Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.

If you had an 18 year old boy he would have heard of him. My college freshman said the killing was all his team talked about at practice yesterday. The team is a mix of conservative and liberal kids and opinions on Kirk ranged from adoration to disgust. He said they had a respectful discussion, which gave me great hope.

I'm struggling with adoration of hate and why people who were the targets of Kirk's hate need to be respectful.

Unlike you, there was no hate demonstrated by Kirk. He was respectful and accepting of all kinds of people. Watch some of his interviews and debates. You may not agree with him, but he was never hateful.

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“ I am thrilled that he was transported by AF 2. He is very deserving of it.”

Why? What’s the bar for you?

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.

My college teens had never heard of him, when he was shot, they were told by friends that “he promotes gun violence and says horrific things”
So I guess it depends on who/where you are

My high school teen asked me about him last week so I explained scamming via 990s and explained that he's basically a con artist with rizz.

Face it, MOST “internet influencer” or “podcasters” never get traction and are drop out scam artists. Pushing cosmetics, pushing their personal option, pushing their Huak Tuan viral event for five mins.

Then there are the talented people who use them for civil discourse (Kirk) or broadening others horizons (Kelsey bros).

If you can’t tell the difference you’re not listening

I hate to tell you bro, but they are also scammers.

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Anonymous wrote:We need to hear more about this suspect in custody, ASAP. The longer they wait, the more conspiracy theories will flourish, and groups of people will be targeted in retaliation.

No

That’s not how it works at all.

Unclear why America needs to broadcast all its court cases, military strategies, and investigations.
Most countries do not whatsoever.

It’s an investigation and trial in court. Death penalty. They will get the details, not you.

Once the clown in charge makes a public announcement after one of the most important newspapers leaks details implicating trans activists, the people in charge have a responsibility to deescalate, to address miniformation.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a video of the disrespectful carrying.

Our tax dollars spent to transport a civilian?? Getting weirder and weirder

This is absolutely outrageous. I cannot believe they used Air Force Two for this.

Bodies are transported in caskets in FedEx and UPS air cargo planes every day. He can ride with the mail order packages of printer toner and fake rubber dogsh!t, where he belongs

I am thrilled that he was transported by AF 2. He is very deserving of it.
And you might want to take a break from social media and consider what kind of person you are.

DP. Only AF2? Why not AF1?

Because AF 2 was already in Utah.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need to hear more about this suspect in custody, ASAP. The longer they wait, the more conspiracy theories will flourish, and groups of people will be targeted in retaliation.

No

That’s not how it works at all.

Unclear why America needs to broadcast all its court cases, military strategies, and investigations.
Most countries do not whatsoever.

It’s an investigation and trial in court. Death penalty. They will get the details, not you.

Then why even announce that a suspect is in custody?

Did any announcement come from law enforcement? Or did Trump just divulge information before law enforcement was ready?

The Executive in Chief divulged it.

[Anonymous]

Kirk was a Megyn Kelly opportunist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.

If you had an 18 year old boy he would have heard of him. My college freshman said the killing was all his team talked about at practice yesterday. The team is a mix of conservative and liberal kids and opinions on Kirk ranged from adoration to disgust. He said they had a respectful discussion, which gave me great hope.

I'm struggling with adoration of hate and why people who were the targets of Kirk's hate need to be respectful.

What people or individuals were targeted of “Kirk’s hate”? When did he said he hated person XYZ or a group of people abc?

Or did he said he hates crime? Or murderers? Or hates the lack of morals out there?

What did he say he hated exactly? A thing? A concept? A proper noun person? A group of benign people? A country?

He said abortion was murder, so there's millions of murderers out here according to him. Why don't you try to argue that people do not hate on murderers.

I guess he was so respectfully calling people. murderers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a video of the disrespectful carrying.

Our tax dollars spent to transport a civilian?? Getting weirder and weirder

This is absolutely outrageous. I cannot believe they used Air Force Two for this.

Bodies are transported in caskets in FedEx and UPS air cargo planes every day. He can ride with the mail order packages of printer toner and fake rubber dogsh!t, where he belongs

I am thrilled that he was transported by AF 2. He is very deserving of it.
And you might want to take a break from social media and consider what kind of person you are.

DP. Only AF2? Why not AF1?

Trump is deathly ill. He can’t be out in public like JD. He can only sit at his desk motionless to provide the framing for AI videos.

So his airplane was free to use. How disrespectful to send AF2.

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Anonymous wrote:The way MAGA is exploiting this to promote mass violence against totally unrelated people like HBCUs and transgender people, and persecuting people for acknowledging Kirk’s own public advocacy about 2nd Amendment, it’s looking more and more like a false flag operation.

HBCUs are on lockdown because of the threats. Republicans are so reckless with their rhetoric. Somehow Charlie Kirk getting killed means that black people must have something to do with it causes threats to be made.

Republicans don't sit here and say that you are not violent when Trump is out hear blaming woke liberals causing chaos.

A white man kills a white man in state with 1.6% Black people, so naturally the enwhitened conservatives immediately attack Black people thousands of miles away.

It’s very frustrating, because Black Women have overwhelming jumped out of the way of this Administration. Minimal protest activity and just trying to make it through to the other side of this term. Charlie Kirk was not a known person to most Black people, so I don’t understand why this is happening.

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Anonymous wrote:For those questioning all the media coverage, it’s the first time an American has been publicly assassinated in the US for their political beliefs SINCE 1968. It’s a big deal.

Uh you’re forgetting the two legislators in MN.

That was not a public assassination. It took place in a private home.

What difference does THAT make?

Public assassinations tend to have a greater impact than private ones.

Public assassinations occur in front of witnesses or are captured by media, which amplifies the shock. The public setting turns the act into a spectacle, symbolizing a direct attack on shared values or leadership, which resonates widely and instantly. Private killings lack this immediate, communal exposure.

A public killing violates the sense of safety in shared spaces, making it feel like an attack on the public itself. Private assassinations feel more isolated, limiting the visceral sense of collective threat.

Hence the media coverage and why many are feeling this event deeply. It’s the first political assassination the public has witnessed in the US since 1968.

Wow, Charlie Kirk really did make us officially forget Sept 11 2001.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to hear more about this suspect in custody, ASAP. The longer they wait, the more conspiracy theories will flourish, and groups of people will be targeted in retaliation.

No

That’s not how it works at all.

Unclear why America needs to broadcast all its court cases, military strategies, and investigations.
Most countries do not whatsoever.

It’s an investigation and trial in court. Death penalty. They will get the details, not you.

Once the clown in charge makes a public announcement after one of the most important newspapers leaks details implicating trans activists, the people in charge have a responsibility to deescalate, to address miniformation.

This thing about the bullet cartridges was the most ridiculously obvious propaganda but once it got out, it was believed and you can’t get the toothpaste back in the tube.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many of you leftists have no idea why Kirk's assassination has turned into such a big deal.

Kirk was doing it "the right way" according to the left. Disagree politely, listen, give the other side space.

And he was killed because leftists didn't like what he had to say (as this thread amply shows) and they didn't want him to keep saying it.

Lots and lots of the "Democrat base" are celebrating and cheering the deliberate murder of someone who had the guts to publicly disagree with the left. "Debate this!" I see the signs being posted on college campuses, with a drawing of Kirk bleeding out from his neck.

So.

What value is there is "peace" and "restraint" when leftists murdered the most prominent guy on the right who was all about peace and restraint? And celebrate his death?

If you leftists are so glad to see Kirk killed... well, there's no possibility of peace, is there. He WAS the "peaceful solution". And leftists murdered him for it. Or at least are very happy about it.

If Kirk is not acceptable to the left.... we all know you guys would GLADLY kill the rest of us, too.

Kirk was a sort of "ambassador" to the left... and he was murdered because of it. What happens when an ambassador is killed? That's a casus belli and has been since Ghengis Khan, at the very least.

I don’t appreciate the broad generalization happening here. First off, this person probably worked alone, 75 million people and or anyone official is involved here. I have no control over what others say or do. And I think “lots” is an exaggeration. The celebrators are a minority amongst a large group of people.

It's been less than 24 hours since he was killed, and I've already seen coworkers, people just out in public - and certainly a lot of people on this very board, openly cheering that he was killed.

I think you're wrong in thinking that this is a 'small' segment of people on the left. I wasn't even looking, and saw dozens of examples of it, less than a day after he was killed.

I didn't agree with much of anything Charlie Kirk said. But first and foremost, he was a human being, with a wife and two young kids that will now grow up without a father. I'm deeply disappointed and kind of shocked by my own political party at the moment. There's some sickening stuff being said on reddit/bluesky/twitter, and it's not even been a day.

If you have receipts, then post them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to hear more about this suspect in custody, ASAP. The longer they wait, the more conspiracy theories will flourish, and groups of people will be targeted in retaliation.

No

That’s not how it works at all.

Unclear why America needs to broadcast all its court cases, military strategies, and investigations.
Most countries do not whatsoever.

It’s an investigation and trial in court. Death penalty. They will get the details, not you.

Once the clown in charge makes a public announcement after one of the most important newspapers leaks details implicating trans activists, the people in charge have a responsibility to deescalate, to address miniformation.

Dude even middle school curricula cover Fake News and Mass media lies and lack of fact checking.

No one believes the “news” or the “blogs.” They all race for a one second news cycle and get it wrong most of the time. Why? For click bait people like you all!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a video of the disrespectful carrying.

Our tax dollars spent to transport a civilian?? Getting weirder and weirder

This is absolutely outrageous. I cannot believe they used Air Force Two for this.

Bodies are transported in caskets in FedEx and UPS air cargo planes every day. He can ride with the mail order packages of printer toner and fake rubber dogsh!t, where he belongs

I am thrilled that he was transported by AF 2. He is very deserving of it.
And you might want to take a break from social media and consider what kind of person you are.

DP. Only AF2? Why not AF1?

Trump is deathly ill. He can’t be out in public like JD. He can only sit at his desk motionless to provide the framing for AI videos.

So his airplane was free to use. How disrespectful to send AF2.

The plane bears the designation based on who is occupying it. AF1 is only that when the President is aboard.