Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Over and over again, the motive points to Israel

He stepped out of line with Israel.

Bigot much?
I can't see how jumping to "maybe the jews did it" this early with such little information is anything but bigoted.

He himself said he feared Israel might kill him. So this isn't about me or "bigotry." Try to keep up and pay better attention.

Most of the world is against Israel right now. This guy's single voice isn't worth a mossad operation. The Epstein angle on the other hand....

I really don’t understand the Epstein angle. It makes you guys sound crazy.

Then your being willfully ignorant that the most powerful man in the entire world is under threat of being canceled due to his friendship with a known pedophile.

But Charlie Kirk wouldn’t be the one to kill. Who was he? I don’t even know. That is how influential Charlie Kirk was. Sorry but he wasn’t important enough to assassinate.

Yes he is because he was the one who brought up the topic, when he called for the release of all government files related to Jeffrey Epstein.

But who was listening to him other than radical right wing white young white males? Who else knew of his existence really?

I was aware of Kirk and his hate machine, but I didn't follow him on SM, etc. I think there are a number of Dems who were similar to me - knew about Kirk, TPUSA, etc, but didn't track him on a daily basis unless that was part of their work brief.

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Anonymous wrote:The way MAGA is exploiting this to promote mass violence against totally unrelated people like HBCUs and transgender people, and persecuting people for acknowledging Kirk’s own public advocacy about 2nd Amendment, it’s looking more and more like a false flag operation.

HBCUs are on lockdown because of the threats. Republicans are so reckless with their rhetoric. Somehow Charlie Kirk getting killed means that black people must have something to do with it causes threats to be made.

Republicans don't sit here and say that you are not violent when Trump is out hear blaming woke liberals causing chaos.

A white man kills a white man in state with 1.6% Black people, so naturally the enwhitened conservatives immediately attack Black people thousands of miles away.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.

If you had an 18 year old boy he would have heard of him. My college freshman said the killing was all his team talked about at practice yesterday. The team is a mix of conservative and liberal kids and opinions on Kirk ranged from adoration to disgust. He said they had a respectful discussion, which gave me great hope.

I'm struggling with adoration of hate and why people who were the targets of Kirk's hate need to be respectful.

What people or individuals were targeted of “Kirk’s hate”? When did he said he hated person XYZ or a group of people abc?

Or did he said he hates crime? Or murderers? Or hates the lack of morals out there?

What did he say he hated exactly? A thing? A concept? A proper noun person? A group of benign people? A country?

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Anonymous wrote:We need to hear more about this suspect in custody, ASAP. The longer they wait, the more conspiracy theories will flourish, and groups of people will be targeted in retaliation.

No

That’s not how it works at all.

Unclear why America needs to broadcast all its court cases, military strategies, and investigations.
Most countries do not whatsoever.

It’s an investigation and trial in court. Death penalty. They will get the details, not you.

Then why even announce that a suspect is in custody?

Did any announcement come from law enforcement? Or did Trump just divulge information before law enforcement was ready?

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Anonymous wrote:We need to hear more about this suspect in custody, ASAP. The longer they wait, the more conspiracy theories will flourish, and groups of people will be targeted in retaliation.

No

That’s not how it works at all.

Unclear why America needs to broadcast all its court cases, military strategies, and investigations.
Most countries do not whatsoever.

It’s an investigation and trial in court. Death penalty. They will get the details, not you.

Then why even announce that a suspect is in custody?

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/rule_3_8_special_responsibilities_of_a_prosecutor/

See part f. To protect the integrity of a criminal case, a prosecutor and law enforcement should refrain from making unnecessary comments about a criminal defendant, especially where those comments are speculative. Notifying the public that a person who was the subject of a manhunt is one thing. Speculating about their motives and background in another.

We have been watching MAGA government officials spread rumors for days now. Why was that ok but now all of a sudden it’s not?

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a video of the disrespectful carrying.

Our tax dollars spent to transport a civilian?? Getting weirder and weirder

This is absolutely outrageous. I cannot believe they used Air Force Two for this.

Bodies are transported in caskets in FedEx and UPS air cargo planes every day. He can ride with the mail order packages of printer toner and fake rubber dogsh!t, where he belongs

I am thrilled that he was transported by AF 2. He is very deserving of it.
And you might want to take a break from social media and consider what kind of person you are.

DP. Only AF2? Why not AF1?

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FYI Mom — I hate when you leave your trash out, does NOT equate to, I hate you.

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Anonymous wrote:We need to hear more about this suspect in custody, ASAP. The longer they wait, the more conspiracy theories will flourish, and groups of people will be targeted in retaliation.

No

That’s not how it works at all.

Unclear why America needs to broadcast all its court cases, military strategies, and investigations.
Most countries do not whatsoever.

It’s an investigation and trial in court. Death penalty. They will get the details, not you.

Then why even announce that a suspect is in custody?

So the tips can stop and people can be relieved a gunman murderer is not at large.

I don’t think you know what a “suspect” is. Court Jester Patel already caught and released 2. (He doesn’t know what a suspect is either. He calls them “subjects”.)

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Anonymous wrote:For those questioning all the media coverage, it’s the first time an American has been publicly assassinated in the US for their political beliefs SINCE 1968. It’s a big deal.

Uh you’re forgetting the two legislators in MN.

That was not a public assassination. It took place in a private home.

What difference does THAT make?

Public assassinations tend to have a greater impact than private ones.

Public assassinations occur in front of witnesses or are captured by media, which amplifies the shock. The public setting turns the act into a spectacle, symbolizing a direct attack on shared values or leadership, which resonates widely and instantly. Private killings lack this immediate, communal exposure.

A public killing violates the sense of safety in shared spaces, making it feel like an attack on the public itself. Private assassinations feel more isolated, limiting the visceral sense of collective threat.

Hence the media coverage and why many are feeling this event deeply. It’s the first political assassination the public has witnessed in the US since 1968.

Correct. It’s terrorism as well

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Did the secretary issue a similar statement for the Hortmans?

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.

If you had an 18 year old boy he would have heard of him. My college freshman said the killing was all his team talked about at practice yesterday. The team is a mix of conservative and liberal kids and opinions on Kirk ranged from adoration to disgust. He said they had a respectful discussion, which gave me great hope.

I'm struggling with adoration of hate and why people who were the targets of Kirk's hate need to be respectful.

Bingo. And there are some genuine victims of Kirk's iniatives and ideologies. It's not like Kirk had any respect for them.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.

If you had an 18 year old boy he would have heard of him. My college freshman said the killing was all his team talked about at practice yesterday. The team is a mix of conservative and liberal kids and opinions on Kirk ranged from adoration to disgust. He said they had a respectful discussion, which gave me great hope.

I'm struggling with adoration of hate and why people who were the targets of Kirk's hate need to be respectful.

What people or individuals were targeted of “Kirk’s hate”? When did he said he hated person XYZ or a group of people abc?

Or did he said he hates crime? Or murderers? Or hates the lack of morals out there?

What did he say he hated exactly? A thing? A concept? A proper noun person? A group of benign people? A country?

He said he wouldn’t feel comfortable with a Black pilot, no? Kind of hate adjacent.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a video of the disrespectful carrying.

Our tax dollars spent to transport a civilian?? Getting weirder and weirder

This is absolutely outrageous. I cannot believe they used Air Force Two for this.

Bodies are transported in caskets in FedEx and UPS air cargo planes every day. He can ride with the mail order packages of printer toner and fake rubber dogsh!t, where he belongs

I am thrilled that he was transported by AF 2. He is very deserving of it.
And you might want to take a break from social media and consider what kind of person you are.

DP. Only AF2? Why not AF1?

Trump is deathly ill. He can’t be out in public like JD. He can only sit at his desk motionless to provide the framing for AI videos.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:We need to hear more about this suspect in custody, ASAP. The longer they wait, the more conspiracy theories will flourish, and groups of people will be targeted in retaliation.

No

That’s not how it works at all.

Unclear why America needs to broadcast all its court cases, military strategies, and investigations.
Most countries do not whatsoever.

It’s an investigation and trial in court. Death penalty. They will get the details, not you.

Then why even announce that a suspect is in custody?

So the tips can stop and people can be relieved a gunman murderer is not at large.

I don’t think you know what a “suspect” is. Court Jester Patel already caught and released 2. (He doesn’t know what a suspect is either. He calls them “subjects”.)

And the actual investigators called them “persons of interest” and asked the public not to treat them like suspects.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.

If you had an 18 year old boy he would have heard of him. My college freshman said the killing was all his team talked about at practice yesterday. The team is a mix of conservative and liberal kids and opinions on Kirk ranged from adoration to disgust. He said they had a respectful discussion, which gave me great hope.

I'm struggling with adoration of hate and why people who were the targets of Kirk's hate need to be respectful.

What people or individuals were targeted of “Kirk’s hate”? When did he said he hated person XYZ or a group of people abc?

Or did he said he hates crime? Or murderers? Or hates the lack of morals out there?

What did he say he hated exactly? A thing? A concept? A proper noun person? A group of benign people? A country?

He said abortion was murder, so there's millions of murderers out here according to him. Why don't you try to argue that people do not hate on murderers.