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There is a very strong suggestion of that in the scene with Harper. It's ambiguous, sure, but we are clearly supposed to think she's suggesting that - otherwise why give the description of the trainer right before showing a picture of the trainer - oh wait it's the kid - who matches the description exactly? The idea that we are supposed to understand it as a "metaphor" and when she says she sleeps with her trainer what she ACTUALLY means is that she really loves her kids (???) never made any sense. Then Cameron gets this extremely dark look when she summons him to chat with the kids. Despite the (sad) DCUM posts saying that every man hates FaceTiming his kids and Cameron is just a regular kid-hating Dad (  ), that scene strongly suggested that Cameron suspects the kids aren't his.
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Anonymous
+1. Exactly. That is how Daphne plays hide and seek with Cam. She's very sweet - Hon, come, you're such a good Dad come say I love you to your adorable offspring! Who can say no to that? Everything Daphne does is calculated to make her look sweet, somewhat ditzy and beyond suspicion. But she is the instigator of the fourple drama. What fun! |
Anonymous
IMO Fiji and Bali are the two locales with the most potential for incredible beauty/luxury and interplay with local population that has morphed itself to a service industry for the uber rich |
Anonymous
NP. The point is that, by saying how she really feels about Cam's rant, it signals to Ethan that Harper is now quite "familiar" with Cam, as Harper's normal mode of operation in such cases would be eye roll and trash the person later behind their back. So the point of all this is to show that something did in fact go down between Cam and Harper and now had no chance of convincing Ethan that it didn't. |
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Theo James agrees Cameron is a toxic ahole (maybe a sociopath), and that there's a decent chance one of his kids is not his, in this interview with Rolling Stone: https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/theo-james-on-hbo-the-white-lotus-season-2-finale-twists-aubrey-plaza-meghann-fahy-blond-kid-1234645618/
Also, I thought this assessment of the Cameron/Daphne relationship was interesting (and I think I basically agree), I've bolded the parts I think are most relevant: "But that was the thesis initially: how do you judge a relationship? Cameron and Daphne are deeply in love but there’s an open element to their relationship, and that may work for them, and who are we to judge that? Perhaps it’s a commentary on dating standards and what conventional relationships mean. On the other hand, if Daphne says to Ethan, oh, if Cameron and Harper may have done something come this way, and she and Ethan go and **** each other and potentially one of their children has a father that is unbeknownst to them, that is when it becomes problematic and that level of complication is unhealthy." It makes me think of a couple I met a while ago who are in an open marriage. At first I remember thinking "huh, they've really worked out something that works for them, good for them." And I still feel that way to some degree. But as I've gotten to know them better I've learned things about their arrangement that are kind of messed up. Like one of them has a diagnosed personality disorder that makes them extremely controlling, and one of the reasons for opening their marriage is that it allows that partner to maintain a controlling relationship with a different person and not try to control the spouse, which the spouse would not like and would be toxic to the marriage. On the one hand, impressive solution to a tricky issue! On the other hand, uh, that personality disorder manifests in more ways than one, and also, what about the person on the side who is being controlled, essentially absorbing the worst aspects of this person's personality to facilitate a healthier marriage? It's kind of effed, actually. That's how I view Daphne and Cameron. They are making it work and in some ways I admire it, but things they are doing to make it work are things I'm uncomfortable with on several levels, so there is nothing aspirational about their relationship in the end for me. |
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Sounds like the whole cast was hooking up and sleeping together during filming. Haileys Lizzo twerking impression was ok. Great for womankind. |
Anonymous
I don’t know you or anything. I loved Parks & Rec but Plaza was cast to play herself in the role, just like she played herself in Parks and Rec. Frankly it was a little jarring seeing her 15 years older w tons of foundation on, behaving the same as when she was 24. I disagree with any acting nomination for the role of snarky teen. That’s a dime a dozen. Agree with your theta that Fahy acted fantastically well on considerably more complex and nuanced character. Her emotional facial expressions alone are worth an award, then later in the tone and words said. Much more difficult than flapping your arms and monotonally saying”what’s going to happen with us?” With a stare down. I will give Harper character credit for asking the tough questions though. Not that it ever resulted in a real discussion. |
Anonymous
| Harper also had amazing facial expressions, and eating segments for that matter. And she came full circle- over it, to in it, to past it again. |
Anonymous
I found her 180 not believable. It wasn’t tied together, it was a big leap. And zero acting contributed to anything. She hates jocks, fin bros, womanizers, prostitution, people who don’t watch mass media, people who don’t read or vote, basically anyone who isn’t like her. Then she supposed gets so kissed at her husband and marriage, she does a shot at 10am and goes for him in the room. And texts her husband she’s up at the room? Then she’s instantly happy w her husband because he does a 180 and sits close to her smiling for the first time in forever. That’s beyond odd- bad writing and rushed. |
Anonymous
Same as Tahiti. Agree. Same laws as well. |
Anonymous
Harper's so sharp and deep... that she immediately fell for Cam's obvious pick-up artist (PUA) 101 negging. She wanted to be desired and conquered like all the college women Cam stole from Ethan. |
Anonymous
Oy vey you are naive. He uses condoms with prostitutes. He doesn’t walk around with a condom in his swim trunks drunk from ripping shots during the day. |
Anonymous
Nah, Ethan was right. It was a tell trying to deflect from the fact she went up stairs to f*** him. Which she confessed to after this. |
Anonymous
| The idiot remark at breakfast was just a frustrated mid-wit lawyer who had just been conquered by the cunning alpha male. She’s seething that he won. |
Anonymous
I thought the 2nd season was better than the first. I liked the first but the 2nd was even more interesting and intriguing. |