DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the silence to the questions we may assume the following:

1. Hardy doesn’t seem to care whether they use Jelleff field for the physical education needs of its student body and hasn’t bothered to ask. And if they want to use Jelleff, perhaps the field use by the British School effectively precludes Hardy’s use during the school day. It’s interesting that the for profit British School is given a complete pass when Jelleff field use during the school day potentially could benefit the entire student body. Yet Maret is targeted and vilified for their far fewer hours of field use during a time that affects relatively few Hardy students, as compared to phys Ed enrollment. This whole social media smear campaign seems more and more about hurting Maret than actually benefiting Hardy.

2. It’s quite likely that the British School pays meaningfully less than Maret for more than twice as many hours and for more weeks, plus the right to park its buses at Jelleff.

Not sure if you are actually looking for an answer to these questions but the following cover both: The reason that the Maret deal is harmful to the community and has the attention over the British School is because Maret used the field during the times that are most in demand. Those times are more valuable. If Maret wanted to pay what it pays to use the field at 9pm nobody would care and it seems the British school uses it during the day when AFTER-SCHOOL sports are not being played. It is basic economics. Maret wants the in-demand hours but its supporters seem incapable of understanding that other kids want the same hours. (they in fact had some kid testify how important being able to play baseball at Maret was to him. So now he is being raised to think that it is only what is important to him that matters, and he clearly does not realize that there might be other kids who do not go to Maret who want to play baseball. The next generation of Maret trustees).

There’s also a baseball/softball field at Guy Mason, an easy walk from Hardy. Don’t tell us that Maret has somehow injured Hardy and other groups there, too.

Although Hardy isn’t in remotely in Deal’s league academically, we can confidently assume that it is training its students well in victimization and grievance studies !

There are plenty of other private fields that Maret can take the bus to, the way Maret students bus to Jelleff now. Is Maret training its students only to take public resources to which they have no right? Why is it that Maret won't pay market rate for a field and only wants to pay $95k/year to grab a public park?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the silence to the questions we may assume the following:

1. Hardy doesn’t seem to care whether they use Jelleff field for the physical education needs of its student body and hasn’t bothered to ask. And if they want to use Jelleff, perhaps the field use by the British School effectively precludes Hardy’s use during the school day. It’s interesting that the for profit British School is given a complete pass when Jelleff field use during the school day potentially could benefit the entire student body. Yet Maret is targeted and vilified for their far fewer hours of field use during a time that affects relatively few Hardy students, as compared to phys Ed enrollment. This whole social media smear campaign seems more and more about hurting Maret than actually benefiting Hardy.

2. It’s quite likely that the British School pays meaningfully less than Maret for more than twice as many hours and for more weeks, plus the right to park its buses at Jelleff.

Not sure if you are actually looking for an answer to these questions but the following cover both: The reason that the Maret deal is harmful to the community and has the attention over the British School is because Maret used the field during the times that are most in demand. Those times are more valuable. If Maret wanted to pay what it pays to use the field at 9pm nobody would care and it seems the British school uses it during the day when AFTER-SCHOOL sports are not being played. It is basic economics. Maret wants the in-demand hours but its supporters seem incapable of understanding that other kids want the same hours. (they in fact had some kid testify how important being able to play baseball at Maret was to him. So now he is being raised to think that it is only what is important to him that matters, and he clearly does not realize that there might be other kids who do not go to Maret who want to play baseball. The next generation of Maret trustees).

There’s also a baseball/softball field at Guy Mason, an easy walk from Hardy. Don’t tell us that Maret has somehow injured Hardy and other groups there, too.

Although Hardy isn’t in remotely in Deal’s league academically, we can confidently assume that it is training its students well in victimization and grievance studies !

Maret is welcome to go through the process to permit for Guy Mason field if it wants. Maret is not entitled to exclusive use of Jeleff just because there are other fields (or parking lots as one poster keeps pushing for). Not sure if you are being deliberately obtuse here but the point is that it doesn't matter if there are other fields that Hardy, Boys/Girls club/ other parties could use- the deal is still illegal and poor policy.

Ha, apparently Maret is teaching its students well in how to be a villian: "Do something bad, and when the victim complains, try to make the victim bad for pointing out that it has been aggrieved."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the silence to the questions we may assume the following:

1. Hardy doesn’t seem to care whether they use Jelleff field for the physical education needs of its student body and hasn’t bothered to ask. And if they want to use Jelleff, perhaps the field use by the British School effectively precludes Hardy’s use during the school day. It’s interesting that the for profit British School is given a complete pass when Jelleff field use during the school day potentially could benefit the entire student body. Yet Maret is targeted and vilified for their far fewer hours of field use during a time that affects relatively few Hardy students, as compared to phys Ed enrollment. This whole social media smear campaign seems more and more about hurting Maret than actually benefiting Hardy.

2. It’s quite likely that the British School pays meaningfully less than Maret for more than twice as many hours and for more weeks, plus the right to park its buses at Jelleff.

Not sure if you are actually looking for an answer to these questions but the following cover both: The reason that the Maret deal is harmful to the community and has the attention over the British School is because Maret used the field during the times that are most in demand. Those times are more valuable. If Maret wanted to pay what it pays to use the field at 9pm nobody would care and it seems the British school uses it during the day when AFTER-SCHOOL sports are not being played. It is basic economics. Maret wants the in-demand hours but its supporters seem incapable of understanding that other kids want the same hours. (they in fact had some kid testify how important being able to play baseball at Maret was to him. So now he is being raised to think that it is only what is important to him that matters, and he clearly does not realize that there might be other kids who do not go to Maret who want to play baseball. The next generation of Maret trustees).

There’s also a baseball/softball field at Guy Mason, an easy walk from Hardy. Don’t tell us that Maret has somehow injured Hardy and other groups there, too.

Although Hardy isn’t in remotely in Deal’s league academically, we can confidently assume that it is training its students well in victimization and grievance studies !

There are plenty of other private fields that Maret can take the bus to, the way Maret students bus to Jelleff now. Is Maret training its students only to take public resources to which they have no right? Why is it that Maret won't pay market rate for a field and only wants to pay $95k/year to grab a public park?

You must have learned Hardy (aka hardly) math. If you look at Maret’s average payments over 19 years it works out to approximately $230,000 annually which is pretty substantial for a few hours per week, during four months per year. No one will answer what the British School pays, as that would be an interesting data point to compare whether Maret’s nearly quarter of a million dollars annually is “market rate” as you put it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the silence to the questions we may assume the following:

1. Hardy doesn’t seem to care whether they use Jelleff field for the physical education needs of its student body and hasn’t bothered to ask. And if they want to use Jelleff, perhaps the field use by the British School effectively precludes Hardy’s use during the school day. It’s interesting that the for profit British School is given a complete pass when Jelleff field use during the school day potentially could benefit the entire student body. Yet Maret is targeted and vilified for their far fewer hours of field use during a time that affects relatively few Hardy students, as compared to phys Ed enrollment. This whole social media smear campaign seems more and more about hurting Maret than actually benefiting Hardy.

2. It’s quite likely that the British School pays meaningfully less than Maret for more than twice as many hours and for more weeks, plus the right to park its buses at Jelleff.

Not sure if you are actually looking for an answer to these questions but the following cover both: The reason that the Maret deal is harmful to the community and has the attention over the British School is because Maret used the field during the times that are most in demand. Those times are more valuable. If Maret wanted to pay what it pays to use the field at 9pm nobody would care and it seems the British school uses it during the day when AFTER-SCHOOL sports are not being played. It is basic economics. Maret wants the in-demand hours but its supporters seem incapable of understanding that other kids want the same hours. (they in fact had some kid testify how important being able to play baseball at Maret was to him. So now he is being raised to think that it is only what is important to him that matters, and he clearly does not realize that there might be other kids who do not go to Maret who want to play baseball. The next generation of Maret trustees).

There’s also a baseball/softball field at Guy Mason, an easy walk from Hardy. Don’t tell us that Maret has somehow injured Hardy and other groups there, too.

Although Hardy isn’t in remotely in Deal’s league academically, we can confidently assume that it is training its students well in victimization and grievance studies !

There are plenty of other private fields that Maret can take the bus to, the way Maret students bus to Jelleff now. Is Maret training its students only to take public resources to which they have no right? Why is it that Maret won't pay market rate for a field and only wants to pay $95k/year to grab a public park?

You must have learned Hardy (aka hardly) math. If you look at Maret’s average payments over 19 years it works out to approximately $230,000 annually which is pretty substantial for a few hours per week, during four months per year. No one will answer what the British School pays, as that would be an interesting data point to compare whether Maret’s nearly quarter of a million dollars annually is “market rate” as you put it.

No, you've learned math and reading comprehension at Maret, along with values. Maret will only pay $95,000 a year for the next decade. What they've paid in the past was for infrastructure that the DC government already provided in the past decade, no matter how you feel like "averaging" the total. DC taxpayers paid $15 million for the field a decade ago plus will pay $7 million to renovate the Jelleff Rec Center, so Maret's $95,000 is just peanuts. But you know that, and just want to troll and pick on less underprivileged DC public school students who dare question Maret's right to take over public facilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the silence to the questions we may assume the following:

1. Hardy doesn’t seem to care whether they use Jelleff field for the physical education needs of its student body and hasn’t bothered to ask. And if they want to use Jelleff, perhaps the field use by the British School effectively precludes Hardy’s use during the school day. It’s interesting that the for profit British School is given a complete pass when Jelleff field use during the school day potentially could benefit the entire student body. Yet Maret is targeted and vilified for their far fewer hours of field use during a time that affects relatively few Hardy students, as compared to phys Ed enrollment. This whole social media smear campaign seems more and more about hurting Maret than actually benefiting Hardy.

2. It’s quite likely that the British School pays meaningfully less than Maret for more than twice as many hours and for more weeks, plus the right to park its buses at Jelleff.

Not sure if you are actually looking for an answer to these questions but the following cover both: The reason that the Maret deal is harmful to the community and has the attention over the British School is because Maret used the field during the times that are most in demand. Those times are more valuable. If Maret wanted to pay what it pays to use the field at 9pm nobody would care and it seems the British school uses it during the day when AFTER-SCHOOL sports are not being played. It is basic economics. Maret wants the in-demand hours but its supporters seem incapable of understanding that other kids want the same hours. (they in fact had some kid testify how important being able to play baseball at Maret was to him. So now he is being raised to think that it is only what is important to him that matters, and he clearly does not realize that there might be other kids who do not go to Maret who want to play baseball. The next generation of Maret trustees).

There’s also a baseball/softball field at Guy Mason, an easy walk from Hardy. Don’t tell us that Maret has somehow injured Hardy and other groups there, too.

Although Hardy isn’t in remotely in Deal’s league academically, we can confidently assume that it is training its students well in victimization and grievance studies !

There are plenty of other private fields that Maret can take the bus to, the way Maret students bus to Jelleff now. Is Maret training its students only to take public resources to which they have no right? Why is it that Maret won't pay market rate for a field and only wants to pay $95k/year to grab a public park?

You must have learned Hardy (aka hardly) math. If you look at Maret’s average payments over 19 years it works out to approximately $230,000 annually which is pretty substantial for a few hours per week, during four months per year. No one will answer what the British School pays, as that would be an interesting data point to compare whether Maret’s nearly quarter of a million dollars annually is “market rate” as you put it.

No, you've learned math and reading comprehension at Maret, along with values. Maret will only pay $95,000 a year for the next decade. What they've paid in the past was for infrastructure that the DC government already provided in the past decade, no matter how you feel like "averaging" the total. DC taxpayers paid $15 million for the field a decade ago plus will pay $7 million to renovate the Jelleff Rec Center, so Maret's $95,000 is just peanuts. But you know that, and just want to troll and pick on less underprivileged DC public school students who dare question Maret's right to take over public facilities.

+1 GDS spent $40 million just buying the land for its new campus, not to mention the cost for buildings, renovation, etc. Maret has a beer budget and caviar dreams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the silence to the questions we may assume the following:

1. Hardy doesn’t seem to care whether they use Jelleff field for the physical education needs of its student body and hasn’t bothered to ask. And if they want to use Jelleff, perhaps the field use by the British School effectively precludes Hardy’s use during the school day. It’s interesting that the for profit British School is given a complete pass when Jelleff field use during the school day potentially could benefit the entire student body. Yet Maret is targeted and vilified for their far fewer hours of field use during a time that affects relatively few Hardy students, as compared to phys Ed enrollment. This whole social media smear campaign seems more and more about hurting Maret than actually benefiting Hardy.

2. It’s quite likely that the British School pays meaningfully less than Maret for more than twice as many hours and for more weeks, plus the right to park its buses at Jelleff.

Not sure if you are actually looking for an answer to these questions but the following cover both: The reason that the Maret deal is harmful to the community and has the attention over the British School is because Maret used the field during the times that are most in demand. Those times are more valuable. If Maret wanted to pay what it pays to use the field at 9pm nobody would care and it seems the British school uses it during the day when AFTER-SCHOOL sports are not being played. It is basic economics. Maret wants the in-demand hours but its supporters seem incapable of understanding that other kids want the same hours. (they in fact had some kid testify how important being able to play baseball at Maret was to him. So now he is being raised to think that it is only what is important to him that matters, and he clearly does not realize that there might be other kids who do not go to Maret who want to play baseball. The next generation of Maret trustees).

There’s also a baseball/softball field at Guy Mason, an easy walk from Hardy. Don’t tell us that Maret has somehow injured Hardy and other groups there, too.

Although Hardy isn’t in remotely in Deal’s league academically, we can confidently assume that it is training its students well in victimization and grievance studies !

There are plenty of other private fields that Maret can take the bus to, the way Maret students bus to Jelleff now. Is Maret training its students only to take public resources to which they have no right? Why is it that Maret won't pay market rate for a field and only wants to pay $95k/year to grab a public park?

You must have learned Hardy (aka hardly) math. If you look at Maret’s average payments over 19 years it works out to approximately $230,000 annually which is pretty substantial for a few hours per week, during four months per year. No one will answer what the British School pays, as that would be an interesting data point to compare whether Maret’s nearly quarter of a million dollars annually is “market rate” as you put it.

Your math is wrong. $2.4 million in the original deal, 950K in the extension=$2.35 million over 19 years, or $124K per year. But your math isn't the problem, your logic is. Maret agreed to a ten-year deal. Period. End of story. That ten-year deal may or may not have been generous to the city, but Maret can't come back and say, "I know we said ten years but we really meant 19." That's not how it works.

[Anonymous]

How much does the Boys and Girls Club pay DC to use the Jeleff faculty, in order to run its camp and other programs there ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the silence to the questions we may assume the following:

1. Hardy doesn’t seem to care whether they use Jelleff field for the physical education needs of its student body and hasn’t bothered to ask. And if they want to use Jelleff, perhaps the field use by the British School effectively precludes Hardy’s use during the school day. It’s interesting that the for profit British School is given a complete pass when Jelleff field use during the school day potentially could benefit the entire student body. Yet Maret is targeted and vilified for their far fewer hours of field use during a time that affects relatively few Hardy students, as compared to phys Ed enrollment. This whole social media smear campaign seems more and more about hurting Maret than actually benefiting Hardy.

2. It’s quite likely that the British School pays meaningfully less than Maret for more than twice as many hours and for more weeks, plus the right to park its buses at Jelleff.

Not sure if you are actually looking for an answer to these questions but the following cover both: The reason that the Maret deal is harmful to the community and has the attention over the British School is because Maret used the field during the times that are most in demand. Those times are more valuable. If Maret wanted to pay what it pays to use the field at 9pm nobody would care and it seems the British school uses it during the day when AFTER-SCHOOL sports are not being played. It is basic economics. Maret wants the in-demand hours but its supporters seem incapable of understanding that other kids want the same hours. (they in fact had some kid testify how important being able to play baseball at Maret was to him. So now he is being raised to think that it is only what is important to him that matters, and he clearly does not realize that there might be other kids who do not go to Maret who want to play baseball. The next generation of Maret trustees).

There’s also a baseball/softball field at Guy Mason, an easy walk from Hardy. Don’t tell us that Maret has somehow injured Hardy and other groups there, too.

Although Hardy isn’t in remotely in Deal’s league academically, we can confidently assume that it is training its students well in victimization and grievance studies !

There are plenty of other private fields that Maret can take the bus to, the way Maret students bus to Jelleff now. Is Maret training its students only to take public resources to which they have no right? Why is it that Maret won't pay market rate for a field and only wants to pay $95k/year to grab a public park?

You must have learned Hardy (aka hardly) math. If you look at Maret’s average payments over 19 years it works out to approximately $230,000 annually which is pretty substantial for a few hours per week, during four months per year. No one will answer what the British School pays, as that would be an interesting data point to compare whether Maret’s nearly quarter of a million dollars annually is “market rate” as you put it.

Please show your work and you may get partial credit - for creativity.

[Anonymous]

Hardy parents should be looking into why their teams can't use Mason and instead have to use DPR fields in other quadrants of the city. But that doesn't make the Jelleff deal any better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the silence to the questions we may assume the following:

1. Hardy doesn’t seem to care whether they use Jelleff field for the physical education needs of its student body and hasn’t bothered to ask. And if they want to use Jelleff, perhaps the field use by the British School effectively precludes Hardy’s use during the school day. It’s interesting that the for profit British School is given a complete pass when Jelleff field use during the school day potentially could benefit the entire student body. Yet Maret is targeted and vilified for their far fewer hours of field use during a time that affects relatively few Hardy students, as compared to phys Ed enrollment. This whole social media smear campaign seems more and more about hurting Maret than actually benefiting Hardy.

2. It’s quite likely that the British School pays meaningfully less than Maret for more than twice as many hours and for more weeks, plus the right to park its buses at Jelleff.

Not sure if you are actually looking for an answer to these questions but the following cover both: The reason that the Maret deal is harmful to the community and has the attention over the British School is because Maret used the field during the times that are most in demand. Those times are more valuable. If Maret wanted to pay what it pays to use the field at 9pm nobody would care and it seems the British school uses it during the day when AFTER-SCHOOL sports are not being played. It is basic economics. Maret wants the in-demand hours but its supporters seem incapable of understanding that other kids want the same hours. (they in fact had some kid testify how important being able to play baseball at Maret was to him. So now he is being raised to think that it is only what is important to him that matters, and he clearly does not realize that there might be other kids who do not go to Maret who want to play baseball. The next generation of Maret trustees).

There’s also a baseball/softball field at Guy Mason, an easy walk from Hardy. Don’t tell us that Maret has somehow injured Hardy and other groups there, too.

Although Hardy isn’t in remotely in Deal’s league academically, we can confidently assume that it is training its students well in victimization and grievance studies !

There are plenty of other private fields that Maret can take the bus to, the way Maret students bus to Jelleff now. Is Maret training its students only to take public resources to which they have no right? Why is it that Maret won't pay market rate for a field and only wants to pay $95k/year to grab a public park?

You must have learned Hardy (aka hardly) math. If you look at Maret’s average payments over 19 years it works out to approximately $230,000 annually which is pretty substantial for a few hours per week, during four months per year. No one will answer what the British School pays, as that would be an interesting data point to compare whether Maret’s nearly quarter of a million dollars annually is “market rate” as you put it.

Your math is wrong. $2.4 million in the original deal, 950K in the extension=$2.35 million over 19 years, or $124K per year. But your math isn't the problem, your logic is. Maret agreed to a ten-year deal. Period. End of story. That ten-year deal may or may not have been generous to the city, but Maret can't come back and say, "I know we said ten years but we really meant 19." That's not how it works.

This. And for Maret to come back 10 years later in the face of virulent community opposition and sign a backroom deal for less than half the original deal is the height of privilege and disdain to the community.

[Anonymous]

Muriel Bowser has announced that $25 million will be committed in Dc taxpayer funds to renovate Jelleff rec center. Plus DC taxpayers paid $15 million for the land for Jelleff more than a decade ago. So exactly how does Maret get away with paying just $95k/year that so many public schools and comunity groups need and can’t access during the most active parts of the day?

https://georgetowner.com/articles/2019/12/23/top-2019-news-in-georgetown-evans-jelleff-bikes-scooters/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Muriel Bowser has announced that $25 million will be committed in Dc taxpayer funds to renovate Jelleff rec center. Plus DC taxpayers paid $15 million for the land for Jelleff more than a decade ago. So exactly how does Maret get away with paying just $95k/year that so many public schools and comunity groups need and can’t access during the most active parts of the day?

https://georgetowner.com/articles/2019/12/23/top-2019-news-in-georgetown-evans-jelleff-bikes-scooters/

Because Bowser is in cahoots with property developers, and Maret has lots of those in its community (eg, both Abdos and Youngentob of EYA were all at the hearing).

[Anonymous]

^^ In other words, it’s all very slimy.

[Anonymous]

The real “virulent” community opposition comes from a failed failed ANC candidate, who doesn’t even live in the community but rather in SW, and a handful of his friends who seem obsessed with a vendetta against Maret.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Muriel Bowser has announced that $25 million will be committed in Dc taxpayer funds to renovate Jelleff rec center. Plus DC taxpayers paid $15 million for the land for Jelleff more than a decade ago. So exactly how does Maret get away with paying just $95k/year that so many public schools and comunity groups need and can’t access during the most active parts of the day?

https://georgetowner.com/articles/2019/12/23/top-2019-news-in-georgetown-evans-jelleff-bikes-scooters/

Because Bowser is in cahoots with property developers, and Maret has lots of those in its community (eg, both Abdos and Youngentob of EYA were all at the hearing).

It’s sad that ostentatiously wealthy property developers Jim and Mai Abdo fight so hard against having Maret find a market rate property and prefer to have Maret pay $95,000/year for a badly needed DC public park. Their private catering budget reaches $95,000 in a period of three months.