Elrich Now in the Lead

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Anonymous wrote:If people in the county only knew what he is spending money on that he shouldn’t be. I know.

Uh ok. I'll take the bait. What is he spending money on that the rest of us aren't aware of?

Just ask anyone on the police force about unnecessarily monumental waste of funds that could and should be stopped easily.

Some people know and are trying. The public knows about it but not to the extent.

You guys missed your chance to educate the public before they voted. Too late now. You would have only had to covert a few dozen votes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They corrected the early voting results and David Blair gained one vote.

I don’t think Blair will pull this one off.

true, but progressives should take note of the teeny tiny margin that Elrich won by.

There are multiple ways to read this.

Elrich is progressive and anti development
Riemer is progressive and pro-development
Blair is moderate and pro-development (but not as much of a hardcore YIMBY as Riemer)

You could say that 60% were agains Elrich, or somewhat more in favor of development, but you could also say 60% wanted a progressive over a moderate.

MoCo leans progressive, and the majority of them live in TP/SS area where Elrich won most of the votes. Go west of 270 and north of ICC, and you will see a lot more Blair support.

https://twitter.com/jameslnpol/status/1559989668350935049?s=21&t=dBZR09w22Bkxmz3DmirqoA

Here’s a precinct map. Blair indeed won most of 355/270, especially west Bethesda and Potomac. Definitely all the mansion communities along River Road.

Elrich won TP/SS as expected, but also a lot of East County, Aspen Hill, some of Germantown, some of Rockville, and the whole Ag reserve.
Also, despite assumptions that Elrich supporters are mostly old people, Blair won Leisure World.

Thanks for deleting my comment. I will just post it again.

I am sorry that you have a poor handle on the geography of Montgomery County but the claim that Elrich won “the whole Ag reserve” is indisputably false based on the very link you provided. The fact that you think the Ag Reserve is only west of 270 indicates that you don’t know much about Montgomery County.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If people in the county only knew what he is spending money on that he shouldn’t be. I know.

Uh ok. I'll take the bait. What is he spending money on that the rest of us aren't aware of?

Just ask anyone on the police force about unnecessarily monumental waste of funds that could and should be stopped easily.

Some people know and are trying. The public knows about it but not to the extent.

You guys missed your chance to educate the public before they voted. Too late now. You would have only had to covert a few dozen votes.

Nope, did try.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whats the latest on the ballots that were refused bc of their post date? I saw on twitter that people were saying they were submitted on time, but postmarked late by the USPS?

I always vote in person; I appreciate the ritual of it. But that does now also seem like the best way to make sure your vote gets counted

Legally they cannot be counted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whats the latest on the ballots that were refused bc of their post date? I saw on twitter that people were saying they were submitted on time, but postmarked late by the USPS?

I always vote in person; I appreciate the ritual of it. But that does now also seem like the best way to make sure your vote gets counted

Legally they cannot be counted.

Is the only way that would happen is if they dropped it off at the post office after 5 or was collected the next day from their home mailbox?

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Anonymous wrote:They corrected the early voting results and David Blair gained one vote.

I don’t think Blair will pull this one off.

true, but progressives should take note of the teeny tiny margin that Elrich won by.

There are multiple ways to read this.

Elrich is progressive and anti development
Riemer is progressive and pro-development
Blair is moderate and pro-development (but not as much of a hardcore YIMBY as Riemer)

You could say that 60% were agains Elrich, or somewhat more in favor of development, but you could also say 60% wanted a progressive over a moderate.

MoCo leans progressive, and the majority of them live in TP/SS area where Elrich won most of the votes. Go west of 270 and north of ICC, and you will see a lot more Blair support.

Blair won 4 of the 7 Council districts. But Districts 4 and 6 were strongly for Elrich. Most of the county, geographically, wants Blair. But I guess they didn't want him enough, or they would have turned out the vote better.

I don't love Elrich, but can't get past the fact that Big Development, Inc. has infused so many resources into the county to defeat him and elect someone who is more compliant with their agenda. They even created an "affordable housing" PAC! Do you think this is genuine? It's a pro-market development PAC that is attempting to sound progressive. The handful of inclusionary zoning units that are included in mega-developments are paltry.

I guess I am surprised how development seems to be the dominant issue in the county, and not his mismanagement of the budget, and increased violent crime. His budget is built on smoke and mirrors and we are going to be in for a world of hurt in the next year or so.

+1 we need more higher paying jobs here. That's how you reduce poverty and crime. That's not going to happen without good mass rapid transit and an incireasei in crime. I don't know why people are so against development. MoCo rental/housing is expensive. These new developments also have set asides for MC/lower income families, and they are usually built near metro stops.

And agree, higher crime is going to drive out people.

I'm not sure what utopia vision Elrich seems to think he can create with what he's doing, but it's not working. We need to try something different, and more people agree with me since Elrich's win has a much smaller margin than last time.

Some bizarre claims in here. Fairfax has all the jobs. Housing in MoCo is also cheaper than Fairfax. Fairfax also has a lot of roads. MoCo has a better bus system than Fairfax and prior to the new Silver line, had equivalent metro service. MoCo refuses to build roads. Seems like roads are more important than transit for job growth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If people in the county only knew what he is spending money on that he shouldn’t be. I know.

Uh ok. I'll take the bait. What is he spending money on that the rest of us aren't aware of?

Just ask anyone on the police force about unnecessarily monumental waste of funds that could and should be stopped easily.

Some people know and are trying. The public knows about it but not to the extent.

You guys missed your chance to educate the public before they voted. Too late now. You would have only had to covert a few dozen votes.

Nope, did try.

It might not have even matter. Elrich people would just say “this is fake news” oh, I’m sorry “disinformation! Taken out of context!” Elrich is the leftist Trump.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whats the latest on the ballots that were refused bc of their post date? I saw on twitter that people were saying they were submitted on time, but postmarked late by the USPS?

I always vote in person; I appreciate the ritual of it. But that does now also seem like the best way to make sure your vote gets counted

Legally they cannot be counted.

Is the only way that would happen is if they dropped it off at the post office after 5 or was collected the next day from their home mailbox?

A possible scenario is that they dropped off at the post office on time, but the post office didn’t process and stamp the mail until the next morning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Elrich supporters aren't as old as people think, we just live in East County and we know our area will be targeted for dense low income development, driving us out of our (more) affordable sfhs eventually. We have a lot more to lose.

Serious question. The violent crime there has truly escalated, and shows no sign of slowing down this year. Many businesses are leaving. Does that not factor into your election choices?

Are you saying they are bringing MORE low income housing to East county? As if we don’t already have enough??? The crime out here is terrible as it is and businesses are shutting down. This would not be smart planning. People out here are already fed up with the huge amounts of poverty and how it is impacting schools, security and shopping.

DP.. I think PP is saying that Elrich's anti-police stance must be contributing to east county crime, so wouldn't that impact how you vote, if you are concerned with high crime in east county?

What is Elrich's plan for the uptick in crime in East County? I don't understand what he's doing to combat the increase in crime. Surely being anti-police is just pouring fuel to the fire for criminals and progressives who want to defund the police?

His plan is to address mental health and homelessness. And he should. But those issues are not contributing to VIOLENT crime. They instead contribute to quality of life issues like the homeless person defecating in front of Starbucks.

He needs increased police presence (which is difficult when there is a police shortage to begin with AND Elrich himself is driving people away, watch the mass exodus in the next few months now that he has won reelection). But combined with police presence are violence prevention initiatives. The County does OK with that. It needs to do better. And those local county-based violence prevention initiatives don't reach out-of-county people who come here to commit violence. You still need police for that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people in the county only knew what he is spending money on that he shouldn’t be. I know.

Uh ok. I'll take the bait. What is he spending money on that the rest of us aren't aware of?

Just ask anyone on the police force about unnecessarily monumental waste of funds that could and should be stopped easily.

Some people know and are trying. The public knows about it but not to the extent.

You guys missed your chance to educate the public before they voted. Too late now. You would have only had to covert a few dozen votes.

Nope, did try.

It might not have even matter. Elrich people would just say “this is fake news” oh, I’m sorry “disinformation! Taken out of context!” Elrich is the leftist Trump.

He is. In addition to the "alternative facts" he lives by, he is a managerial wreck, just like Trump. I was listening to a Brookings podcast today, where the commentator mentioned the word "shambolic." Apparently it's British slang and fits Trump (and Elrich) perfectly. Remember how nobody worth their salt wanted to work for Trump? Watch all the good department heads leave when Elrich starts his second term.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people in the county only knew what he is spending money on that he shouldn’t be. I know.

Uh ok. I'll take the bait. What is he spending money on that the rest of us aren't aware of?

Just ask anyone on the police force about unnecessarily monumental waste of funds that could and should be stopped easily.

But I'm not asking "anyone on the police force" I'm asking you.

And FWIW, I voted Blair. But you gotta put up or shut up when you make ominous comments like that

Not that PP, but how about this:

https://wjla.com/news/local/carmen-facciolo-montgomery-county-civilian-assistant-police-chief-fired-let-go-removed-multiple-alleged-violations-abuse-of-power-executive-marc-elrich-mcpd-law-enforcement-violating-department-policy-maryland

Not only do we not need this post, but the person Elrich tapped to lead it is a grifter. What favor did he do for Elrich to get this post?

Not sure, other than he was a con artist. Elrich sucks at appointments and someone should be asking whether they conducted both a background investigation on this guy as well as a psychological examination. Council needs to step up their oversight authority in the appointment and confirmation process. Elrich's picks are horrible. If they try to fill this position again, those are the MINIMUM questions Council should ask. Just stop with the pro forma confirmations. Grow a spine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They corrected the early voting results and David Blair gained one vote.

I don’t think Blair will pull this one off.

true, but progressives should take note of the teeny tiny margin that Elrich won by.

There are multiple ways to read this.

Elrich is progressive and anti development
Riemer is progressive and pro-development
Blair is moderate and pro-development (but not as much of a hardcore YIMBY as Riemer)

You could say that 60% were agains Elrich, or somewhat more in favor of development, but you could also say 60% wanted a progressive over a moderate.

MoCo leans progressive, and the majority of them live in TP/SS area where Elrich won most of the votes. Go west of 270 and north of ICC, and you will see a lot more Blair support.

Blair won 4 of the 7 Council districts. But Districts 4 and 6 were strongly for Elrich. Most of the county, geographically, wants Blair. But I guess they didn't want him enough, or they would have turned out the vote better.

I don't love Elrich, but can't get past the fact that Big Development, Inc. has infused so many resources into the county to defeat him and elect someone who is more compliant with their agenda. They even created an "affordable housing" PAC! Do you think this is genuine? It's a pro-market development PAC that is attempting to sound progressive. The handful of inclusionary zoning units that are included in mega-developments are paltry.

I guess I am surprised how development seems to be the dominant issue in the county, and not his mismanagement of the budget, and increased violent crime. His budget is built on smoke and mirrors and we are going to be in for a world of hurt in the next year or so.

+1 we need more higher paying jobs here. That's how you reduce poverty and crime. That's not going to happen without good mass rapid transit and an incireasei in crime. I don't know why people are so against development. MoCo rental/housing is expensive. These new developments also have set asides for MC/lower income families, and they are usually built near metro stops.

And agree, higher crime is going to drive out people.

I'm not sure what utopia vision Elrich seems to think he can create with what he's doing, but it's not working. We need to try something different, and more people agree with me since Elrich's win has a much smaller margin than last time.

Some bizarre claims in here. Fairfax has all the jobs. Housing in MoCo is also cheaper than Fairfax. Fairfax also has a lot of roads. MoCo has a better bus system than Fairfax and prior to the new Silver line, had equivalent metro service. MoCo refuses to build roads. Seems like roads are more important than transit for job growth.

I have no idea what your point is.

by your own statement, jobs are in FFX, and I said we need more jobs here. So you agree with me?

We need better transit options other than a bus. Expanding the metro line would be great. Red line stops at Shady Grove. The county has changed a lot in the past 10 years, even, and there is a ton of development in Clarksburg. Are they even looking at expanding metro to Clarksburg?

Doesn't matter if housing is cheaper than FFX. We are talking about MoCo.

But I think we are agreeing that we do need more types of development, yes, including infrastructure if we want to attract good paying jobs.

What has Elrich done to achieve this? The only thing I see him doing is rah rahing all the progressive talking points about inclusion. His outreach to businesses in states that ban abortion are meaningless because we don't have good infrastructure here, nor is MoCo considered "business friendly". Why on earth would those businesses come here rather than to NoVa right across the river?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If people in the county only knew what he is spending money on that he shouldn’t be. I know.

Uh ok. I'll take the bait. What is he spending money on that the rest of us aren't aware of?

Just ask anyone on the police force about unnecessarily monumental waste of funds that could and should be stopped easily.

Some people know and are trying. The public knows about it but not to the extent.

You guys missed your chance to educate the public before they voted. Too late now. You would have only had to covert a few dozen votes.

Nope, did try.

It might not have even matter. Elrich people would just say “this is fake news” oh, I’m sorry “disinformation! Taken out of context!” Elrich is the leftist Trump.

He is. In addition to the "alternative facts" he lives by, he is a managerial wreck, just like Trump. I was listening to a Brookings podcast today, where the commentator mentioned the word "shambolic." Apparently it's British slang and fits Trump (and Elrich) perfectly. Remember how nobody worth their salt wanted to work for Trump? Watch all the good department heads leave when Elrich starts his second term.

“Former staffer in Marc Elrich administration” is not a job description you will see on the LinkedIn profiles of anyone aspiring to advance a public policy career.

That’s why the people who stick with him are sycophants and divorced from reality. If you’ve ever met D&D in his office, the things they say it’s as if they exist on a different planet. And the political people around him in his inner circle are similar to the Trump people in that they are all either corrupt, or clownish trolls, or both. I am absolutely shocked that Jamie Raskin endorsed him at the last minute. I wonder what possessed him to do that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people in the county only knew what he is spending money on that he shouldn’t be. I know.

Uh ok. I'll take the bait. What is he spending money on that the rest of us aren't aware of?

Just ask anyone on the police force about unnecessarily monumental waste of funds that could and should be stopped easily.

But I'm not asking "anyone on the police force" I'm asking you.

And FWIW, I voted Blair. But you gotta put up or shut up when you make ominous comments like that

Not that PP, but how about this:

https://wjla.com/news/local/carmen-facciolo-montgomery-county-civilian-assistant-police-chief-fired-let-go-removed-multiple-alleged-violations-abuse-of-power-executive-marc-elrich-mcpd-law-enforcement-violating-department-policy-maryland

Not only do we not need this post, but the person Elrich tapped to lead it is a grifter. What favor did he do for Elrich to get this post?

Not sure, other than he was a con artist. Elrich sucks at appointments and someone should be asking whether they conducted both a background investigation on this guy as well as a psychological examination. Council needs to step up their oversight authority in the appointment and confirmation process. Elrich's picks are horrible. If they try to fill this position again, those are the MINIMUM questions Council should ask. Just stop with the pro forma confirmations. Grow a spine.

+1 agree. Who did that guy answer to? Elrich? It's no wonder he was fired for being sleazy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If people in the county only knew what he is spending money on that he shouldn’t be. I know.

Uh ok. I'll take the bait. What is he spending money on that the rest of us aren't aware of?

Just ask anyone on the police force about unnecessarily monumental waste of funds that could and should be stopped easily.

Some people know and are trying. The public knows about it but not to the extent.

You guys missed your chance to educate the public before they voted. Too late now. You would have only had to covert a few dozen votes.

Nope, did try.

It might not have even matter. Elrich people would just say “this is fake news” oh, I’m sorry “disinformation! Taken out of context!” Elrich is the leftist Trump.

He is. In addition to the "alternative facts" he lives by, he is a managerial wreck, just like Trump. I was listening to a Brookings podcast today, where the commentator mentioned the word "shambolic." Apparently it's British slang and fits Trump (and Elrich) perfectly. Remember how nobody worth their salt wanted to work for Trump? Watch all the good department heads leave when Elrich starts his second term.

“Former staffer in Marc Elrich administration” is not a job description you will see on the LinkedIn profiles of anyone aspiring to advance a public policy career.

That’s why the people who stick with him are sycophants and divorced from reality. If you’ve ever met D&D in his office, the things they say it’s as if they exist on a different planet. And the political people around him in his inner circle are similar to the Trump people in that they are all either corrupt, or clownish trolls, or both. I am absolutely shocked that Jamie Raskin endorsed him at the last minute. I wonder what possessed him to do that.

D&D were at the canvassing site day after day, on work days. Did they take leave to be there? Or was the county giving them a paycheck to do campaign-related work. Has anyone checked that?