Actress Anne Heche severely burned in fiery car crash

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For those confused about what she did before her final crash, ET has a good timeline. She crashed THREE times that day. And there is video of her narrowly missing several pedestrians.
There are clear facts of what she did that day.

https://www.etonline.com/anne-heche-in-a-coma-a-timeline-of-her-fiery-car-crash-188785

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The Daily Mail is now reporting she has passed.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11106819/Anne-Heche-dies-pulled-life-support.html

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Anonymous wrote:I’m very frustrated that so many folks are vilifying her on what appears to be incomplete information. It was first reported that she was drunk and yet the toxicology shows she had no alcohol in her system. Now it’s being reported she was high on cocaine, but the reports are that she had fentanyl and other narcotics on board - all of which could have been administered by first responders in the ambulance or as she entered the hospital - the pain from burns is the most extreme known to man so fentanyl would be the go to pain relief of choice for a burn victim coming in from a fire accident scene. They were not able to take blood immediately because of the hypervolemia and hypoperfusion that takes place in the human body following severe burns. As a former prosecutor I can attest that it is highly unlikely that a detailed breakdown of the toxicology is available less than a week following her accident, and likely when official results are available it will be indeterminate whether she had any substances on board while driving - but her reputation has already been destroyed by irresponsible reporting that cites not one single named source for the declarations being made about her status at the time of the crash.

Clearly something was going on, but Anne has struggled with serious mental illness for almost all her adult life - a normal consequence of having been raped by her father in infancy and contracting herpes as an infant as a result and having a heartless monster of a mother who never believed her and never supported her in any way in her coping with that early childhood trauma. Anne never had the choice to be a healthy person, just like millions of abused children who struggle all their lives to grapple with ptsd from childhood. She tried hard and worked hard and sometimes failed, but she is not deserving of the vilification of the holier than thous here and elsewhere on social media who are speaking of her as though she’s garbage. Hope the karma bus runs all of you over, then backs up and runs over you again.

Yes she is. She was reckless with the lives of others. She is deserving of that.

+1 the PP “prosecutor” can GFH. Any sympathy for Anne’s issues ends with her reckless behavior that day.

It is possible to show compassion for both the addict and for the people harmed by the addict's behavior. These things are not mutually exclusive.

Sorry, no sympathy for addicts who show wonton disregard for others.

Addicts aren't typically make sound decisions about how their behavior impacts others or themselves...they're addicts. They're not in control-the addiction is in control. It's a disease. Haven't you ever watched Intervention? Maybe open your eyes a little to what this disease does to someone.

Ahhh there it is, you’ll give a free pass if someone has an addiction. Thankfully you don’t set the laws in this country.

DP. No one is saying that there shouldn’t be laws in place that would apply in this case. Properly constructed laws (setting aside for now whether we have appropriate laws) can have an significant role in addressing addiction issues and the damage they can cause. But you can have laws in place and agree they should be enforced while also having compassion for the person who violated them.

In very simplicities form, it’s like the cliched ethical example of the person who steals bread to feed their starving family. We can agree there should be consequences for the theft while also having compassion for the person so desperate to save their family from starvation that they think stealing a loaf of bread is their only option for doing so in the moment.

No, what Anne did is nothing like the example you provided. In your example, the person being stolen from isn’t at risk of physical harm from the thief.

Oh really? What is, in chasing the their, the bakery owner tripped on the door sill, fell out onto the pavement and suffered a brain injury? The thief may not have intended it to occur, but it only would have occurred because of the theft.

Nope. Still not applicable. In Anne’s case she was speeding, weaving, and crashed once before her final crash. So again, not an accurate comparison.

Why? Because you have pronounced it to be so with no substantive rationale, to avoid any need to reconsider your own views?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m very frustrated that so many folks are vilifying her on what appears to be incomplete information. It was first reported that she was drunk and yet the toxicology shows she had no alcohol in her system. Now it’s being reported she was high on cocaine, but the reports are that she had fentanyl and other narcotics on board - all of which could have been administered by first responders in the ambulance or as she entered the hospital - the pain from burns is the most extreme known to man so fentanyl would be the go to pain relief of choice for a burn victim coming in from a fire accident scene. They were not able to take blood immediately because of the hypervolemia and hypoperfusion that takes place in the human body following severe burns. As a former prosecutor I can attest that it is highly unlikely that a detailed breakdown of the toxicology is available less than a week following her accident, and likely when official results are available it will be indeterminate whether she had any substances on board while driving - but her reputation has already been destroyed by irresponsible reporting that cites not one single named source for the declarations being made about her status at the time of the crash.

Clearly something was going on, but Anne has struggled with serious mental illness for almost all her adult life - a normal consequence of having been raped by her father in infancy and contracting herpes as an infant as a result and having a heartless monster of a mother who never believed her and never supported her in any way in her coping with that early childhood trauma. Anne never had the choice to be a healthy person, just like millions of abused children who struggle all their lives to grapple with ptsd from childhood. She tried hard and worked hard and sometimes failed, but she is not deserving of the vilification of the holier than thous here and elsewhere on social media who are speaking of her as though she’s garbage. Hope the karma bus runs all of you over, then backs up and runs over you again.

Yes she is. She was reckless with the lives of others. She is deserving of that.

+1 the PP “prosecutor” can GFH. Any sympathy for Anne’s issues ends with her reckless behavior that day.

It is possible to show compassion for both the addict and for the people harmed by the addict's behavior. These things are not mutually exclusive.

Sorry, no sympathy for addicts who show wonton disregard for others.

Addicts aren't typically make sound decisions about how their behavior impacts others or themselves...they're addicts. They're not in control-the addiction is in control. It's a disease. Haven't you ever watched Intervention? Maybe open your eyes a little to what this disease does to someone.

Ahhh there it is, you’ll give a free pass if someone has an addiction. Thankfully you don’t set the laws in this country.

DP. No one is saying that there shouldn’t be laws in place that would apply in this case. Properly constructed laws (setting aside for now whether we have appropriate laws) can have an significant role in addressing addiction issues and the damage they can cause. But you can have laws in place and agree they should be enforced while also having compassion for the person who violated them.

In very simplicities form, it’s like the cliched ethical example of the person who steals bread to feed their starving family. We can agree there should be consequences for the theft while also having compassion for the person so desperate to save their family from starvation that they think stealing a loaf of bread is their only option for doing so in the moment.

No, what Anne did is nothing like the example you provided. In your example, the person being stolen from isn’t at risk of physical harm from the thief.

Oh really? What is, in chasing the their, the bakery owner tripped on the door sill, fell out onto the pavement and suffered a brain injury? The thief may not have intended it to occur, but it only would have occurred because of the theft.

Nope. Still not applicable. In Anne’s case she was speeding, weaving, and crashed once before her final crash. So again, not an accurate comparison.

Why? Because you have pronounced it to be so with no substantive rationale, to avoid any need to reconsider your own views?

Because you provided a clearly inaccurate comparison. I’m sorry you don’t understand.

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Anonymous wrote:The Daily Mail is now reporting she has passed.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11106819/Anne-Heche-dies-pulled-life-support.html

Very sad!

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This whole story is awful. RIP Anne... a sad end to a troubled life. Condolences to her family and hoping the woman whose house she crashed into gets back on her feet soon.

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It's always startling to me how "average" (just like the rest of 'merica) "stars" look without makeup, jewels, hairdos, etc.

The picture of her in the car with the pink shirt is so different than I picture her. We typically see the famous people in their glamour versions. But, when all that is removed.... they look JUST LIKE US. Kind of takes the sheen off the whole "stars are so much better/prettier than us" glow.

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Anonymous wrote:That’s very sad. Her life shouldn’t have ended this way.

If she didn't want her life to end like this than she should have follow treatment.

If it was that easy, there wouldn't be so many addicts.
No one wants to live this way. It's a wretched life.
I read online forums for addicts, and so many of them live in total despair that they can't stop using, no matter how much treatment they get.
And then they wreck havoc on everyone else's lives too, particularly their loved ones.

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Well the good news is the woman whose house was half destroyed survived unscathed, as did her two rescue dogs and her turtle. Most of her possessions were destroyed though.

Her landlord however, is having to raise funds to fix the house and make it habitable again.

What a shameful end.

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Anonymous wrote:Well the good news is the woman whose house was half destroyed survived unscathed, as did her two rescue dogs and her turtle. Most of her possessions were destroyed though.

Her landlord however, is having to raise funds to fix the house and make it habitable again.

What a shameful end.

I’m sure the owner/landlord had insurance. Please do not donate to any fund that asks you for money for the landlord!

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I read she just died. So sad for her kids.

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Will heche estate be able to compensate the destroyed house? I hope they take her money

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Anonymous wrote:It's always startling to me how "average" (just like the rest of 'merica) "stars" look without makeup, jewels, hairdos, etc.

The picture of her in the car with the pink shirt is so different than I picture her. We typically see the famous people in their glamour versions. But, when all that is removed.... they look JUST LIKE US. Kind of takes the sheen off the whole "stars are so much better/prettier than us" glow.

Not in any way related to Anne Heche, but I saw a tv actress from Lost (the petite blonde Australian woman, forget her name) at an airport once. Minimal make-up, dressed down, and completely, luminously gorgeous. Of course, she was at most 30, so I'm sure age had a little bit to do with it.

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Anonymous wrote:Will heche estate be able to compensate the destroyed house? I hope they take her money

I’m sure both the home owner and tenant could sue/reach a settlement. Anne was clearly at fault. And all parties undoubtedly had insurance.

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Anonymous wrote:Well the good news is the woman whose house was half destroyed survived unscathed, as did her two rescue dogs and her turtle. Most of her possessions were destroyed though.

Her landlord however, is having to raise funds to fix the house and make it habitable again.

What a shameful end.

Apparently the occupant had some injury because it was raised it to a felony DUI.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2022-08-11/anne-heche-cocaine-narcotics-mar-vista-car-crash?_amp=true