The White Lotus season 2

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Anonymous wrote:Golden Globe noms out, only JC, Aubrey Plaza, and F Murray Abraham recognized. Surprised Sabrina Impacciatore wasn't nom'd. Not surprised Fahy wasn't nom'd, only because it was really just one standout scene in the finale.


I'm surprised on Fahy - I thought she had way more outstanding scenes than just that. The whole casual calling Cam from the palazzo and then explaining she and Cam both play games. Her slight freakout the next morning when she tells Harper she was really high and tries to minimize what she said. And she had a similar reaction when Harper told her she thought something happened with Ethan and Cam - before she turned as hard as nails. She was masterful in portraying a woman who is constantly working on keeping her mask from slipping, and just when it does, catching herself and putting it right back on.


+1 her scenes stuck out the most to me this season


Agree

Plaza played the same sarcastic syndicalism role as parks and rec. and all my teenagers. It’s not difficult.


Bingo, she's literally playing herself, down to the dubious Puerto Rican roots. But so many nearly and middle aged millennial women "identify" with her, so they fangirl her. They are also *so* sarcastic and witty, so they rationalize her character cheating on her husband with his college bully as nbd.


And my god do they all hate a happy pretty girl, with a vengeance! It is your typical RBF (resting b@tch face) poster that thinks she’s more intelligent and “worthwhile” than these women that men love. They can’t admit they’d kill for someone to take care of them and show some affection. They are in sexless marriages with men that won’t have sex with them and dream of (if not actually) banging OW’s husbands…kind of like Ethan sticking it to Cam-to get even. It’s their way of getting back at every popular cheerleader/homecoming Queen or nice girl from high school that guys liked.


You nailed it. Like when Harper called Cameron an idiot. Even though she just had a quickie with him, she deluded herself into thinking she’s smarter than he is. Cameron is a Yale graduate. Presumably a multi-millionaire financier. Happily married, SAHM wife and children (the cheating is just empty calories, he clearly loves his wife). The idiot douchebag who set out and successfully conquered her a few days after meeting her. Yep, he’s an idiot. But the resting b**** face sarcastic attorney in a sexless unhappy marriage, successfully brainwashed by bogus NY Times, NPR, and MSNBC hysteria, and wasting what little is left of her fertility extorting corps for sexual harassment settlements — she is totally not an idiot.


I think that you totally missed the writer(s)’ intent, lol. You really think their point was to stick it to educated, well-read, professional women and pump up pretty, pleasant wives? The writer(s) would probably be horrified (or perhaps amused) by your simplistic take.


What gives you the idea Harper was "educated and well read" vis a vis Daphne? Daphne seemed far savvier and measured than snarky teenager Harper (who is actually in her late 30s). What you seem to be suggesting is Daphne is dumb because she's classically gorgeous, in other words beauty x brains are inversely proportional? That's a very sexist and retrograde stereotype -- and a well-worn cope by less attractive people. Reading leftist blogs and watching global warming documentaries on netflix doesn't make you smart. Nor does forgoing children to pursue a bottom feeding legal career. To the contrary, actually.


Daphne literally said she doesn’t watch the news or read, and enjoys trashy reality tv. Sure, she may be “savvy,” and there are other good things about her- she’s fun, loving, and seems like a good mom. but I don’t think there’s any debate that she wouldn’t pride herself on being well read.


You're slipping in misinfo. They clearly read, Cam is a successful and presumably licensed Wall Street shark who graduated from Yale, likely passed the Series 7, and they traveled with books, hence Cam grabbing one as a prop when caught up in the hotel room. And trashy reality TV is no lower rung than the pointless shouting matches on MSNBC and CNN. Obsessively watching or not watching the hysteric mainstream news doesn't suggest anything about intelligence. I'd argue Cam and Daphne were far smarter for not being brainwashed by it, while Harper was so duped by the propaganda she's delaying pregnancy and she's now considered a geriatric and high-risk.


A series 7! Wow!
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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. The second season was such a letdown after the first one! If you take out the spooky sound track, it's just a bunch of people barely saying anything. Not a fan!


I thought the 2nd season was better than the first. I liked the first but the 2nd was even more interesting and intriguing.


+1. I enjoyed the first season, but didn't find it as addictive as this season. I found the drama with the daughter and her friend/stolen bracelet to be boring and a little unbelievable. The Molly Shannon appearance was pure gold though. I don't think this season had that, not even with Tom Hollander. I was way more into the fourple storyline the whole way though this season, and there weren't any characters I could have done without.
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Anonymous wrote:Really loved season number two. I was going back-and-forth on who were going to be the victims and the aggressors the entire time. I will say that the most unbelievable part of the entire show is that Harper, as a senior associate, never once mentioned having to check her email. Otherwise, *chef’s kiss*. Can’t wait for season 3!


That's an astute observation. She rides Ethan for being chained to work but doesn't mention work once. Maybe she's not actually a star attorney at her firm. Maybe she's not successful at all and that's why she's so combative and edgy. Insecurity.


I need to go back and re-watch the part where they talk about Harper's work. I remember the "star at her firm" line but I thought they also mentioned a non-profit.

While I wouldn't describe Harper as bubbly or pleasant I found her much less combative that I'd expect her to be when you have a guy like Cameron going off about sexual harassment. I felt like her "You're an idiot" was more a reaction to hearing his BS all week versus newfound intimacy, but Ethan obviously knows her best.
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Anonymous wrote:The idiot remark at breakfast was just a frustrated mid-wit lawyer who had just been conquered by the cunning alpha male. She’s seething that he won.


She was being playful and relaxed.

You really watched a different show from the rest of us.


Did he not make his motives perfectly clear from the very get-go when he dropped trou on the fist day in her hotel room? By the fourth day he was in her pants. He won.


Again, you really watched a different show from the rest of us.

The point is that by being corrupted and corruptable - they all sort of won and they all sort of lost. Cam is raising someone else's baby as his own. Daphne is crushed every time she's forced to confront her husband's infidelity. And yet they are playful and flirty, and clearly bonded to each other. Harper and Ethan were more serious, and more unhappy, in the beginning. But after adopting their rich friends' ways of living, they were re-bonded with each other, happier together, and talking about going to the Maldives with these friends again. Yet they'd also lost their morals and their fidelity, in exchange for this newfound happiness and rekindled attraction. They all won, they all lost.


And this is why I am rooting for divorced Harper in the Maldives (or wherever) in S3. Plleeasssee.
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Anonymous wrote:Really loved season number two. I was going back-and-forth on who were going to be the victims and the aggressors the entire time. I will say that the most unbelievable part of the entire show is that Harper, as a senior associate, never once mentioned having to check her email. Otherwise, *chef’s kiss*. Can’t wait for season 3!


That's an astute observation. She rides Ethan for being chained to work but doesn't mention work once. Maybe she's not actually a star attorney at her firm. Maybe she's not successful at all and that's why she's so combative and edgy. Insecurity.


I need to go back and re-watch the part where they talk about Harper's work. I remember the "star at her firm" line but I thought they also mentioned a non-profit.

While I wouldn't describe Harper as bubbly or pleasant I found her much less combative that I'd expect her to be when you have a guy like Cameron going off about sexual harassment. I felt like her "You're an idiot" was more a reaction to hearing his BS all week versus newfound intimacy, but Ethan obviously knows her best.


Ethan is a gullible pushover who fell into tech bubble money. He doesn’t know her best, the meek progressive boy can’t even get it up for her. Cameron knew what Harper (subconsciously) craved; pushback, flirtation, spice, assertiveness, unapologetic alpha male.
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Anonymous wrote:One thing folks raised was Harper being sexually frustrated and Ethan being a porn addict. But I do recall Ethan saying that Harper didn't like morning sex. I'm surely projecting a lot of my own shit onto this, but that instantly made me think Harper was the type of spouse who put a lot of rules on sex and only wanted to do it when the stars aligned to her satisfaction.

Yeah, she tried to initiate one of those mornings at the hotel, but it felt contrived on her part. (Unlike the morning sex she had with Cam or tried to have with him.)


Face-saving defense mechanism malarkey. Two childless 30-somethings in a sexless marriage is a dead marriage. Classic starter marriage divorce. They have to essentially become swingers to spice it up. How aspirational. Not.
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Anonymous wrote:The idiot remark at breakfast was just a frustrated mid-wit lawyer who had just been conquered by the cunning alpha male. She’s seething that he won.


She was being playful and relaxed.

You really watched a different show from the rest of us.


Did he not make his motives perfectly clear from the very get-go when he dropped trou on the fist day in her hotel room? By the fourth day he was in her pants. He won.


Again, you really watched a different show from the rest of us.

The point is that by being corrupted and corruptable - they all sort of won and they all sort of lost. Cam is raising someone else's baby as his own. Daphne is crushed every time she's forced to confront her husband's infidelity. And yet they are playful and flirty, and clearly bonded to each other. Harper and Ethan were more serious, and more unhappy, in the beginning. But after adopting their rich friends' ways of living, they were re-bonded with each other, happier together, and talking about going to the Maldives with these friends again. Yet they'd also lost their morals and their fidelity, in exchange for this newfound happiness and rekindled attraction. They all won, they all lost.


Ethan didn’t win anything, he was being played by all sides. He was a mark just like rich Tonya was in both seasons. Cam and Daph successfully orbited and corrupted him and Cam will manage his fortune. It’s inevitable. Harper won a baby, potentially, and prevented or at least postponed an imminent starter marriage divorce.
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Anonymous wrote:Golden Globe noms out, only JC, Aubrey Plaza, and F Murray Abraham recognized. Surprised Sabrina Impacciatore wasn't nom'd. Not surprised Fahy wasn't nom'd, only because it was really just one standout scene in the finale.


I'm surprised on Fahy - I thought she had way more outstanding scenes than just that. The whole casual calling Cam from the palazzo and then explaining she and Cam both play games. Her slight freakout the next morning when she tells Harper she was really high and tries to minimize what she said. And she had a similar reaction when Harper told her she thought something happened with Ethan and Cam - before she turned as hard as nails. She was masterful in portraying a woman who is constantly working on keeping her mask from slipping, and just when it does, catching herself and putting it right back on.


+1 her scenes stuck out the most to me this season


Agree

Plaza played the same sarcastic syndicalism role as parks and rec. and all my teenagers. It’s not difficult.


Bingo, she's literally playing herself, down to the dubious Puerto Rican roots. But so many nearly and middle aged millennial women "identify" with her, so they fangirl her. They are also *so* sarcastic and witty, so they rationalize her character cheating on her husband with his college bully as nbd.


And my god do they all hate a happy pretty girl, with a vengeance! It is your typical RBF (resting b@tch face) poster that thinks she’s more intelligent and “worthwhile” than these women that men love. They can’t admit they’d kill for someone to take care of them and show some affection. They are in sexless marriages with men that won’t have sex with them and dream of (if not actually) banging OW’s husbands…kind of like Ethan sticking it to Cam-to get even. It’s their way of getting back at every popular cheerleader/homecoming Queen or nice girl from high school that guys liked.


You nailed it. Like when Harper called Cameron an idiot. Even though she just had a quickie with him, she deluded herself into thinking she’s smarter than he is. Cameron is a Yale graduate. Presumably a multi-millionaire financier. Happily married, SAHM wife and children (the cheating is just empty calories, he clearly loves his wife). The idiot douchebag who set out and successfully conquered her a few days after meeting her. Yep, he’s an idiot. But the resting b**** face sarcastic attorney in a sexless unhappy marriage, successfully brainwashed by bogus NY Times, NPR, and MSNBC hysteria, and wasting what little is left of her fertility extorting corps for sexual harassment settlements — she is totally not an idiot.


I think that you totally missed the writer(s)’ intent, lol. You really think their point was to stick it to educated, well-read, professional women and pump up pretty, pleasant wives? The writer(s) would probably be horrified (or perhaps amused) by your simplistic take.


What gives you the idea Harper was "educated and well read" vis a vis Daphne? Daphne seemed far savvier and measured than snarky teenager Harper (who is actually in her late 30s). What you seem to be suggesting is Daphne is dumb because she's classically gorgeous, in other words beauty x brains are inversely proportional? That's a very sexist and retrograde stereotype -- and a well-worn cope by less attractive people. Reading leftist blogs and watching global warming documentaries on netflix doesn't make you smart. Nor does forgoing children to pursue a bottom feeding legal career. To the contrary, actually.


Daphne literally said she doesn’t watch the news or read, and enjoys trashy reality tv. Sure, she may be “savvy,” and there are other good things about her- she’s fun, loving, and seems like a good mom. but I don’t think there’s any debate that she wouldn’t pride herself on being well read.


You're slipping in misinfo. They clearly read, Cam is a successful and presumably licensed Wall Street shark who graduated from Yale, likely passed the Series 7, and they traveled with books, hence Cam grabbing one as a prop when caught up in the hotel room. And trashy reality TV is no lower rung than the pointless shouting matches on MSNBC and CNN. Obsessively watching or not watching the hysteric mainstream news doesn't suggest anything about intelligence. I'd argue Cam and Daphne were far smarter for not being brainwashed by it, while Harper was so duped by the propaganda she's delaying pregnancy and she's now considered a geriatric and high-risk.


For all we know, cam is a rich legacy who attended Yale because of legacy donor status who similarly benefited from family connections to land him a plum job at some hedge fund. Furthermore, I have a brilliant extremely successful brother in finance who is not well read- he is not into politics etc. just because someone is smart successful and rich (even by their own merit) it doesn’t mean they are intellectual or well read. Cam and daphne may be smart, but they are not particularly intellectual.
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Anonymous wrote:Really loved season number two. I was going back-and-forth on who were going to be the victims and the aggressors the entire time. I will say that the most unbelievable part of the entire show is that Harper, as a senior associate, never once mentioned having to check her email. Otherwise, *chef’s kiss*. Can’t wait for season 3!


That's an astute observation. She rides Ethan for being chained to work but doesn't mention work once. Maybe she's not actually a star attorney at her firm. Maybe she's not successful at all and that's why she's so combative and edgy. Insecurity.


No, it's because this is supposed to be an entertaining show, and most legal matters are shit boring. No one wants to see what lawyers do on TV, unless it's criminal cases or people getting it on with colleagues in the office after hours.
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Anonymous wrote:Golden Globe noms out, only JC, Aubrey Plaza, and F Murray Abraham recognized. Surprised Sabrina Impacciatore wasn't nom'd. Not surprised Fahy wasn't nom'd, only because it was really just one standout scene in the finale.


I'm surprised on Fahy - I thought she had way more outstanding scenes than just that. The whole casual calling Cam from the palazzo and then explaining she and Cam both play games. Her slight freakout the next morning when she tells Harper she was really high and tries to minimize what she said. And she had a similar reaction when Harper told her she thought something happened with Ethan and Cam - before she turned as hard as nails. She was masterful in portraying a woman who is constantly working on keeping her mask from slipping, and just when it does, catching herself and putting it right back on.


+1 her scenes stuck out the most to me this season


Agree

Plaza played the same sarcastic syndicalism role as parks and rec. and all my teenagers. It’s not difficult.


Bingo, she's literally playing herself, down to the dubious Puerto Rican roots. But so many nearly and middle aged millennial women "identify" with her, so they fangirl her. They are also *so* sarcastic and witty, so they rationalize her character cheating on her husband with his college bully as nbd.


And my god do they all hate a happy pretty girl, with a vengeance! It is your typical RBF (resting b@tch face) poster that thinks she’s more intelligent and “worthwhile” than these women that men love. They can’t admit they’d kill for someone to take care of them and show some affection. They are in sexless marriages with men that won’t have sex with them and dream of (if not actually) banging OW’s husbands…kind of like Ethan sticking it to Cam-to get even. It’s their way of getting back at every popular cheerleader/homecoming Queen or nice girl from high school that guys liked.


You nailed it. Like when Harper called Cameron an idiot. Even though she just had a quickie with him, she deluded herself into thinking she’s smarter than he is. Cameron is a Yale graduate. Presumably a multi-millionaire financier. Happily married, SAHM wife and children (the cheating is just empty calories, he clearly loves his wife). The idiot douchebag who set out and successfully conquered her a few days after meeting her. Yep, he’s an idiot. But the resting b**** face sarcastic attorney in a sexless unhappy marriage, successfully brainwashed by bogus NY Times, NPR, and MSNBC hysteria, and wasting what little is left of her fertility extorting corps for sexual harassment settlements — she is totally not an idiot.


I think that you totally missed the writer(s)’ intent, lol. You really think their point was to stick it to educated, well-read, professional women and pump up pretty, pleasant wives? The writer(s) would probably be horrified (or perhaps amused) by your simplistic take.


What gives you the idea Harper was "educated and well read" vis a vis Daphne? Daphne seemed far savvier and measured than snarky teenager Harper (who is actually in her late 30s). What you seem to be suggesting is Daphne is dumb because she's classically gorgeous, in other words beauty x brains are inversely proportional? That's a very sexist and retrograde stereotype -- and a well-worn cope by less attractive people. Reading leftist blogs and watching global warming documentaries on netflix doesn't make you smart. Nor does forgoing children to pursue a bottom feeding legal career. To the contrary, actually.


Daphne literally said she doesn’t watch the news or read, and enjoys trashy reality tv. Sure, she may be “savvy,” and there are other good things about her- she’s fun, loving, and seems like a good mom. but I don’t think there’s any debate that she wouldn’t pride herself on being well read.


You're slipping in misinfo. They clearly read, Cam is a successful and presumably licensed Wall Street shark who graduated from Yale, likely passed the Series 7, and they traveled with books, hence Cam grabbing one as a prop when caught up in the hotel room. And trashy reality TV is no lower rung than the pointless shouting matches on MSNBC and CNN. Obsessively watching or not watching the hysteric mainstream news doesn't suggest anything about intelligence. I'd argue Cam and Daphne were far smarter for not being brainwashed by it, while Harper was so duped by the propaganda she's delaying pregnancy and she's now considered a geriatric and high-risk.


For all we know, cam is a rich legacy who attended Yale because of legacy donor status who similarly benefited from family connections to land him a plum job at some hedge fund. Furthermore, I have a brilliant extremely successful brother in finance who is not well read- he is not into politics etc. just because someone is smart successful and rich (even by their own merit) it doesn’t mean they are intellectual or well read. Cam and daphne may be smart, but they are not particularly intellectual.



Very few of my Ivy League classmates are intellectual in that sense. Most chose hyper-specialized careers that allow little time for other pursuits.
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Anonymous wrote:Harper's first time meeting Cam, he makes a pass at her getting naked while changing into swim trunks. Are there really folks on here who think she snuck off up to their hotel room while day drunk on the fourth day to "kiss"? She went up to that room to have raw sexual intercourse with Cam, period case closed. She later even got caught in the lie about the hat. How much more obvious can a writer be.


Actually, we know that Cam uses protection.


Oy vey you are naive. He uses condoms with prostitutes. He doesn’t walk around with a condom in his swim trunks drunk from ripping shots during the day.


It takes two seconds to get one from his room.


They were in his room anyhow. Shared door
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Anonymous wrote:Golden Globe noms out, only JC, Aubrey Plaza, and F Murray Abraham recognized. Surprised Sabrina Impacciatore wasn't nom'd. Not surprised Fahy wasn't nom'd, only because it was really just one standout scene in the finale.


I'm surprised on Fahy - I thought she had way more outstanding scenes than just that. The whole casual calling Cam from the palazzo and then explaining she and Cam both play games. Her slight freakout the next morning when she tells Harper she was really high and tries to minimize what she said. And she had a similar reaction when Harper told her she thought something happened with Ethan and Cam - before she turned as hard as nails. She was masterful in portraying a woman who is constantly working on keeping her mask from slipping, and just when it does, catching herself and putting it right back on.


+1 her scenes stuck out the most to me this season


Agree

Plaza played the same sarcastic syndicalism role as parks and rec. and all my teenagers. It’s not difficult.


Bingo, she's literally playing herself, down to the dubious Puerto Rican roots. But so many nearly and middle aged millennial women "identify" with her, so they fangirl her. They are also *so* sarcastic and witty, so they rationalize her character cheating on her husband with his college bully as nbd.


Oh, hey, Aubrey Plaza hater. You're still here, and still on this one? Cool.

I've never seen her in anything before, so it's funny you think I identify with her or I'm a fangirl. I'm just actually able to acknowledge that she discharged her acting responsibilities well in the show. And if you don't know the character's motivations for cheating, you weren't paying attention.


I don’t know you or anything.
I loved Parks & Rec but Plaza was cast to play herself in the role, just like she played herself in Parks and Rec.
Frankly it was a little jarring seeing her 15 years older w tons of foundation on, behaving the same as when she was 24.

I disagree with any acting nomination for the role of snarky teen. That’s a dime a dozen.

Agree with your theta that Fahy acted fantastically well on considerably more complex and nuanced character. Her emotional facial expressions alone are worth an award, then later in the tone and words said. Much more difficult than flapping your arms and monotonally saying”what’s going to happen with us?” With a stare down. I will give Harper character credit for asking the tough questions though. Not that it ever resulted in a real discussion.


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I tend to agree.

She was in a typecast role in order to play herself.
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Anonymous wrote:Really loved season number two. I was going back-and-forth on who were going to be the victims and the aggressors the entire time. I will say that the most unbelievable part of the entire show is that Harper, as a senior associate, never once mentioned having to check her email. Otherwise, *chef’s kiss*. Can’t wait for season 3!


That's an astute observation. She rides Ethan for being chained to work but doesn't mention work once. Maybe she's not actually a star attorney at her firm. Maybe she's not successful at all and that's why she's so combative and edgy. Insecurity.


Dude, have you ever searched for an employment attorney? Half the sites are ambulance chaser sites. It’s the easiest and least stressful field to get in to. That and family lawn is over populated with attorneys from all tiers of school.
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Anonymous wrote:Harper's first time meeting Cam, he makes a pass at her getting naked while changing into swim trunks. Are there really folks on here who think she snuck off up to their hotel room while day drunk on the fourth day to "kiss"? She went up to that room to have raw sexual intercourse with Cam, period case closed. She later even got caught in the lie about the hat. How much more obvious can a writer be.


Actually, we know that Cam uses protection.


Oy vey you are naive. He uses condoms with prostitutes. He doesn’t walk around with a condom in his swim trunks drunk from ripping shots during the day.


It takes two seconds to get one from his room.


I can’t tell if you’re trolling or just thick? You think he has condoms in his wife’s room? Are you insane? The prostitute provided the one condom, it was in her purse with drugs and viagra. A drunken tryst like this amongst friends isn’t using a condom.


Sounds like you speak from personal experience.


If the condoms were in his room and protection was so important, the quickie romp would have taken place in there. No condom was used. Raw sex with the Fifty Shades of Grey unapologetic alpha male is what she craved.


I thought she would do anyone because in her mind her marriage was dead and she was going to file for divorce once back home.

The canoodling in the airport after 7 days of ignoring each out was quite the stretch. Esp for an intellectual like Harper.


The canoodling was after they had sex. The lack of sex was a big issue for them and they had it so they’re back on track. Of course, we know Ethan slept with Daphne etc but she doesn’t know that.
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Anonymous wrote:Golden Globe noms out, only JC, Aubrey Plaza, and F Murray Abraham recognized. Surprised Sabrina Impacciatore wasn't nom'd. Not surprised Fahy wasn't nom'd, only because it was really just one standout scene in the finale.


I'm surprised on Fahy - I thought she had way more outstanding scenes than just that. The whole casual calling Cam from the palazzo and then explaining she and Cam both play games. Her slight freakout the next morning when she tells Harper she was really high and tries to minimize what she said. And she had a similar reaction when Harper told her she thought something happened with Ethan and Cam - before she turned as hard as nails. She was masterful in portraying a woman who is constantly working on keeping her mask from slipping, and just when it does, catching herself and putting it right back on.


+1 her scenes stuck out the most to me this season


Agree

Plaza played the same sarcastic syndicalism role as parks and rec. and all my teenagers. It’s not difficult.


Bingo, she's literally playing herself, down to the dubious Puerto Rican roots. But so many nearly and middle aged millennial women "identify" with her, so they fangirl her. They are also *so* sarcastic and witty, so they rationalize her character cheating on her husband with his college bully as nbd.


And my god do they all hate a happy pretty girl, with a vengeance! It is your typical RBF (resting b@tch face) poster that thinks she’s more intelligent and “worthwhile” than these women that men love. They can’t admit they’d kill for someone to take care of them and show some affection. They are in sexless marriages with men that won’t have sex with them and dream of (if not actually) banging OW’s husbands…kind of like Ethan sticking it to Cam-to get even. It’s their way of getting back at every popular cheerleader/homecoming Queen or nice girl from high school that guys liked.


You nailed it. Like when Harper called Cameron an idiot. Even though she just had a quickie with him, she deluded herself into thinking she’s smarter than he is. Cameron is a Yale graduate. Presumably a multi-millionaire financier. Happily married, SAHM wife and children (the cheating is just empty calories, he clearly loves his wife). The idiot douchebag who set out and successfully conquered her a few days after meeting her. Yep, he’s an idiot. But the resting b**** face sarcastic attorney in a sexless unhappy marriage, successfully brainwashed by bogus NY Times, NPR, and MSNBC hysteria, and wasting what little is left of her fertility extorting corps for sexual harassment settlements — she is totally not an idiot.


I think that you totally missed the writer(s)’ intent, lol. You really think their point was to stick it to educated, well-read, professional women and pump up pretty, pleasant wives? The writer(s) would probably be horrified (or perhaps amused) by your simplistic take.


What gives you the idea Harper was "educated and well read" vis a vis Daphne? Daphne seemed far savvier and measured than snarky teenager Harper (who is actually in her late 30s). What you seem to be suggesting is Daphne is dumb because she's classically gorgeous, in other words beauty x brains are inversely proportional? That's a very sexist and retrograde stereotype -- and a well-worn cope by less attractive people. Reading leftist blogs and watching global warming documentaries on netflix doesn't make you smart. Nor does forgoing children to pursue a bottom feeding legal career. To the contrary, actually.


Daphne literally said she doesn’t watch the news or read, and enjoys trashy reality tv. Sure, she may be “savvy,” and there are other good things about her- she’s fun, loving, and seems like a good mom. but I don’t think there’s any debate that she wouldn’t pride herself on being well read.


You're slipping in misinfo. They clearly read, Cam is a successful and presumably licensed Wall Street shark who graduated from Yale, likely passed the Series 7, and they traveled with books, hence Cam grabbing one as a prop when caught up in the hotel room. And trashy reality TV is no lower rung than the pointless shouting matches on MSNBC and CNN. Obsessively watching or not watching the hysteric mainstream news doesn't suggest anything about intelligence. I'd argue Cam and Daphne were far smarter for not being brainwashed by it, while Harper was so duped by the propaganda she's delaying pregnancy and she's now considered a geriatric and high-risk.


It is you, brunch granny! So you took a break from SATC re-runs to find a different show to watch and completely miss the point of?
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