A quarter of the teachers at Lakewood Elementary are leaving.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

Again, they spend more money in high FARMS schools because they RECEIVE money based on the number of FARMS students, some of which they are actually required to spend on FARMS students.

And W schools receive less money which means they are being short-changed just as I said. It's insult to injury because most of the money comes from W school neighborhoods even if we're talking about state money. It's not like it's coming from Baltimore or the MD panhandle.

They aren't being shortchanged. They get money that MCPS receives based on the number of low income children. They are stealing from poor kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

Again, they spend more money in high FARMS schools because they RECEIVE money based on the number of FARMS students, some of which they are actually required to spend on FARMS students.

And W schools receive less money which means they are being short-changed just as I said. It's insult to injury because most of the money comes from W school neighborhoods even if we're talking about state money. It's not like it's coming from Baltimore or the MD panhandle.

This information is publicly available, and it shows that the biggest gap is between self-contained programs and everyone else. There are schools spending $70K - $105K per pupil. Once you get beyond those six or so schools, the difference between per pupil spending at the neediest vs. least needy schools is a much narrower gap.

Would you make the case that typically developing kids are being "short changed" by the kids in those programs?

I wouldn't, because I'm not a monster. You shouldn't, either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

Again, they spend more money in high FARMS schools because they RECEIVE money based on the number of FARMS students, some of which they are actually required to spend on FARMS students.

And W schools receive less money which means they are being short-changed just as I said. It's insult to injury because most of the money comes from W school neighborhoods even if we're talking about state money. It's not like it's coming from Baltimore or the MD panhandle.

They aren't being shortchanged. They get money that MCPS receives based on the number of low income children. They are stealing from poor kids.

Of course they're being short-changed, if not by MCPS then by the state and federal government. But it sounds like they're being robbed by by all 3.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

Again, they spend more money in high FARMS schools because they RECEIVE money based on the number of FARMS students, some of which they are actually required to spend on FARMS students.

And W schools receive less money which means they are being short-changed just as I said. It's insult to injury because most of the money comes from W school neighborhoods even if we're talking about state money. It's not like it's coming from Baltimore or the MD panhandle.

They aren't being shortchanged. They get money that MCPS receives based on the number of low income children. They are stealing from poor kids.

Of course they're being short-changed, if not by MCPS then by the state and federal government. But it sounds like they're being robbed by by all 3.

It's called a representative democracy. The people chose their leaders who decided how much to tax and what to spend tax dollars on. Go live on an island with no government if you don't like it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

I'd heard the PTA at many of these schools raise a small fortune to supplement their school budget further.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

I'd heard the PTA at many of these schools raise a small fortune to supplement their school budget further.

Correct. I am absolutely fine with the highest needs schools getting more money to meet the exceptional needs of their students. They need those resources to meet even the basic level needs of kids who are living in poverty, have experienced trauma, or who need support to access the curriculum.

It costs less money to educate kids who are arriving at school well rested, well fed, and highly supported. If those parents want to use their private funds to build a planetarium at the school or whatever, good for them, but I'm fine with the highest need schools getting more taxpayer money. It's good for society if we educate all children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

Again, they spend more money in high FARMS schools because they RECEIVE money based on the number of FARMS students, some of which they are actually required to spend on FARMS students.

And W schools receive less money which means they are being short-changed just as I said. It's insult to injury because most of the money comes from W school neighborhoods even if we're talking about state money. It's not like it's coming from Baltimore or the MD panhandle.

They aren't being shortchanged. They get money that MCPS receives based on the number of low income children. They are stealing from poor kids.

Of course they're being short-changed, if not by MCPS then by the state and federal government. But it sounds like they're being robbed by by all 3.

It's called a representative democracy. The people chose their leaders who decided how much to tax and what to spend tax dollars on. Go live on an island with no government if you don't like it.

OK, so you agree that kids in W schools are being short-changed. I'm glad we can start from a place of truthfulness. Many progressives are out hawking the lie that schools in poor neighborhoods don't get as much money as W schools. Now we can discuss the degree to which W schools should or shouldn't get short-changed. Do you want to start or shall I?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

Because it's taking so much money from W schools that some of them don't have basic necessities while schools in poor neighborhoods receive millions of dollars more per year. That's simply ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

Because it's taking so much money from W schools that some of them don't have basic necessities while schools in poor neighborhoods receive millions of dollars more per year. That's simply ridiculous.

Which schools are not having their basic necessities met? Please be specific.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

I'd heard the PTA at many of these schools raise a small fortune to supplement their school budget further.

Unfortunately progressives passed policies that prevent PTAs from funding anything that would have a meaningful positive impact on learning. This shows exactly what equity is....keep a lid on the top schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

I'd heard the PTA at many of these schools raise a small fortune to supplement their school budget further.

Unfortunately progressives passed policies that prevent PTAs from funding anything that would have a meaningful positive impact on learning. This shows exactly what equity is....keep a lid on the top schools.

Are you referring to the fact that PTAs cannot fund teacher positions? Because that's been Maryland state law forever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

I'd heard the PTA at many of these schools raise a small fortune to supplement their school budget further.

Correct. I am absolutely fine with the highest needs schools getting more money to meet the exceptional needs of their students. They need those resources to meet even the basic level needs of kids who are living in poverty, have experienced trauma, or who need support to access the curriculum.

It costs less money to educate kids who are arriving at school well rested, well fed, and highly supported. If those parents want to use their private funds to build a planetarium at the school or whatever, good for them, but I'm fine with the highest need schools getting more taxpayer money. It's good for society if we educate all children.

MCPS should educate all children equally. Spending millions more in schools in poor neighborhoods is simply throwing good money after bad. Some of these schools have truancy rates that are through the roof. Imagine what kids at Whitman or Churchill could do if their schools received an equal amount of money. And then imagine what it would be like if those schools received money commensurate with the amount paid by the families in those neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

I'd heard the PTA at many of these schools raise a small fortune to supplement their school budget further.

Unfortunately progressives passed policies that prevent PTAs from funding anything that would have a meaningful positive impact on learning. This shows exactly what equity is....keep a lid on the top schools.

Are you referring to the fact that PTAs cannot fund teacher positions? Because that's been Maryland state law forever.

Not just teachers. Any staff. PTAs also cannot fund anything structural. And there are numerous other prohibitions I cannot recall right now. But yes, progressives did make this change a while ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

Because it's taking so much money from W schools that some of them don't have basic necessities while schools in poor neighborhoods receive millions of dollars more per year. That's simply ridiculous.

Which schools are not having their basic necessities met? Please be specific.

Many W schools like Poolesville and Wootton are crumbling.
And all W school have a much higher student to teacher ratio, so they are being short-changed that way every day. There are many instances of classes being combined because W schools aren't allotted enough teachers. Meanwhile schools in poorer neighborhoods are overflowing with staff and teachers. They can afford this with the millions of dollars more they receive every year. It's simply unfair.