diversity amongst teachers and broader sets of school
professionals benefits test-score performance, and—in several instances—also leads to improved school behaviors.”

• “Increased shares of same-race/ethnicity professionals result in increased test scores, and decreased suspensions and absences for
Black and Hispanic students. We also find that exposure to nonWhite school staff leads to improved outcomes for these students, whether or not they are from the same racial/ethnic group.”

— David Blazar, Professor at the University of Maryland College Park
Findings based on Maryland data, courtesy of the Maryland Longitudinal Data System

Seriously, they need diversity in Principals. Most new MCPS principals have no diversity.

I agree that a diverse staff and admin in schools is only good for kids. But given how few people there are applying for any of these jobs, diversity has to take a back seat to any qualified person.

THIS!! I'm on the hiring committee for my very diverse elementary school in upper MoCo. We could certainly benefit from having more staff of color but we don't get the applicants. My principal strongly believes in this so she is diligent about bringing anyone in for an interview who might be a good fit for our community. Unfortunately, the Germantown/Damascus/Clarksburg areas aren't getting the same number of diverse applicants as the schools closer in to Silver Spring. I'm not sure if this is the availability of housing or general thoughts of what these areas might be like. Just like any candidate, we've interviewed a few great ones and hired them and we've interviewed many poor candidates. I remember we had one BIPOC candidate who interviewed and couldn't answer the most basic of questions. When asked about how to teach a lesson for a certain subject she said she wouldn't feel comfortable teaching reading. I mean, this is an elementary classroom position...you have to be able to teach reading. My principal even gave the woman feedback and offered her the chance to come back and interview again for the position a week later. The woman came back and in and still fumbled through the interview. Is this who you would want teaching your second grader ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child who graduated from Lakewood ES years ago, I always thought that the teachers should look more like the student body. Studies have shown that students do better when teachers look more like them.

If the new teachers who are being hired by Dr. Kelly look more like the student body and represent the student body more (like a soft quota), then I think it is not necessarily a bad thing that 10 out of 40 teachers left.

If Dr. Kelly is responsive to her school and her student body, then she probably should hire new teachers accordingly, right?

Yes, people should only associate with others of the same race. How absurd.

Good faith arguments, please. I previously cited a study published by MDSE showing that students of all races benefit from having diverse teachers: see page 42.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/stateboard/Documents/2022/0726/TabGBlueprintAndDataDeepDiveTeacherPipelineAndDiversity.pdf

Significance of Matching Effects in Education
•“For both Black and Hispanic students, we find consistent evidence that increased diversity amongst teachers and broader sets of school
professionals benefits test-score performance, and—in several instances—also leads to improved school behaviors.”

• “Increased shares of same-race/ethnicity professionals result in increased test scores, and decreased suspensions and absences for
Black and Hispanic students. We also find that exposure to nonWhite school staff leads to improved outcomes for these students, whether or not they are from the same racial/ethnic group.”

— David Blazar, Professor at the University of Maryland College Park
Findings based on Maryland data, courtesy of the Maryland Longitudinal Data System

Seriously, they need diversity in Principals. Most new MCPS principals have no diversity.

I agree that a diverse staff and admin in schools is only good for kids. But given how few people there are applying for any of these jobs, diversity has to take a back seat to any qualified person.

THIS!! I'm on the hiring committee for my very diverse elementary school in upper MoCo. We could certainly benefit from having more staff of color but we don't get the applicants. My principal strongly believes in this so she is diligent about bringing anyone in for an interview who might be a good fit for our community. Unfortunately, the Germantown/Damascus/Clarksburg areas aren't getting the same number of diverse applicants as the schools closer in to Silver Spring. I'm not sure if this is the availability of housing or general thoughts of what these areas might be like. Just like any candidate, we've interviewed a few great ones and hired them and we've interviewed many poor candidates. I remember we had one BIPOC candidate who interviewed and couldn't answer the most basic of questions. When asked about how to teach a lesson for a certain subject she said she wouldn't feel comfortable teaching reading. I mean, this is an elementary classroom position...you have to be able to teach reading. My principal even gave the woman feedback and offered her the chance to come back and interview again for the position a week later. The woman came back and in and still fumbled through the interview. Is this who you would want teaching your second grader ?

I think you misunderstood what I meant. When I said diversity must take a back seat to qualified applicants, I did NOT mean that the minority candidates are not qualified. I meant we aren't getting ANY candidates, period. A better way to say what I meant would be, "While I 100% support hiring more minority candidates, and I believe that staff should reflect the diversity present in schools, there are so few candidates applying if any apply at all. Therefore, instead of holding out for the rare teacher of color applicant, schools must hire any warm body with a teaching degree." I've never met a teacher of color who wasn't qualified. But what I do see is that very few applicants are minorities. I don't know if that is because they aren't out there or if it means they aren't making it through the initial application process. But the candidates I've seen who are interviewed are all white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child who graduated from Lakewood ES years ago, I always thought that the teachers should look more like the student body. Studies have shown that students do better when teachers look more like them.

If the new teachers who are being hired by Dr. Kelly look more like the student body and represent the student body more (like a soft quota), then I think it is not necessarily a bad thing that 10 out of 40 teachers left.

If Dr. Kelly is responsive to her school and her student body, then she probably should hire new teachers accordingly, right?

Yes, people should only associate with others of the same race. How absurd.

Good faith arguments, please. I previously cited a study published by MDSE showing that students of all races benefit from having diverse teachers: see page 42.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/stateboard/Documents/2022/0726/TabGBlueprintAndDataDeepDiveTeacherPipelineAndDiversity.pdf

Significance of Matching Effects in Education
•“For both Black and Hispanic students, we find consistent evidence that increased diversity amongst teachers and broader sets of school
professionals benefits test-score performance, and—in several instances—also leads to improved school behaviors.”

• “Increased shares of same-race/ethnicity professionals result in increased test scores, and decreased suspensions and absences for
Black and Hispanic students. We also find that exposure to nonWhite school staff leads to improved outcomes for these students, whether or not they are from the same racial/ethnic group.”

— David Blazar, Professor at the University of Maryland College Park
Findings based on Maryland data, courtesy of the Maryland Longitudinal Data System

Seriously, they need diversity in Principals. Most new MCPS principals have no diversity.

I agree that a diverse staff and admin in schools is only good for kids. But given how few people there are applying for any of these jobs, diversity has to take a back seat to any qualified person.

Something occurred to me last week. The baby boomers are retiring creating huge gaps in staffing in all professions. Most teachers are white, especially older staff. 79% of teachers in the U.S. are white. While these older, white staff are retiring, the demographics of the country are shifting. Clearly not enough minority college students are interested in teaching to fill the gaps. I wonder how we can turn it around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child who graduated from Lakewood ES years ago, I always thought that the teachers should look more like the student body. Studies have shown that students do better when teachers look more like them.

If the new teachers who are being hired by Dr. Kelly look more like the student body and represent the student body more (like a soft quota), then I think it is not necessarily a bad thing that 10 out of 40 teachers left.

If Dr. Kelly is responsive to her school and her student body, then she probably should hire new teachers accordingly, right?

Yes, people should only associate with others of the same race. How absurd.

Good faith arguments, please. I previously cited a study published by MDSE showing that students of all races benefit from having diverse teachers: see page 42.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/stateboard/Documents/2022/0726/TabGBlueprintAndDataDeepDiveTeacherPipelineAndDiversity.pdf

Significance of Matching Effects in Education
•“For both Black and Hispanic students, we find consistent evidence that increased diversity amongst teachers and broader sets of school
professionals benefits test-score performance, and—in several instances—also leads to improved school behaviors.”

• “Increased shares of same-race/ethnicity professionals result in increased test scores, and decreased suspensions and absences for
Black and Hispanic students. We also find that exposure to nonWhite school staff leads to improved outcomes for these students, whether or not they are from the same racial/ethnic group.”

— David Blazar, Professor at the University of Maryland College Park
Findings based on Maryland data, courtesy of the Maryland Longitudinal Data System

Seriously, they need diversity in Principals. Most new MCPS principals have no diversity.

I agree that a diverse staff and admin in schools is only good for kids. But given how few people there are applying for any of these jobs, diversity has to take a back seat to any qualified person.

Something occurred to me last week. The baby boomers are retiring creating huge gaps in staffing in all professions. Most teachers are white, especially older staff. 79% of teachers in the U.S. are white. While these older, white staff are retiring, the demographics of the country are shifting. Clearly not enough minority college students are interested in teaching to fill the gaps. I wonder how we can turn it around.

Simple: better pay and working conditions.

Well, maybe not so simple in our current, fraught times.

[Anonymous]

The dynamic is about blaming and messing with careers if teachers open their blabbering mouths about what goes on at the direction of superiors. Don't play dumb. It's a systemic open secret that is easy to see motive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child who graduated from Lakewood ES years ago, I always thought that the teachers should look more like the student body. Studies have shown that students do better when teachers look more like them.

If the new teachers who are being hired by Dr. Kelly look more like the student body and represent the student body more (like a soft quota), then I think it is not necessarily a bad thing that 10 out of 40 teachers left.

If Dr. Kelly is responsive to her school and her student body, then she probably should hire new teachers accordingly, right?

Yes, people should only associate with others of the same race. How absurd.

Good faith arguments, please. I previously cited a study published by MDSE showing that students of all races benefit from having diverse teachers: see page 42.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/stateboard/Documents/2022/0726/TabGBlueprintAndDataDeepDiveTeacherPipelineAndDiversity.pdf

Significance of Matching Effects in Education
•“For both Black and Hispanic students, we find consistent evidence that increased diversity amongst teachers and broader sets of school
professionals benefits test-score performance, and—in several instances—also leads to improved school behaviors.”

• “Increased shares of same-race/ethnicity professionals result in increased test scores, and decreased suspensions and absences for
Black and Hispanic students. We also find that exposure to nonWhite school staff leads to improved outcomes for these students, whether or not they are from the same racial/ethnic group.”

— David Blazar, Professor at the University of Maryland College Park
Findings based on Maryland data, courtesy of the Maryland Longitudinal Data System

Seriously, they need diversity in Principals. Most new MCPS principals have no diversity.

I agree that a diverse staff and admin in schools is only good for kids. But given how few people there are applying for any of these jobs, diversity has to take a back seat to any qualified person.

Something occurred to me last week. The baby boomers are retiring creating huge gaps in staffing in all professions. Most teachers are white, especially older staff. 79% of teachers in the U.S. are white. While these older, white staff are retiring, the demographics of the country are shifting. Clearly not enough minority college students are interested in teaching to fill the gaps. I wonder how we can turn it around.

This demographic cliff, as well as the need for teachers that reflect the student body, is something Black and brown teachers and administrators have understood and been taking steps to address for years. HBCUs have specific outreach, Black and Latino professional affinity groups and professional organizations have set up mentorship programs, and both groups have developed a strong culture of "passing it forward" when it comes to mentoring promising young teaching talent, either to be the best classroom teacher they can be, or to eventually move to administration.

These are not programs created by white folks for Black/brown folks, but rather stemming from not that long ago when Black teachers needed to be taught separately because they were only allowed to teach in segregated schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child who graduated from Lakewood ES years ago, I always thought that the teachers should look more like the student body. Studies have shown that students do better when teachers look more like them.

If the new teachers who are being hired by Dr. Kelly look more like the student body and represent the student body more (like a soft quota), then I think it is not necessarily a bad thing that 10 out of 40 teachers left.

If Dr. Kelly is responsive to her school and her student body, then she probably should hire new teachers accordingly, right?

Yes, people should only associate with others of the same race. How absurd.

Good faith arguments, please. I previously cited a study published by MDSE showing that students of all races benefit from having diverse teachers: see page 42.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/stateboard/Documents/2022/0726/TabGBlueprintAndDataDeepDiveTeacherPipelineAndDiversity.pdf

Significance of Matching Effects in Education
•“For both Black and Hispanic students, we find consistent evidence that increased diversity amongst teachers and broader sets of school
professionals benefits test-score performance, and—in several instances—also leads to improved school behaviors.”

• “Increased shares of same-race/ethnicity professionals result in increased test scores, and decreased suspensions and absences for
Black and Hispanic students. We also find that exposure to nonWhite school staff leads to improved outcomes for these students, whether or not they are from the same racial/ethnic group.”

— David Blazar, Professor at the University of Maryland College Park
Findings based on Maryland data, courtesy of the Maryland Longitudinal Data System

Seriously, they need diversity in Principals. Most new MCPS principals have no diversity.

Diversity is not a thing that individual people can have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child who graduated from Lakewood ES years ago, I always thought that the teachers should look more like the student body. Studies have shown that students do better when teachers look more like them.

If the new teachers who are being hired by Dr. Kelly look more like the student body and represent the student body more (like a soft quota), then I think it is not necessarily a bad thing that 10 out of 40 teachers left.

If Dr. Kelly is responsive to her school and her student body, then she probably should hire new teachers accordingly, right?

Yes, people should only associate with others of the same race. How absurd.

Good faith arguments, please. I previously cited a study published by MDSE showing that students of all races benefit from having diverse teachers: see page 42.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/stateboard/Documents/2022/0726/TabGBlueprintAndDataDeepDiveTeacherPipelineAndDiversity.pdf

Significance of Matching Effects in Education
•“For both Black and Hispanic students, we find consistent evidence that increased diversity amongst teachers and broader sets of school
professionals benefits test-score performance, and—in several instances—also leads to improved school behaviors.”

• “Increased shares of same-race/ethnicity professionals result in increased test scores, and decreased suspensions and absences for
Black and Hispanic students. We also find that exposure to nonWhite school staff leads to improved outcomes for these students, whether or not they are from the same racial/ethnic group.”

— David Blazar, Professor at the University of Maryland College Park
Findings based on Maryland data, courtesy of the Maryland Longitudinal Data System

Seriously, they need diversity in Principals. Most new MCPS principals have no diversity.

Really? All McKnight's appointments that I saw were AA women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child who graduated from Lakewood ES years ago, I always thought that the teachers should look more like the student body. Studies have shown that students do better when teachers look more like them.

If the new teachers who are being hired by Dr. Kelly look more like the student body and represent the student body more (like a soft quota), then I think it is not necessarily a bad thing that 10 out of 40 teachers left.

If Dr. Kelly is responsive to her school and her student body, then she probably should hire new teachers accordingly, right?

Yes, people should only associate with others of the same race. How absurd.

Good faith arguments, please. I previously cited a study published by MDSE showing that students of all races benefit from having diverse teachers: see page 42.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/stateboard/Documents/2022/0726/TabGBlueprintAndDataDeepDiveTeacherPipelineAndDiversity.pdf

Significance of Matching Effects in Education
•“For both Black and Hispanic students, we find consistent evidence that increased diversity amongst teachers and broader sets of school
professionals benefits test-score performance, and—in several instances—also leads to improved school behaviors.”

• “Increased shares of same-race/ethnicity professionals result in increased test scores, and decreased suspensions and absences for
Black and Hispanic students. We also find that exposure to nonWhite school staff leads to improved outcomes for these students, whether or not they are from the same racial/ethnic group.”

— David Blazar, Professor at the University of Maryland College Park
Findings based on Maryland data, courtesy of the Maryland Longitudinal Data System

Seriously, they need diversity in Principals. Most new MCPS principals have no diversity.

Really? All McKnight's appointments that I saw were AA women.

Then I guess you didn't see the recent appointments of Joel Beidleman, Stephanie Brant, Michelle Fortune, Peter Young, Isabelle Mensah, Darshan Jain, Jason Jefferson, Vilma Najera, Jennifer Redden, Travis Wiebe, or Stephanie Dinga

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The dynamic is about blaming and messing with careers if teachers open their blabbering mouths about what goes on at the direction of superiors. Don't play dumb. It's a systemic open secret that is easy to see motive.

We get it. You couldn't hack it as a teacher and are grasping at straws to blame someone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a child who graduated from Lakewood ES years ago, I always thought that the teachers should look more like the student body. Studies have shown that students do better when teachers look more like them.

If the new teachers who are being hired by Dr. Kelly look more like the student body and represent the student body more (like a soft quota), then I think it is not necessarily a bad thing that 10 out of 40 teachers left.

If Dr. Kelly is responsive to her school and her student body, then she probably should hire new teachers accordingly, right?

Yes, people should only associate with others of the same race. How absurd.

Good faith arguments, please. I previously cited a study published by MDSE showing that students of all races benefit from having diverse teachers: see page 42.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/stateboard/Documents/2022/0726/TabGBlueprintAndDataDeepDiveTeacherPipelineAndDiversity.pdf

Significance of Matching Effects in Education
•“For both Black and Hispanic students, we find consistent evidence that increased diversity amongst teachers and broader sets of school
professionals benefits test-score performance, and—in several instances—also leads to improved school behaviors.”

• “Increased shares of same-race/ethnicity professionals result in increased test scores, and decreased suspensions and absences for
Black and Hispanic students. We also find that exposure to nonWhite school staff leads to improved outcomes for these students, whether or not they are from the same racial/ethnic group.”

— David Blazar, Professor at the University of Maryland College Park
Findings based on Maryland data, courtesy of the Maryland Longitudinal Data System

Seriously, they need diversity in Principals. Most new MCPS principals have no diversity.

Really? All McKnight's appointments that I saw were AA women.

Some people can only see what they're looking for.