Where are all the Ivy admits coming from you wonder? Dalton NYC 2023 Matriculations

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think it's kind of interesting to see that there are quite a few Indian and Asian surnames are in the Dalton group. That suggests that these are not WASP types with old money. So the parents of these Dalton kids were able to break into the upper echelons somehow, probably through sheer hard work, determination, and intelligence.

it's clear you don't know what you're talking about.

This subset of asian immigrants you're talking about who migrate to the northeast are WEALTHY AF.

This myth of the immigrant coming here with $6 is so outdated and archaic.

Right?! I look at where Christie's is advertising their sales and it's always singapore and HK. I went to college with guy from HK and he bought his wife a 1+ million emerald ring and it was not her engagement, just cocktail. We're not very old.

Asian American from NYC here. I grew up with the rich Asians in NY and went to college and grad school with them.

I find the Asians in the DMV are not the rich Asian types from Asia. DH and I both come from humble beginnings but now have a seven figure HHI. We live a very UMC lifestyle, nothing like the rich Asians we knew in college.

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The only surprise is that people are surprised. I went to HYP back in the day. (I came from a lower performing public high school. I was the only one from my HS there.)

In contrast, the class was very heavily represented by kids from the most prestigious private schools, both day schools and boarding schools.There were multiple kids from each feeder school, so they all knew each other going in (I knew no one). The wealth was like nothing I have seen before or since. Bold names that you would all recognize. Families with generations of wealth and connections.

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Anonymous wrote:The only surprise is that people are surprised. I went to HYP back in the day. (I came from a lower performing public high school. I was the only one from my HS there.)

In contrast, the class was very heavily represented by kids from the most prestigious private schools, both day schools and boarding schools.There were multiple kids from each feeder school, so they all knew each other going in (I knew no one). The wealth was like nothing I have seen before or since. Bold names that you would all recognize. Families with generations of wealth and connections.

Oh and a ton of representation from NYC area including outer burbs, NJ, Long Island.

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Anonymous wrote:Ivies want to appear that they are open to all.
40% of the spots go to Athlete, Legacies, Donors, Administration (Faculty), VIPs

Accepting a fencer is just another way of identifying and accepting privilege. Fencing is a sport that is only offered / available to those with means.

The Supreme Court decision is very interesting - as will donors be apple to continue to buy their kids a spot?

Fencer parent here. Tired of this misimpression. Becoming nationally ranked takes money, but that is also true of a whole lot of sports. Very few colleges have fencing and there are very few spots. With hundreds of kids competing at JO’s per event I assure you this is not a great way to get into college.

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With hundreds of kids competing at JO’s per event I assure you this is not a great way to get into college.

Compare this against tens if not hundreds of thousands of students playing a more common sport like football or basketball. The competition is literally multiple orders of magnitude worse if you’re trying to use them as a backdoor to ivies.

To be a recruited athlete for football, basketball, or track you need to be an incredibly talented superhuman who won the genetic lottery. For fencing, squash, or rowing you need to be wealthy and somewhat(but not necessarily extremely) athletically gifted.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.instagram.com/daltonseniors23/

Clearly Dalton is an Ivy feeder. DMV privates may be having a tough year with matriculations to top 20 schools/Ivies, but NYC prep schools seem to be doing just fine and claiming a good percentage of the spots. I thought the Ivies and top 20s were trying to diversify were their admits come from? Instead it looks like NYC prep schools get the most. It's an embarrassment of riches, when looking at this list. No school in the DMV this year can compare. 🙄

Ha check out central high school in philadephia. looks like half of the class gets into upenn.

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Anonymous wrote:Randomly googled one of the Dalton kids’ unique first & last name. One of the first results was the announcement by the same top school that child is committed to of a building donation.

I'm sure they run in circles where everyone's used to mommy and daddy donating $$ to get their kids some advantage, but in the real world, I would find it embarrassing that the only reason you got into some elite school was because your parents literally bought your way in.

IMO, unhooked kids getting into elite schools is impressive. These rich kids getting in.. not so much.

I'm sure they'll feel really sad while flying on daddy's jet to spend the weekend in Deer Vally

sure, and many never go out into the real world, like the Trump family kids, but these kids aren't impressive.

Interestingly, UK (a country with a royal family) colleges don't care who your family is but the US (meritocracy but only for the masses) colleges still do.

20 of 55 Prime Ministers in the UK went to one school - Eton. Granted, it's a high school, but still. The UK is not a meritocracy when it comes to education.

UK is a lot more class conscious than US.

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Anonymous wrote:not sure exactly where the kids of Katie Holmes, Sarah Jessica Parker, Emily Blunt, Drew Barrymore, Tina Fey go.

LOL. Actresses are not the wealthiest and most influential people in NYC. They are also not the most educated. Sarah Jessica Parker and Drew Barrymore did not go to college. NYC has over 100 billionaires, including Michael Bloomberg (who has donated heavily to his alma mater Johns Hopkins).

Either way, NYC takes wealth to a new level over most of the elite DCUM private day schools. These are the people paying $100K for SAT test prep and another $100K for a college counselor starting in 8th grade. There are plenty of $50-60K+ day schools in NYC area and majority of those kids goal is elite universities, with many getting in. Hard not to have the right resume when you started preschool on 3rd base (at a $50K/year preschool) and all the help/assistance possibly needed during the next 15+ years.

Nobody anywhere is paying 100k for test prep.

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What’s the point of this?

Yes, private schools get a disproportionate number of their kids in each class into top 20 schools. Who is surprised???

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With hundreds of kids competing at JO’s per event I assure you this is not a great way to get into college.

Compare this against tens if not hundreds of thousands of students playing a more common sport like football or basketball. The competition is literally multiple orders of magnitude worse if you’re trying to use them as a backdoor to ivies.

To be a recruited athlete for football, basketball, or track you need to be an incredibly talented superhuman who won the genetic lottery. For fencing, squash, or rowing you need to be wealthy and somewhat(but not necessarily extremely) athletically gifted.

JOs require qualification. Most clubs don’t have coaches who can get kids even qualified. I am not saying it’s as competitive as basketball. That is not the point. I am saying the odds are probably worse than the 3-5% of applicants to super selective schools (in which case taking up the sport to get into college doesn’t make sense).

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Anonymous wrote:The parent population at top NYC privates is in an entirely different league than DC’s.

I’m not sure exactly where the kids of Katie Holmes, Sarah Jessica Parker, Emily Blunt (if they’re back in NYC now), Drew Barrymore, Tina Fey etc go to school in NYC, but presumably top NYC privates. And I bet they’re far from the wealthiest parents of kids at those schools when you take into account NYC finance parents. Unlike DC privates that have a lot of civil servants making $180k/year.

Right, of course. But what about the Ivies and top schools taking all these kids? They claim to be interested in expanding their reach and diversifying, but this list proves that's all talk. They really want wealthy NYC elite.

Harvard's donations are way down this year, several big donations pulled, and last week H resorted to a bond offering. They need to get high wealth donors back.

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With hundreds of kids competing at JO’s per event I assure you this is not a great way to get into college.

Compare this against tens if not hundreds of thousands of students playing a more common sport like football or basketball. The competition is literally multiple orders of magnitude worse if you’re trying to use them as a backdoor to ivies.

To be a recruited athlete for football, basketball, or track you need to be an incredibly talented superhuman who won the genetic lottery. For fencing, squash, or rowing you need to be wealthy and somewhat(but not necessarily extremely) athletically gifted.

JOs require qualification. Most clubs don’t have coaches who can get kids even qualified. I am not saying it’s as competitive as basketball. That is not the point. I am saying the odds are probably worse than the 3-5% of applicants to super selective schools (in which case taking up the sport to get into college doesn’t make sense).

Given you didn’t know it’s challenging to qualify for JO’s I also would guess you do not know that American fencers are starting to medal in international tournaments where they are competing in countries where the sport is taken much more seriously, thus attracting naturally talented athletes. It is unfair to criticize athletes in a sport you do not seem to know a lot about.

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Anonymous wrote:Love the baby/kid photos. At least one is a tip-off that the kid is a legacy.

+1. this. OP forgets that most of the parents there are highly educated and wealthy. Many of these kids are legacies AND the parents have given significant amounts to their alma maters.

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Does anyone have a link for Spence?

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This whole discussion is full of anger & envy & makes me want to take a hot shower & enroll at Kansas State.