A quarter of the teachers at Lakewood Elementary are leaving.

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Anonymous wrote:The key to understanding this situation is to read The Marxification of Education by James Lindsay, or listen to it on audible. The confusion about the principal and the vague double language she is uses surrounding equity, change etc. are explained. After the reading the book you will be able to understand the principal, what she is trying to do, and to some extent anticipate her. You will also understand why the best teachers are leaving.


Well, I mean, if you want to read the perspective of someone who completely rejects the idea that systemic racism exists/existed in the past, and has repercussions that are still felt today then, sure, read some James Lindsay. But it's unlikely to give you any insight to the LES principal's perspective or serve much of a purpose.



All children of all races should be treated equally. If the Principal can't do this and is so obsessed with race, she probably shouldn't be teaching kids?

Yes, all children of all races should be treated equally. Sounds great. Life isn't always so simple. Some kids are born into systemic poverty with roots going back to slavery. Some are immigrants with parents working 3+ minimum wage jobs to stay afloat. Some kids are born to wealthy parents, with one stay-at-home. Do you take those differences in background into account when you're treating all children of all races equally?


So are you suggesting those kids should be treated better than others based on this?


Differently doesn’t mean better. It means each child getting what they need to survive. Some children may need more supports. Or they may need alternatives that other kids don’t need. If I have a vegetarian child and another who is an omnivore teenage athlete, I can’t give both a chicken breast for their dinner entree and think I’ve met their needs.
Sure. But in MCPS's case it all comes down to money. And MCPS is spending millions more per year in schools in poor neighborhoods compared with wealthier ones. That means they are spending millions LESS is schools in wealthier neighborhoods. So in your example, you'd give your athlete 2/3 the food he needs so you can feed your other child something different.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know how the new staff are doing at this school? And is the situation improving at all? Any negative impact being felt by kids?


Sadly no one is asking this question of Farquhar which I heard is still a mess. MCPS needs to clean house at Lakeland’s and Farquhar…and probably others
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Anonymous wrote:The key to understanding this situation is to read The Marxification of Education by James Lindsay, or listen to it on audible. The confusion about the principal and the vague double language she is uses surrounding equity, change etc. are explained. After the reading the book you will be able to understand the principal, what she is trying to do, and to some extent anticipate her. You will also understand why the best teachers are leaving.


Well, I mean, if you want to read the perspective of someone who completely rejects the idea that systemic racism exists/existed in the past, and has repercussions that are still felt today then, sure, read some James Lindsay. But it's unlikely to give you any insight to the LES principal's perspective or serve much of a purpose.



All children of all races should be treated equally. If the Principal can't do this and is so obsessed with race, she probably shouldn't be teaching kids?

Yes, all children of all races should be treated equally. Sounds great. Life isn't always so simple. Some kids are born into systemic poverty with roots going back to slavery. Some are immigrants with parents working 3+ minimum wage jobs to stay afloat. Some kids are born to wealthy parents, with one stay-at-home. Do you take those differences in background into account when you're treating all children of all races equally?


So are you suggesting those kids should be treated better than others based on this?


Differently doesn’t mean better. It means each child getting what they need to survive. Some children may need more supports. Or they may need alternatives that other kids don’t need. If I have a vegetarian child and another who is an omnivore teenage athlete, I can’t give both a chicken breast for their dinner entree and think I’ve met their needs.
Sure. But in MCPS's case it all comes down to money. And MCPS is spending millions more per year in schools in poor neighborhoods compared with wealthier ones. That means they are spending millions LESS is schools in wealthier neighborhoods. So in your example, you'd give your athlete 2/3 the food he needs so you can feed your other child something different.


A better analogy is having a lactose intolerant child (kid in high FARMs school) and one who isn’t, but wants to drink organic (kid in low FARMs school). Both kids need Vitamin D. You buy two different milks but you do it from Aldi where it is cheaper rather than Giant. So the lactose intolerant kid is getting Aldi’s Friendly Farms Lactose Free Milk rather than pricey Lactaid and the other kid is getting Simply Nature Organic rather than pricey Horizon Organic. Sure, you could insist that both kids just drink regular milk, but why?
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Anonymous wrote:The key to understanding this situation is to read The Marxification of Education by James Lindsay, or listen to it on audible. The confusion about the principal and the vague double language she is uses surrounding equity, change etc. are explained. After the reading the book you will be able to understand the principal, what she is trying to do, and to some extent anticipate her. You will also understand why the best teachers are leaving.


Well, I mean, if you want to read the perspective of someone who completely rejects the idea that systemic racism exists/existed in the past, and has repercussions that are still felt today then, sure, read some James Lindsay. But it's unlikely to give you any insight to the LES principal's perspective or serve much of a purpose.



All children of all races should be treated equally. If the Principal can't do this and is so obsessed with race, she probably shouldn't be teaching kids?

Yes, all children of all races should be treated equally. Sounds great. Life isn't always so simple. Some kids are born into systemic poverty with roots going back to slavery. Some are immigrants with parents working 3+ minimum wage jobs to stay afloat. Some kids are born to wealthy parents, with one stay-at-home. Do you take those differences in background into account when you're treating all children of all races equally?


So are you suggesting those kids should be treated better than others based on this?


Differently doesn’t mean better. It means each child getting what they need to survive. Some children may need more supports. Or they may need alternatives that other kids don’t need. If I have a vegetarian child and another who is an omnivore teenage athlete, I can’t give both a chicken breast for their dinner entree and think I’ve met their needs.
Sure. But in MCPS's case it all comes down to money. And MCPS is spending millions more per year in schools in poor neighborhoods compared with wealthier ones. That means they are spending millions LESS is schools in wealthier neighborhoods. So in your example, you'd give your athlete 2/3 the food he needs so you can feed your other child something different.


A better analogy is having a lactose intolerant child (kid in high FARMs school) and one who isn’t, but wants to drink organic (kid in low FARMs school). Both kids need Vitamin D. You buy two different milks but you do it from Aldi where it is cheaper rather than Giant. So the lactose intolerant kid is getting Aldi’s Friendly Farms Lactose Free Milk rather than pricey Lactaid and the other kid is getting Simply Nature Organic rather than pricey Horizon Organic. Sure, you could insist that both kids just drink regular milk, but why?
So you want to pay teachers less? Terrible.
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Anonymous wrote:The key to understanding this situation is to read The Marxification of Education by James Lindsay, or listen to it on audible. The confusion about the principal and the vague double language she is uses surrounding equity, change etc. are explained. After the reading the book you will be able to understand the principal, what she is trying to do, and to some extent anticipate her. You will also understand why the best teachers are leaving.


Well, I mean, if you want to read the perspective of someone who completely rejects the idea that systemic racism exists/existed in the past, and has repercussions that are still felt today then, sure, read some James Lindsay. But it's unlikely to give you any insight to the LES principal's perspective or serve much of a purpose.



All children of all races should be treated equally. If the Principal can't do this and is so obsessed with race, she probably shouldn't be teaching kids?

Yes, all children of all races should be treated equally. Sounds great. Life isn't always so simple. Some kids are born into systemic poverty with roots going back to slavery. Some are immigrants with parents working 3+ minimum wage jobs to stay afloat. Some kids are born to wealthy parents, with one stay-at-home. Do you take those differences in background into account when you're treating all children of all races equally?


So are you suggesting those kids should be treated better than others based on this?


Differently doesn’t mean better. It means each child getting what they need to survive. Some children may need more supports. Or they may need alternatives that other kids don’t need. If I have a vegetarian child and another who is an omnivore teenage athlete, I can’t give both a chicken breast for their dinner entree and think I’ve met their needs.
Sure. But in MCPS's case it all comes down to money. And MCPS is spending millions more per year in schools in poor neighborhoods compared with wealthier ones. That means they are spending millions LESS is schools in wealthier neighborhoods. So in your example, you'd give your athlete 2/3 the food he needs so you can feed your other child something different.


What your comment ignores is that MCPS RECEIVES millions of dollars in state and federal funding based on the populations of FARMS, special ed and English language learners. If those children don't attend MCPS, MCPS doesn't get that money. What you want them to do is to use that money for rich kids. Because you are a selfish POS. Well, they do, to a certain extent. But not all of it, in part because the federal funding is restricted.
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Anonymous wrote:The key to understanding this situation is to read The Marxification of Education by James Lindsay, or listen to it on audible. The confusion about the principal and the vague double language she is uses surrounding equity, change etc. are explained. After the reading the book you will be able to understand the principal, what she is trying to do, and to some extent anticipate her. You will also understand why the best teachers are leaving.


Well, I mean, if you want to read the perspective of someone who completely rejects the idea that systemic racism exists/existed in the past, and has repercussions that are still felt today then, sure, read some James Lindsay. But it's unlikely to give you any insight to the LES principal's perspective or serve much of a purpose.



All children of all races should be treated equally. If the Principal can't do this and is so obsessed with race, she probably shouldn't be teaching kids?

Yes, all children of all races should be treated equally. Sounds great. Life isn't always so simple. Some kids are born into systemic poverty with roots going back to slavery. Some are immigrants with parents working 3+ minimum wage jobs to stay afloat. Some kids are born to wealthy parents, with one stay-at-home. Do you take those differences in background into account when you're treating all children of all races equally?


So are you suggesting those kids should be treated better than others based on this?


Differently doesn’t mean better. It means each child getting what they need to survive. Some children may need more supports. Or they may need alternatives that other kids don’t need. If I have a vegetarian child and another who is an omnivore teenage athlete, I can’t give both a chicken breast for their dinner entree and think I’ve met their needs.
Sure. But in MCPS's case it all comes down to money. And MCPS is spending millions more per year in schools in poor neighborhoods compared with wealthier ones. That means they are spending millions LESS is schools in wealthier neighborhoods. So in your example, you'd give your athlete 2/3 the food he needs so you can feed your other child something different.


What your comment ignores is that MCPS RECEIVES millions of dollars in state and federal funding based on the populations of FARMS, special ed and English language learners. If those children don't attend MCPS, MCPS doesn't get that money. What you want them to do is to use that money for rich kids. Because you are a selfish POS. Well, they do, to a certain extent. But not all of it, in part because the federal funding is restricted.
You mean "Reeeeeeeeee!" Lol. While you are correct that MCPS receives a lot of state and federal $, the millions I mentioned didn't include that, at least not according to the OLO report a few years ago. So, yes, MCPS is short-changing schools in wealthier neighborhoods because of equity which is simply progressive code for "discrimination we like."
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Anonymous wrote:The key to understanding this situation is to read The Marxification of Education by James Lindsay, or listen to it on audible. The confusion about the principal and the vague double language she is uses surrounding equity, change etc. are explained. After the reading the book you will be able to understand the principal, what she is trying to do, and to some extent anticipate her. You will also understand why the best teachers are leaving.


Well, I mean, if you want to read the perspective of someone who completely rejects the idea that systemic racism exists/existed in the past, and has repercussions that are still felt today then, sure, read some James Lindsay. But it's unlikely to give you any insight to the LES principal's perspective or serve much of a purpose.



All children of all races should be treated equally. If the Principal can't do this and is so obsessed with race, she probably shouldn't be teaching kids?

Yes, all children of all races should be treated equally. Sounds great. Life isn't always so simple. Some kids are born into systemic poverty with roots going back to slavery. Some are immigrants with parents working 3+ minimum wage jobs to stay afloat. Some kids are born to wealthy parents, with one stay-at-home. Do you take those differences in background into account when you're treating all children of all races equally?


So are you suggesting those kids should be treated better than others based on this?


Differently doesn’t mean better. It means each child getting what they need to survive. Some children may need more supports. Or they may need alternatives that other kids don’t need. If I have a vegetarian child and another who is an omnivore teenage athlete, I can’t give both a chicken breast for their dinner entree and think I’ve met their needs.
Sure. But in MCPS's case it all comes down to money. And MCPS is spending millions more per year in schools in poor neighborhoods compared with wealthier ones. That means they are spending millions LESS is schools in wealthier neighborhoods. So in your example, you'd give your athlete 2/3 the food he needs so you can feed your other child something different.


What your comment ignores is that MCPS RECEIVES millions of dollars in state and federal funding based on the populations of FARMS, special ed and English language learners. If those children don't attend MCPS, MCPS doesn't get that money. What you want them to do is to use that money for rich kids. Because you are a selfish POS. Well, they do, to a certain extent. But not all of it, in part because the federal funding is restricted.
You mean "Reeeeeeeeee!" Lol. While you are correct that MCPS receives a lot of state and federal $, the millions I mentioned didn't include that, at least not according to the OLO report a few years ago. So, yes, MCPS is short-changing schools in wealthier neighborhoods because of equity which is simply progressive code for "discrimination we like."


Actually that report confirms exactly what I said above, and you are misrepresenting it.
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"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.
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Anonymous wrote:The key to understanding this situation is to read The Marxification of Education by James Lindsay, or listen to it on audible. The confusion about the principal and the vague double language she is uses surrounding equity, change etc. are explained. After the reading the book you will be able to understand the principal, what she is trying to do, and to some extent anticipate her. You will also understand why the best teachers are leaving.


Well, I mean, if you want to read the perspective of someone who completely rejects the idea that systemic racism exists/existed in the past, and has repercussions that are still felt today then, sure, read some James Lindsay. But it's unlikely to give you any insight to the LES principal's perspective or serve much of a purpose.



All children of all races should be treated equally. If the Principal can't do this and is so obsessed with race, she probably shouldn't be teaching kids?

Yes, all children of all races should be treated equally. Sounds great. Life isn't always so simple. Some kids are born into systemic poverty with roots going back to slavery. Some are immigrants with parents working 3+ minimum wage jobs to stay afloat. Some kids are born to wealthy parents, with one stay-at-home. Do you take those differences in background into account when you're treating all children of all races equally?


So are you suggesting those kids should be treated better than others based on this?


Differently doesn’t mean better. It means each child getting what they need to survive. Some children may need more supports. Or they may need alternatives that other kids don’t need. If I have a vegetarian child and another who is an omnivore teenage athlete, I can’t give both a chicken breast for their dinner entree and think I’ve met their needs.
Sure. But in MCPS's case it all comes down to money. And MCPS is spending millions more per year in schools in poor neighborhoods compared with wealthier ones. That means they are spending millions LESS is schools in wealthier neighborhoods. So in your example, you'd give your athlete 2/3 the food he needs so you can feed your other child something different.


What your comment ignores is that MCPS RECEIVES millions of dollars in state and federal funding based on the populations of FARMS, special ed and English language learners. If those children don't attend MCPS, MCPS doesn't get that money. What you want them to do is to use that money for rich kids. Because you are a selfish POS. Well, they do, to a certain extent. But not all of it, in part because the federal funding is restricted.


+100 Back when the side-by-side report came out, it became clear that MCPS funding was pretty equal among schools and that some so-called "W Schools" were getting a large share of the MCPS pie. The higher per-pupil spending for high-needs schools is money coming in from the State of Maryland and from the Department of Education and comes with restrictions on how it can be spent.

To the other PPs point, it is correct that the vast majority of the federal funds are being spent on kids with special needs. The most "expensive" pupils in MCPS attend Stephen Knolls in Kensington, and the federal contribution alone is $18K per year on top of $80K per year in local and state funds.
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Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.
Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.
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Anonymous wrote:The key to understanding this situation is to read The Marxification of Education by James Lindsay, or listen to it on audible. The confusion about the principal and the vague double language she is uses surrounding equity, change etc. are explained. After the reading the book you will be able to understand the principal, what she is trying to do, and to some extent anticipate her. You will also understand why the best teachers are leaving.


Well, I mean, if you want to read the perspective of someone who completely rejects the idea that systemic racism exists/existed in the past, and has repercussions that are still felt today then, sure, read some James Lindsay. But it's unlikely to give you any insight to the LES principal's perspective or serve much of a purpose.



All children of all races should be treated equally. If the Principal can't do this and is so obsessed with race, she probably shouldn't be teaching kids?

Yes, all children of all races should be treated equally. Sounds great. Life isn't always so simple. Some kids are born into systemic poverty with roots going back to slavery. Some are immigrants with parents working 3+ minimum wage jobs to stay afloat. Some kids are born to wealthy parents, with one stay-at-home. Do you take those differences in background into account when you're treating all children of all races equally?


So are you suggesting those kids should be treated better than others based on this?


Differently doesn’t mean better. It means each child getting what they need to survive. Some children may need more supports. Or they may need alternatives that other kids don’t need. If I have a vegetarian child and another who is an omnivore teenage athlete, I can’t give both a chicken breast for their dinner entree and think I’ve met their needs.
Sure. But in MCPS's case it all comes down to money. And MCPS is spending millions more per year in schools in poor neighborhoods compared with wealthier ones. That means they are spending millions LESS is schools in wealthier neighborhoods. So in your example, you'd give your athlete 2/3 the food he needs so you can feed your other child something different.


What your comment ignores is that MCPS RECEIVES millions of dollars in state and federal funding based on the populations of FARMS, special ed and English language learners. If those children don't attend MCPS, MCPS doesn't get that money. What you want them to do is to use that money for rich kids. Because you are a selfish POS. Well, they do, to a certain extent. But not all of it, in part because the federal funding is restricted.


+100 Back when the side-by-side report came out, it became clear that MCPS funding was pretty equal among schools and that some so-called "W Schools" were getting a large share of the MCPS pie. The higher per-pupil spending for high-needs schools is money coming in from the State of Maryland and from the Department of Education and comes with restrictions on how it can be spent.

To the other PPs point, it is correct that the vast majority of the federal funds are being spent on kids with special needs. The most "expensive" pupils in MCPS attend Stephen Knolls in Kensington, and the federal contribution alone is $18K per year on top of $80K per year in local and state funds.
Man, you pro-busers sure do have a hatred for Kensington.
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Anonymous wrote:The key to understanding this situation is to read The Marxification of Education by James Lindsay, or listen to it on audible. The confusion about the principal and the vague double language she is uses surrounding equity, change etc. are explained. After the reading the book you will be able to understand the principal, what she is trying to do, and to some extent anticipate her. You will also understand why the best teachers are leaving.


Well, I mean, if you want to read the perspective of someone who completely rejects the idea that systemic racism exists/existed in the past, and has repercussions that are still felt today then, sure, read some James Lindsay. But it's unlikely to give you any insight to the LES principal's perspective or serve much of a purpose.



All children of all races should be treated equally. If the Principal can't do this and is so obsessed with race, she probably shouldn't be teaching kids?

Yes, all children of all races should be treated equally. Sounds great. Life isn't always so simple. Some kids are born into systemic poverty with roots going back to slavery. Some are immigrants with parents working 3+ minimum wage jobs to stay afloat. Some kids are born to wealthy parents, with one stay-at-home. Do you take those differences in background into account when you're treating all children of all races equally?


So are you suggesting those kids should be treated better than others based on this?


Differently doesn’t mean better. It means each child getting what they need to survive. Some children may need more supports. Or they may need alternatives that other kids don’t need. If I have a vegetarian child and another who is an omnivore teenage athlete, I can’t give both a chicken breast for their dinner entree and think I’ve met their needs.
Sure. But in MCPS's case it all comes down to money. And MCPS is spending millions more per year in schools in poor neighborhoods compared with wealthier ones. That means they are spending millions LESS is schools in wealthier neighborhoods. So in your example, you'd give your athlete 2/3 the food he needs so you can feed your other child something different.


What your comment ignores is that MCPS RECEIVES millions of dollars in state and federal funding based on the populations of FARMS, special ed and English language learners. If those children don't attend MCPS, MCPS doesn't get that money. What you want them to do is to use that money for rich kids. Because you are a selfish POS. Well, they do, to a certain extent. But not all of it, in part because the federal funding is restricted.


+100 Back when the side-by-side report came out, it became clear that MCPS funding was pretty equal among schools and that some so-called "W Schools" were getting a large share of the MCPS pie. The higher per-pupil spending for high-needs schools is money coming in from the State of Maryland and from the Department of Education and comes with restrictions on how it can be spent.

To the other PPs point, it is correct that the vast majority of the federal funds are being spent on kids with special needs. The most "expensive" pupils in MCPS attend Stephen Knolls in Kensington, and the federal contribution alone is $18K per year on top of $80K per year in local and state funds.
Man, you pro-busers sure do have a hatred for Kensington.


Lol wrong part of Kensington though. The neighborhood around Stephen Knolls is zoned for Einstein.
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Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.
Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.


Again, they spend more money in high FARMS schools because they RECEIVE money based on the number of FARMS students, some of which they are actually required to spend on FARMS students.
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Anonymous wrote:The key to understanding this situation is to read The Marxification of Education by James Lindsay, or listen to it on audible. The confusion about the principal and the vague double language she is uses surrounding equity, change etc. are explained. After the reading the book you will be able to understand the principal, what she is trying to do, and to some extent anticipate her. You will also understand why the best teachers are leaving.


Well, I mean, if you want to read the perspective of someone who completely rejects the idea that systemic racism exists/existed in the past, and has repercussions that are still felt today then, sure, read some James Lindsay. But it's unlikely to give you any insight to the LES principal's perspective or serve much of a purpose.



All children of all races should be treated equally. If the Principal can't do this and is so obsessed with race, she probably shouldn't be teaching kids?

Yes, all children of all races should be treated equally. Sounds great. Life isn't always so simple. Some kids are born into systemic poverty with roots going back to slavery. Some are immigrants with parents working 3+ minimum wage jobs to stay afloat. Some kids are born to wealthy parents, with one stay-at-home. Do you take those differences in background into account when you're treating all children of all races equally?


So are you suggesting those kids should be treated better than others based on this?


Differently doesn’t mean better. It means each child getting what they need to survive. Some children may need more supports. Or they may need alternatives that other kids don’t need. If I have a vegetarian child and another who is an omnivore teenage athlete, I can’t give both a chicken breast for their dinner entree and think I’ve met their needs.
Sure. But in MCPS's case it all comes down to money. And MCPS is spending millions more per year in schools in poor neighborhoods compared with wealthier ones. That means they are spending millions LESS is schools in wealthier neighborhoods. So in your example, you'd give your athlete 2/3 the food he needs so you can feed your other child something different.


What your comment ignores is that MCPS RECEIVES millions of dollars in state and federal funding based on the populations of FARMS, special ed and English language learners. If those children don't attend MCPS, MCPS doesn't get that money. What you want them to do is to use that money for rich kids. Because you are a selfish POS. Well, they do, to a certain extent. But not all of it, in part because the federal funding is restricted.


+100 Back when the side-by-side report came out, it became clear that MCPS funding was pretty equal among schools and that some so-called "W Schools" were getting a large share of the MCPS pie. The higher per-pupil spending for high-needs schools is money coming in from the State of Maryland and from the Department of Education and comes with restrictions on how it can be spent.

To the other PPs point, it is correct that the vast majority of the federal funds are being spent on kids with special needs. The most "expensive" pupils in MCPS attend Stephen Knolls in Kensington, and the federal contribution alone is $18K per year on top of $80K per year in local and state funds.
Man, you pro-busers sure do have a hatred for Kensington.


Lol wrong part of Kensington though. The neighborhood around Stephen Knolls is zoned for Einstein.


This is a weird side thread, since I'm pretty sure that kids at that school are pulled from all over the county.
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Anonymous wrote:"In FY19, MCPS received $171 million in federal and state revenue for compensatory education compared to receiving $98 million for special education and $77 million for ESOL programs. Yet, MCPS budgeted $454 million for special education compared to $80 million for ESOL programs and $124 million for compensatory education programs. "
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2019%20Reports/OLOReport2019-14.pdf
The "millions" are not going to FARMS students. They are going to special ed students.
Ah, my mistake. It was the letter from the BOE to the county council (re: the ridiculous claims in the OLO report) in which they stated that MCPS spends $4000 more per student per year in high needs schools. So even the BOE acknowledged that they are short-changing the W schools.


Again, they spend more money in high FARMS schools because they RECEIVE money based on the number of FARMS students, some of which they are actually required to spend on FARMS students.
And W schools receive less money which means they are being short-changed just as I said. It's insult to injury because most of the money comes from W school neighborhoods even if we're talking about state money. It's not like it's coming from Baltimore or the MD panhandle.
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