A quarter of the teachers at Lakewood Elementary are leaving.

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Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

I'd heard the PTA at many of these schools raise a small fortune to supplement their school budget further.

Correct. I am absolutely fine with the highest needs schools getting more money to meet the exceptional needs of their students. They need those resources to meet even the basic level needs of kids who are living in poverty, have experienced trauma, or who need support to access the curriculum.

It costs less money to educate kids who are arriving at school well rested, well fed, and highly supported. If those parents want to use their private funds to build a planetarium at the school or whatever, good for them, but I'm fine with the highest need schools getting more taxpayer money. It's good for society if we educate all children.

MCPS should educate all children equally. Spending millions more in schools in poor neighborhoods is simply throwing good money after bad. Some of these schools have truancy rates that are through the roof. Imagine what kids at Whitman or Churchill could do if their schools received an equal amount of money. And then imagine what it would be like if those schools received money commensurate with the amount paid by the families in those neighborhoods.

Interesting that you would mention Whitman and Churchill.

PPE for Whitman is $14,052

PPE for Churchill is $13,632

For comparison, Montgomery Blair is $13,591 which is less than either of those.

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Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

I'd heard the PTA at many of these schools raise a small fortune to supplement their school budget further.

Correct. I am absolutely fine with the highest needs schools getting more money to meet the exceptional needs of their students. They need those resources to meet even the basic level needs of kids who are living in poverty, have experienced trauma, or who need support to access the curriculum.

It costs less money to educate kids who are arriving at school well rested, well fed, and highly supported. If those parents want to use their private funds to build a planetarium at the school or whatever, good for them, but I'm fine with the highest need schools getting more taxpayer money. It's good for society if we educate all children.

MCPS should educate all children equally. Spending millions more in schools in poor neighborhoods is simply throwing good money after bad. Some of these schools have truancy rates that are through the roof. Imagine what kids at Whitman or Churchill could do if their schools received an equal amount of money. And then imagine what it would be like if those schools received money commensurate with the amount paid by the families in those neighborhoods.

Interesting that you would mention Whitman and Churchill.

PPE for Whitman is $14,052

PPE for Churchill is $13,632

For comparison, Montgomery Blair is $13,591 which is less than either of those.

That's not what MCPS said. Where did you find those numbers?

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Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

I'd heard the PTA at many of these schools raise a small fortune to supplement their school budget further.

Correct. I am absolutely fine with the highest needs schools getting more money to meet the exceptional needs of their students. They need those resources to meet even the basic level needs of kids who are living in poverty, have experienced trauma, or who need support to access the curriculum.

It costs less money to educate kids who are arriving at school well rested, well fed, and highly supported. If those parents want to use their private funds to build a planetarium at the school or whatever, good for them, but I'm fine with the highest need schools getting more taxpayer money. It's good for society if we educate all children.

MCPS should educate all children equally. Spending millions more in schools in poor neighborhoods is simply throwing good money after bad. Some of these schools have truancy rates that are through the roof. Imagine what kids at Whitman or Churchill could do if their schools received an equal amount of money. And then imagine what it would be like if those schools received money commensurate with the amount paid by the families in those neighborhoods.

Interesting that you would mention Whitman and Churchill.

PPE for Whitman is $14,052

PPE for Churchill is $13,632

For comparison, Montgomery Blair is $13,591 which is less than either of those.

That's not what MCPS said. Where did you find those numbers?

State of Maryland website: https://oese.ed.gov/ppe/maryland/

Can you link where you found your numbers?

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Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

I'd heard the PTA at many of these schools raise a small fortune to supplement their school budget further.

Correct. I am absolutely fine with the highest needs schools getting more money to meet the exceptional needs of their students. They need those resources to meet even the basic level needs of kids who are living in poverty, have experienced trauma, or who need support to access the curriculum.

It costs less money to educate kids who are arriving at school well rested, well fed, and highly supported. If those parents want to use their private funds to build a planetarium at the school or whatever, good for them, but I'm fine with the highest need schools getting more taxpayer money. It's good for society if we educate all children.

MCPS should educate all children equally. Spending millions more in schools in poor neighborhoods is simply throwing good money after bad. Some of these schools have truancy rates that are through the roof. Imagine what kids at Whitman or Churchill could do if their schools received an equal amount of money. And then imagine what it would be like if those schools received money commensurate with the amount paid by the families in those neighborhoods.

Interesting that you would mention Whitman and Churchill.

PPE for Whitman is $14,052

PPE for Churchill is $13,632

For comparison, Montgomery Blair is $13,591 which is less than either of those.

That's not what MCPS said. Where did you find those numbers?

State of Maryland website: https://oese.ed.gov/ppe/maryland/

Can you link where you found your numbers?

Thank you. It was a letter from the BOE to the county council after the OLO accused the BOE of not spending enough on schools in poor neighborhoods. I think if we took the average of east county schools and west county schools, we'd find what the BOE said is true. Given their obsession with equity, how could it not be?

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Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

I'd heard the PTA at many of these schools raise a small fortune to supplement their school budget further.

Correct. I am absolutely fine with the highest needs schools getting more money to meet the exceptional needs of their students. They need those resources to meet even the basic level needs of kids who are living in poverty, have experienced trauma, or who need support to access the curriculum.

It costs less money to educate kids who are arriving at school well rested, well fed, and highly supported. If those parents want to use their private funds to build a planetarium at the school or whatever, good for them, but I'm fine with the highest need schools getting more taxpayer money. It's good for society if we educate all children.

MCPS should educate all children equally. Spending millions more in schools in poor neighborhoods is simply throwing good money after bad. Some of these schools have truancy rates that are through the roof. Imagine what kids at Whitman or Churchill could do if their schools received an equal amount of money. And then imagine what it would be like if those schools received money commensurate with the amount paid by the families in those neighborhoods.

Interesting that you would mention Whitman and Churchill.

PPE for Whitman is $14,052

PPE for Churchill is $13,632

For comparison, Montgomery Blair is $13,591 which is less than either of those.

That's not what MCPS said. Where did you find those numbers?

State of Maryland website: https://oese.ed.gov/ppe/maryland/

Can you link where you found your numbers?

Thank you. It was a letter from the BOE to the county council after the OLO accused the BOE of not spending enough on schools in poor neighborhoods. I think if we took the average of east county schools and west county schools, we'd find what the BOE said is true. Given their obsession with equity, how could it not be?

I get the sense you are working yourself up over documents you have barely skimmed. Maybe read them more carefully.

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Anonymous wrote:We moved to this neighborhood because of the school district. I've really liked the teachers my son has had; they have all been helpful, caring and communicative with me. But I know at least two of them are leaving! When I heard that, I told my husband that we should just sell our house, move to a condo and send the kinds to private school.

I'm told the new principal is making it a toxic workplace. Does anyone know what the f*** is going on?

I guess not everyone is cut out for teaching.

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Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

Because it's taking so much money from W schools that some of them don't have basic necessities while schools in poor neighborhoods receive millions of dollars more per year. That's simply ridiculous.

What basic necessities do the W schools NOT have that other schools have? We have an old outdated building and don't even have a huge amount of AP classes. I'm sure your school has more than ours.

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Anonymous wrote:We moved to this neighborhood because of the school district. I've really liked the teachers my son has had; they have all been helpful, caring and communicative with me. But I know at least two of them are leaving! When I heard that, I told my husband that we should just sell our house, move to a condo and send the kinds to private school.

I'm told the new principal is making it a toxic workplace. Does anyone know what the f*** is going on?

Different school but ES had turnover in the 30% range. Covid and school closures destroyed education.

Not many teachers left during covid for Lakewood. A quarter left after one year of new principle.

There have been several posts with this, and I have to say something: It's PRINCIPAL., not principle.

Thank you. I was trying to hold back. The principal is your pal. Or in this case, not your pal.

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Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

Because it's taking so much money from W schools that some of them don't have basic necessities while schools in poor neighborhoods receive millions of dollars more per year. That's simply ridiculous.

What basic necessities do the W schools NOT have that other schools have? We have an old outdated building and don't even have a huge amount of AP classes. I'm sure your school has more than ours.

If you're in a school in a poor neighborhood, you get millions more than our school. That's to try to educate a lot of kids who don't even show up. Such a waste. But to answer your question, teachers. We need a lot more teachers.

Pity you won't send your kids to my kids' poor high school. They have on average about 15 students in each class. There's a lot they don't have, but they do have small classes!

We send our kids to the school they're zoned for. But thank you for telling the truth. The real pity is that MCPS is short-changing the W schools so this can happen in your school. The risk of getting stabbed or shot in a bathroom is lower at W schools though, so the we put up with the larger classes.

They didn't get into the magnets and you're bitter. Is that it?

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Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

Because it's taking so much money from W schools that some of them don't have basic necessities while schools in poor neighborhoods receive millions of dollars more per year. That's simply ridiculous.

What basic necessities do the W schools NOT have that other schools have? We have an old outdated building and don't even have a huge amount of AP classes. I'm sure your school has more than ours.

If you're in a school in a poor neighborhood, you get millions more than our school. That's to try to educate a lot of kids who don't even show up. Such a waste. But to answer your question, teachers. We need a lot more teachers.

Pity you won't send your kids to my kids' poor high school. They have on average about 15 students in each class. There's a lot they don't have, but they do have small classes!

We send our kids to the school they're zoned for. But thank you for telling the truth. The real pity is that MCPS is short-changing the W schools so this can happen in your school. The risk of getting stabbed or shot in a bathroom is lower at W schools though, so the we put up with the larger classes.

Really? The W schools had more shootings and stabbings this year than our school did.

W parents r n denial. Those schools are unsafe.

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Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.

Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.

How is that "short-changing the W schools" if high poverty schools have greater needs?

Because it's taking so much money from W schools that some of them don't have basic necessities while schools in poor neighborhoods receive millions of dollars more per year. That's simply ridiculous.

What basic necessities do the W schools NOT have that other schools have? We have an old outdated building and don't even have a huge amount of AP classes. I'm sure your school has more than ours.

If you're in a school in a poor neighborhood, you get millions more than our school. That's to try to educate a lot of kids who don't even show up. Such a waste. But to answer your question, teachers. We need a lot more teachers.

Pity you won't send your kids to my kids' poor high school. They have on average about 15 students in each class. There's a lot they don't have, but they do have small classes!

We send our kids to the school they're zoned for. But thank you for telling the truth. The real pity is that MCPS is short-changing the W schools so this can happen in your school. The risk of getting stabbed or shot in a bathroom is lower at W schools though, so the we put up with the larger classes.

Really? The W schools had more shootings and stabbings this year than our school did.

It seems like they're no different than anyplace really despite what some may want you to think.

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Anonymous wrote:We moved to this neighborhood because of the school district. I've really liked the teachers my son has had; they have all been helpful, caring and communicative with me. But I know at least two of them are leaving! When I heard that, I told my husband that we should just sell our house, move to a condo and send the kinds to private school.

I'm told the new principal is making it a toxic workplace. Does anyone know what the f*** is going on?

I guess not everyone is cut out for teaching.

People leave their professions all the time to find a career that they're better suited to.