Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:We need to hear more about this suspect in custody, ASAP. The longer they wait, the more conspiracy theories will flourish, and groups of people will be targeted in retaliation.

No

That’s not how it works at all.

Unclear why America needs to broadcast all its court cases, military strategies, and investigations.
Most countries do not whatsoever.

It’s an investigation and trial in court. Death penalty. They will get the details, not you.

Then why even announce that a suspect is in custody?

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/rule_3_8_special_responsibilities_of_a_prosecutor/

See part f. To protect the integrity of a criminal case, a prosecutor and law enforcement should refrain from making unnecessary comments about a criminal defendant, especially where those comments are speculative. Notifying the public that a person who was the subject of a manhunt is one thing. Speculating about their motives and background in another.

We have been watching MAGA government officials spread rumors for days now. Why was that ok but now all of a sudden it’s not?

It’s always OK if a Republican does it. Anyway, why didn’t Democrats stop them?

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Anonymous wrote:The way MAGA is exploiting this to promote mass violence against totally unrelated people like HBCUs and transgender people, and persecuting people for acknowledging Kirk’s own public advocacy about 2nd Amendment, it’s looking more and more like a false flag operation.

HBCUs are on lockdown because of the threats. Republicans are so reckless with their rhetoric. Somehow Charlie Kirk getting killed means that black people must have something to do with it causes threats to be made.

Republicans don't sit here and say that you are not violent when Trump is out hear blaming woke liberals causing chaos.

I think the threats to HBCUs were caused by the murder of the Ukrainian girl in Charlotte - not the Charlie Kirk shooting. Everything about America today seems unhinged this week.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.

If you had an 18 year old boy he would have heard of him. My college freshman said the killing was all his team talked about at practice yesterday. The team is a mix of conservative and liberal kids and opinions on Kirk ranged from adoration to disgust. He said they had a respectful discussion, which gave me great hope.

I'm struggling with adoration of hate and why people who were the targets of Kirk's hate need to be respectful.

Unlike you, there was no hate demonstrated by Kirk. He was respectful and accepting of all kinds of people. Watch some of his interviews and debates. You may not agree with him, but he was never hateful.

While he usually had a civil tone, he was not accepting of lgbt people. NP

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.

If you had an 18 year old boy he would have heard of him. My college freshman said the killing was all his team talked about at practice yesterday. The team is a mix of conservative and liberal kids and opinions on Kirk ranged from adoration to disgust. He said they had a respectful discussion, which gave me great hope.

I'm struggling with adoration of hate and why people who were the targets of Kirk's hate need to be respectful.

Unlike you, there was no hate demonstrated by Kirk. He was respectful and accepting of all kinds of people. Watch some of his interviews and debates. You may not agree with him, but he was never hateful.

LOL. So if I say women shouldn't vote or blacks are unqualified for jobs but I say it with a smile that makes it okay? Anyway, suspect in custody let's get back to the Epstein Files.

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Anonymous wrote:For those questioning all the media coverage, it’s the first time an American has been publicly assassinated in the US for their political beliefs SINCE 1968. It’s a big deal.

Uh you’re forgetting the two legislators in MN.

That was not a public assassination. It took place in a private home.

What difference does THAT make?

Public assassinations tend to have a greater impact than private ones.

Public assassinations occur in front of witnesses or are captured by media, which amplifies the shock. The public setting turns the act into a spectacle, symbolizing a direct attack on shared values or leadership, which resonates widely and instantly. Private killings lack this immediate, communal exposure.

A public killing violates the sense of safety in shared spaces, making it feel like an attack on the public itself. Private assassinations feel more isolated, limiting the visceral sense of collective threat.

Hence the media coverage and why many are feeling this event deeply. It’s the first political assassination the public has witnessed in the US since 1968.

While, I abhor Kirk’s “ideology” I agree that this is a different category than gun violence. It was an assassination. But what happens if it turns out that his killer is a right wing white Christian nationalist? How does that change the narrative?

Oh, I put ideology and “” because anyone who followed Kirk knows he didn’t have an ideology. He was a Shapeshifter and a grifter.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.

My college teens had never heard of him, when he was shot, they were told by friends that “he promotes gun violence and says horrific things”
So I guess it depends on who/where you are

My high school teen asked me about him last week so I explained scamming via 990s and explained that he's basically a con artist with rizz.

Face it, MOST “internet influencer” or “podcasters” never get traction and are drop out scam artists. Pushing cosmetics, pushing their personal option, pushing their Huak Tuan viral event for five mins.

Then there are the talented people who use them for civil discourse (Kirk) or broadening others horizons (Kelsey bros).

If you can’t tell the difference you’re not listening

I work in the Influencer and podcasting world, and have worked with people like Kirk.

There’s nothing talented about them. What they do is 100% understand the game, which is to be as controversial as possible to get views and virality. When we train new clients, we train them how to speak in ways that are triggering and leave no nuance/room for actual discourse. We also know to pick out debate opponents who will also be triggering in some way - dumb, LGBTQ+, something that will cause the internet to gang up on them and side with the Influencer.

It’s very hard for me to empathize with Kirk because when you get into that world, and over time you become more and more extreme to get more and more views, you know exactly what you’re signing up for. Everyone I’ve worked with has received death threats, had their homes broken into, etc. The women I know who do Only Fans basically live in fortresses because there are so many attempts to harm them.

I’m not gonna celebrate his death, but I’m not going to pretend he was out there doing God’s work. He had extensive training in how to go viral, and that was the motivation behind his content. If cuddling puppies would have made him money, believe me, he would have been doing that instead.

And if you don’t believe me, pick your favorite podcaster/influencer and scroll back on their timeline 10+ years. You’ll see that most start as fairly balanced and nuanced, and over time become more and more extreme because that’s what they need to do to get views. That one chick, Pearl whatever - she started with giving financial advice, nobody watched it, so she started with the whole weird anti-feminism thing (despite her not even following her own advice).

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Anonymous wrote:My parents are who I go to for opinions of the non-perpetually online and here is my mother’s take, which I think was spot on:

“All the news was talking about was this guy that was killed yesterday, like the whole time. Who is this guy anyway? Kids are being killed every day, let’s care about that, not some stupid YouTube guy. I don’t know what’s going on with NBC, I’m going to stop watching if this is what the coverage is like.”

Essentially my mother honed in on how the media is desperately flailing to make people care about Charlie Kirk more than the dozens of children dying every day due to gun violence.

He wasn’t just some youtube guy - he founded a movement. Don't go to the clueless for advice.

When you call a nonprofit a “movement“ you sound culty.

We really need to figure out why white people in America at this moment in time are so desperate for a cult savior. Is it just the pressure of not being born at the apex of society anymore? Like, they are kind of lost because they realize that being born White doesn’t award them any special powers?

White culture is in shambles and people are looking for a community. White people are not allowed to view other white people as their community in the same way that latinos or AA or Asians because racism. That leaves a void. Nature abhors a vacuum.

I mean, this is BS. We have Scottish walks, hughland games, Irish heritage parades, October festivals and German celebrations, Italian celebrations.

Heck my grandma was Dutch and we all wore our orange shirts and watched soccer together.

We also have Appalachian culture, Southern culture, white Portland culture.

There's plenty to find. Now if you start talking about white pride, sure I'm going to side eye you. But you attend an Irish parade or do a debutante ball? No problem.

Most white people in the USA are completely disconnected from their native culture. Obviously you don’t see the more stable Scottish, Irish or German ethnic groups committing these acts, do you? That’s because they have a strong cultural foundation and are not as susceptible to influence. Exactly what I described earlier. It’s right there for you to see. There is no unified white American identity in the way that all other groups have. I agree that it’s for legitimate reasons but that doesn’t change the outcome. We need to find and allow for a healthy white identity that young white men can latch onto or else we will continue to have lost young men turn to demagogues for their culture needs.

Sorry you think if they were more connected to their roots in the Irish Republican Army or the National Socialists of Germany, they’d be less violent. Brilliant take.


So, you know, white boys could latch onto their identity as AMERICANS, in a nation of immigrants and their descendants, instead of being insanely racist. They can even celebrate a little genocide from 200 years ago if they want, as long as they do it subtly.

So then you just made more racist accusations. Wake up. Just listen to yourself. Should black people or Latinos also latch onto their identity as AMERICANS or are you proposing different rules for different racial groups? Ignorance.

Yes, black peoples and Latinos should latch only their identity as Americans. What is wrong with you?

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Anonymous wrote:My parents are who I go to for opinions of the non-perpetually online and here is my mother’s take, which I think was spot on:

“All the news was talking about was this guy that was killed yesterday, like the whole time. Who is this guy anyway? Kids are being killed every day, let’s care about that, not some stupid YouTube guy. I don’t know what’s going on with NBC, I’m going to stop watching if this is what the coverage is like.”

Essentially my mother honed in on how the media is desperately flailing to make people care about Charlie Kirk more than the dozens of children dying every day due to gun violence.

He wasn’t just some youtube guy - he founded a movement. Don't go to the clueless for advice.

When you call a nonprofit a “movement“ you sound culty.

We really need to figure out why white people in America at this moment in time are so desperate for a cult savior. Is it just the pressure of not being born at the apex of society anymore? Like, they are kind of lost because they realize that being born White doesn’t award them any special powers?

White culture is in shambles and people are looking for a community. White people are not allowed to view other white people as their community in the same way that latinos or AA or Asians because racism. That leaves a void. Nature abhors a vacuum.

I mean, this is BS. We have Scottish walks, hughland games, Irish heritage parades, October festivals and German celebrations, Italian celebrations.

Heck my grandma was Dutch and we all wore our orange shirts and watched soccer together.

We also have Appalachian culture, Southern culture, white Portland culture.

There's plenty to find. Now if you start talking about white pride, sure I'm going to side eye you. But you attend an Irish parade or do a debutante ball? No problem.

Most white people in the USA are completely disconnected from their native culture. Obviously you don’t see the more stable Scottish, Irish or German ethnic groups committing these acts, do you? That’s because they have a strong cultural foundation and are not as susceptible to influence. Exactly what I described earlier. It’s right there for you to see. There is no unified white American identity in the way that all other groups have. I agree that it’s for legitimate reasons but that doesn’t change the outcome. We need to find and allow for a healthy white identity that young white men can latch onto or else we will continue to have lost young men turn to demagogues for their culture needs.

Sorry you think if they were more connected to their roots in the Irish Republican Army or the National Socialists of Germany, they’d be less violent. Brilliant take.


So, you know, white boys could latch onto their identity as AMERICANS, in a nation of immigrants and their descendants, instead of being insanely racist. They can even celebrate a little genocide from 200 years ago if they want, as long as they do it subtly.

So then you just made more racist accusations. Wake up. Just listen to yourself. Should black people or Latinos also latch onto their identity as AMERICANS or are you proposing different rules for different racial groups? Ignorance.

Yes, black peoples and Latinos should latch only their identity as Americans. What is wrong with you?

Latch onto.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.

If you had an 18 year old boy he would have heard of him. My college freshman said the killing was all his team talked about at practice yesterday. The team is a mix of conservative and liberal kids and opinions on Kirk ranged from adoration to disgust. He said they had a respectful discussion, which gave me great hope.

I'm struggling with adoration of hate and why people who were the targets of Kirk's hate need to be respectful.

Unlike you, there was no hate demonstrated by Kirk. He was respectful and accepting of all kinds of people. Watch some of his interviews and debates. You may not agree with him, but he was never hateful.

What do you mean by "unlike you"? How is cheering someone on to post bail for Paul Pelosi's attacker and insinuating that Pelosi was gay as "respectful and accepting of all kinds of people"? How is saying that black women are too stupid to get jobs on their own so employers have to "steal them" from white men as being "never hateful"?

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.

If you had an 18 year old boy he would have heard of him. My college freshman said the killing was all his team talked about at practice yesterday. The team is a mix of conservative and liberal kids and opinions on Kirk ranged from adoration to disgust. He said they had a respectful discussion, which gave me great hope.

I'm struggling with adoration of hate and why people who were the targets of Kirk's hate need to be respectful.

Unlike you, there was no hate demonstrated by Kirk. He was respectful and accepting of all kinds of people. Watch some of his interviews and debates. You may not agree with him, but he was never hateful.

He said Sheila Jackson Lee, Michelle Obama and Kentanji Brown Jackson were all diversity hires who lacked the brain processing power to achieve their positions on merit and instead had to steal spots from white people. You and I have vastly different ideas of what it means to be respectful.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.

If you had an 18 year old boy he would have heard of him. My college freshman said the killing was all his team talked about at practice yesterday. The team is a mix of conservative and liberal kids and opinions on Kirk ranged from adoration to disgust. He said they had a respectful discussion, which gave me great hope.

I'm struggling with adoration of hate and why people who were the targets of Kirk's hate need to be respectful.

What people or individuals were targeted of “Kirk’s hate”? When did he said he hated person XYZ or a group of people abc?

Or did he said he hates crime? Or murderers? Or hates the lack of morals out there?

What did he say he hated exactly? A thing? A concept? A proper noun person? A group of benign people? A country?

I’m going to keep saying this until one of you Kirk fans actually addresses it, because you keep conveniently ignoring it. His organization maintained a “Professor Watch List” website to publicly doxx professors he didn’t agree with. What is that if not targeting? Professors on that list have been subjected to death threats and in some cases have needed security to do their jobs. Stop glossing over this just because it doesn’t fit what you want to say about the guy.

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Anonymous wrote:My parents are who I go to for opinions of the non-perpetually online and here is my mother’s take, which I think was spot on:

“All the news was talking about was this guy that was killed yesterday, like the whole time. Who is this guy anyway? Kids are being killed every day, let’s care about that, not some stupid YouTube guy. I don’t know what’s going on with NBC, I’m going to stop watching if this is what the coverage is like.”

Essentially my mother honed in on how the media is desperately flailing to make people care about Charlie Kirk more than the dozens of children dying every day due to gun violence.

He wasn’t just some youtube guy - he founded a movement. Don't go to the clueless for advice.

When you call a nonprofit a “movement“ you sound culty.

We really need to figure out why white people in America at this moment in time are so desperate for a cult savior. Is it just the pressure of not being born at the apex of society anymore? Like, they are kind of lost because they realize that being born White doesn’t award them any special powers?

White culture is in shambles and people are looking for a community. White people are not allowed to view other white people as their community in the same way that latinos or AA or Asians because racism. That leaves a void. Nature abhors a vacuum.

I mean, this is BS. We have Scottish walks, hughland games, Irish heritage parades, October festivals and German celebrations, Italian celebrations.

Heck my grandma was Dutch and we all wore our orange shirts and watched soccer together.

We also have Appalachian culture, Southern culture, white Portland culture.

There's plenty to find. Now if you start talking about white pride, sure I'm going to side eye you. But you attend an Irish parade or do a debutante ball? No problem.

Most white people in the USA are completely disconnected from their native culture. Obviously you don’t see the more stable Scottish, Irish or German ethnic groups committing these acts, do you? That’s because they have a strong cultural foundation and are not as susceptible to influence. Exactly what I described earlier. It’s right there for you to see. There is no unified white American identity in the way that all other groups have. I agree that it’s for legitimate reasons but that doesn’t change the outcome. We need to find and allow for a healthy white identity that young white men can latch onto or else we will continue to have lost young men turn to demagogues for their culture needs.

Sorry you think if they were more connected to their roots in the Irish Republican Army or the National Socialists of Germany, they’d be less violent. Brilliant take.


So, you know, white boys could latch onto their identity as AMERICANS, in a nation of immigrants and their descendants, instead of being insanely racist. They can even celebrate a little genocide from 200 years ago if they want, as long as they do it subtly.

I think a big part of the problem in the US is that we kept up segregation for too long and didn’t make enough effort to purposely mix people up. It was resisted through redlining, and shutting public schools down. We aren’t even 100 years out from desegregation. Other countries in the Caribbean and South America that had slave trade and immigration have had a much longer period of time to merge into one culture.

Diversity, dispersity.

America pre 1980s was a melting pot of baseball and soccer games outside with all languages, creeds, countries, generations.

But 1990s on it was enclaves, failed multiculturalism, sanctuary cities, ESOL and Touch 1 for languages, etc.

Multiculturalism enclaves failed here and failed in UK and europe. No one gives two F’s about where they moved to except to recreate their homeland here and remit $$$ billions back there as well.

So touch 1 for English is the reason white people don’t go outside anymore?

It is not immigrants’ fault that the white majority is dysfunctional. The dysfunction is the product of hundreds of years of racism and the paranoia and selfishness that follows through that. Instead of seeking out community the white majority seeks out special privilege and this is the result. Nobody is chaining white people to their Fox News tvs and telling them they can’t play soccer outside- that’s a choice they’re making.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.

If you had an 18 year old boy he would have heard of him. My college freshman said the killing was all his team talked about at practice yesterday. The team is a mix of conservative and liberal kids and opinions on Kirk ranged from adoration to disgust. He said they had a respectful discussion, which gave me great hope.

I'm struggling with adoration of hate and why people who were the targets of Kirk's hate need to be respectful.

What people or individuals were targeted of “Kirk’s hate”? When did he said he hated person XYZ or a group of people abc?

Or did he said he hates crime? Or murderers? Or hates the lack of morals out there?

What did he say he hated exactly? A thing? A concept? A proper noun person? A group of benign people? A country?

He said he wouldn’t feel comfortable with a Black pilot, no? Kind of hate adjacent.

Here are some nice quotes:

"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified." (January 23, 2024, The Charlie Kirk Show)

"If I'm dealing with somebody in customer service who's a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?" (January 3, 2024, The Charlie Kirk Show)

Speaking about several prominent Black women, Kirk stated, "You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously." (July 13, 2023, The Charlie Kirk Show)

Kirk has also made claims that "prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people," and that this is "a fact" that is "happening more and more." (May 19, 2023, The Charlie Kirk Show)

Referring to the "great replacement strategy," Kirk stated that it is "well under way every single day in our southern border" and is a "strategy to replace white rural America with something different." (March 1, 2024, The Charlie Kirk Show)

In comments about immigration from India, Kirk said, "America does not need more visas for people from India. Perhaps no form of legal immigration has so displaced American workers as those from India." (September 1, 2025, on his X account)

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Anonymous wrote:We need to hear more about this suspect in custody, ASAP. The longer they wait, the more conspiracy theories will flourish, and groups of people will be targeted in retaliation.

No

That’s not how it works at all.

Unclear why America needs to broadcast all its court cases, military strategies, and investigations.
Most countries do not whatsoever.

It’s an investigation and trial in court. Death penalty. They will get the details, not you.

Then why even announce that a suspect is in custody?

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/rule_3_8_special_responsibilities_of_a_prosecutor/

See part f. To protect the integrity of a criminal case, a prosecutor and law enforcement should refrain from making unnecessary comments about a criminal defendant, especially where those comments are speculative. Notifying the public that a person who was the subject of a manhunt is one thing. Speculating about their motives and background in another.

We have been watching MAGA government officials spread rumors for days now. Why was that ok but now all of a sudden it’s not?

Have we? I haven’t seen anyone in government spreading rumors, beyond that weird summary leak from ATF.

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Anonymous wrote:Over and over again, the motive points to Israel

He stepped out of line with Israel.

Bigot much?
I can't see how jumping to "maybe the jews did it" this early with such little information is anything but bigoted.

He himself said he feared Israel might kill him. So this isn't about me or "bigotry." Try to keep up and pay better attention.

Most of the world is against Israel right now. This guy's single voice isn't worth a mossad operation. The Epstein angle on the other hand....

I really don’t understand the Epstein angle. It makes you guys sound crazy.

Then your being willfully ignorant that the most powerful man in the entire world is under threat of being canceled due to his friendship with a known pedophile.

But Charlie Kirk wouldn’t be the one to kill. Who was he? I don’t even know. That is how influential Charlie Kirk was. Sorry but he wasn’t important enough to assassinate.

Yes he is because he was the one who brought up the topic, when he called for the release of all government files related to Jeffrey Epstein.

But who was listening to him other than radical right wing white young white males? Who else knew of his existence really?

I was aware of Kirk and his hate machine, but I didn't follow him on SM, etc. I think there are a number of Dems who were similar to me - knew about Kirk, TPUSA, etc, but didn't track him on a daily basis unless that was part of their work brief.

I had never heard of him but my teens definitely had. They texted me immediately upon the news and I was like “who?” I was surprised because they are not consumers of right wing media but they said he has a big present on progressive feeds as well, because progressives are often dunking on him, making fun of how bad his arguments are, etc.
I’m very sorry this man was killed by some crazy person and wish that crazy people in this country did not have access to such guns. But I don’t see why we are treating him like an American hero.