Biden's VP?

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^^ low blow *threat*
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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad you guys still care. Every day that passes with Donald in office I think how much more excited I am to vote for Biden/Literally Anyone.

Same boat. Outside of picking Warren which may alienate more conservative dems/independents, I don't think his pick will have any affect on his electability.

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I think Harris or Rice could also have a negative impact on electability.


+1. I’m astounded that anyone could give any kind of pause because someone’s racist/sexist/idiot mother says “there just is something I don’t like about Harris.” If you can’t even articulate what it is you don’t like about a person, while the alternative is voting for TRUMP where there are a thousand things you don’t like about him, I can’t even deal with you and you deserve another 4 years of Trump.


The Democrats need votes from new demographics. Additional voters from bougie folks in areas where they already have overwhelming majorities ain’t the formula.

Harris reeks of fraudulence:
-Democratic Party identity politics with nothing learned from BHO’s and HRC’s failures
-crappy public presence (her evasive laughter) when it most matters
-her career came from her horizontal mamboing

Start seeing through the Democrats’ conventional wisdom if you actually want to beat Trump!


She's a cynical politician who won't address her AG record and fails to address many issues head-on. I don't have a clue what she really believes in. Whole career law&order now suddenly BLM when little evidence of this as AG. Which is it--tell us! Now that I've seen it twice, her evasive laughter is indeed off-putting. But none of this would matter if she had policy chops. She doesn't and is deeply inarticulate when put on the spot about anything policy-related. She is charismatic, but only with rehearsed speeches. She can not flex when needed (again, I think, because the policy chops aren't really there). The thought of putting someone with zero foreign policy expertise, in particular, a heartbeat from a very old president is deeply concerning to me. And because many do perceive her as inauthentic, I don't believe swing voters will like her and she will negatively affect the ticket.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad you guys still care. Every day that passes with Donald in office I think how much more excited I am to vote for Biden/Literally Anyone.

Same boat. Outside of picking Warren which may alienate more conservative dems/independents, I don't think his pick will have any affect on his electability.

+1


I think Harris or Rice could also have a negative impact on electability.


+1. I’m astounded that anyone could give any kind of pause because someone’s racist/sexist/idiot mother says “there just is something I don’t like about Harris.” If you can’t even articulate what it is you don’t like about a person, while the alternative is voting for TRUMP where there are a thousand things you don’t like about him, I can’t even deal with you and you deserve another 4 years of Trump.


The Democrats need votes from new demographics. Additional voters from bougie folks in areas where they already have overwhelming majorities ain’t the formula.

Harris reeks of fraudulence:
-Democratic Party identity politics with nothing learned from BHO’s and HRC’s failures
-crappy public presence (her evasive laughter) when it most matters
-her career came from her horizontal mamboing

Start seeing through the Democrats’ conventional wisdom if you actually want to beat Trump!


She's a cynical politician who won't address her AG record and fails to address many issues head-on. I don't have a clue what she really believes in. Whole career law&order now suddenly BLM when little evidence of this as AG. Which is it--tell us! Now that I've seen it twice, her evasive laughter is indeed off-putting. But none of this would matter if she had policy chops. She doesn't and is deeply inarticulate when put on the spot about anything policy-related. She is charismatic, but only with rehearsed speeches. She can not flex when needed (again, I think, because the policy chops aren't really there). The thought of putting someone with zero foreign policy expertise, in particular, a heartbeat from a very old president is deeply concerning to me. And because many do perceive her as inauthentic, I don't believe swing voters will like her and she will negatively affect the ticket.


I posted much earlier on this thread that I saw Kamala and Ayanna Pressley do an Insta event together. Ayanna came incredibly well prepared, with all kinds of data at her fingertips. She didn't intend to but she ran circles around Kamala, who had nothing to contribute other than generic platitudes. People assume her prosecutorial skill means she'd be a great debater, but she faltered whenever she had to address policy in the presidential primary debates. This concerns me and I'd worry a lot if she's selected for the ticket. Nobody expected Pence to beat an experience pol like Tim Kaine in the debate, but he did. He was a radio host, is comfortable with public speaking, and contrary to what many assume about him, he is known to come very well prepared to congressional briefings (DH has had to meet with him and was surprised). I also think many are looking for competence not divisive rhetoric right now. It's great that Kamala is a fighter, but it becomes empty rhetoric if the substance isn't there.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m glad you guys still care. Every day that passes with Donald in office I think how much more excited I am to vote for Biden/Literally Anyone.

Same boat. Outside of picking Warren which may alienate more conservative dems/independents, I don't think his pick will have any affect on his electability.

+1


I think Harris or Rice could also have a negative impact on electability.


+1. I’m astounded that anyone could give any kind of pause because someone’s racist/sexist/idiot mother says “there just is something I don’t like about Harris.” If you can’t even articulate what it is you don’t like about a person, while the alternative is voting for TRUMP where there are a thousand things you don’t like about him, I can’t even deal with you and you deserve another 4 years of Trump.


The Democrats need votes from new demographics. Additional voters from bougie folks in areas where they already have overwhelming majorities ain’t the formula.

Harris reeks of fraudulence:
-Democratic Party identity politics with nothing learned from BHO’s and HRC’s failures
-crappy public presence (her evasive laughter) when it most matters
-her career came from her horizontal mamboing

Start seeing through the Democrats’ conventional wisdom if you actually want to beat Trump!


She's a cynical politician who won't address her AG record and fails to address many issues head-on. I don't have a clue what she really believes in. Whole career law&order now suddenly BLM when little evidence of this as AG. Which is it--tell us! Now that I've seen it twice, her evasive laughter is indeed off-putting. But none of this would matter if she had policy chops. She doesn't and is deeply inarticulate when put on the spot about anything policy-related. She is charismatic, but only with rehearsed speeches. She can not flex when needed (again, I think, because the policy chops aren't really there). The thought of putting someone with zero foreign policy expertise, in particular, a heartbeat from a very old president is deeply concerning to me. And because many do perceive her as inauthentic, I don't believe swing voters will like her and she will negatively affect the ticket.

Are you suggesting that Harris can't perform as VP? Sorry, but I'm not sure exactly what you are prattling on about.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m glad you guys still care. Every day that passes with Donald in office I think how much more excited I am to vote for Biden/Literally Anyone.

Same boat. Outside of picking Warren which may alienate more conservative dems/independents, I don't think his pick will have any affect on his electability.

+1


I think Harris or Rice could also have a negative impact on electability.


+1. I’m astounded that anyone could give any kind of pause because someone’s racist/sexist/idiot mother says “there just is something I don’t like about Harris.” If you can’t even articulate what it is you don’t like about a person, while the alternative is voting for TRUMP where there are a thousand things you don’t like about him, I can’t even deal with you and you deserve another 4 years of Trump.


The Democrats need votes from new demographics. Additional voters from bougie folks in areas where they already have overwhelming majorities ain’t the formula.

Harris reeks of fraudulence:
-Democratic Party identity politics with nothing learned from BHO’s and HRC’s failures
-crappy public presence (her evasive laughter) when it most matters
-her career came from her horizontal mamboing

Start seeing through the Democrats’ conventional wisdom if you actually want to beat Trump!


She's a cynical politician who won't address her AG record and fails to address many issues head-on. I don't have a clue what she really believes in. Whole career law&order now suddenly BLM when little evidence of this as AG. Which is it--tell us! Now that I've seen it twice, her evasive laughter is indeed off-putting. But none of this would matter if she had policy chops. She doesn't and is deeply inarticulate when put on the spot about anything policy-related. She is charismatic, but only with rehearsed speeches. She can not flex when needed (again, I think, because the policy chops aren't really there). The thought of putting someone with zero foreign policy expertise, in particular, a heartbeat from a very old president is deeply concerning to me. And because many do perceive her as inauthentic, I don't believe swing voters will like her and she will negatively affect the ticket.


+1. If it isn’t Bass as front runner, I would even think a closer look at the Latina governor, New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham would be more helpful in strengthening a growing Hispanic vote, supports AA vote with strong advocacy, before Harris. I don’t know why people are trying to force her as VP and not AG. Is it because she is attractive? I remember seeing a posted pic of her and Biden that said “look at how good they look together.” I thought, well
Yeah, she’s pretty. But so was Sarah Palin. Not saying Kamala Harris has only looks, clearly she doesn’t. But looking cute ain’t enough. Mayor Pete is cuter if it is an optics pageant. But it is not. It’s literally the most critical election we have faced in the last 50’years. So much is in the table. We need the right VP so we can do the right work, even if we have all the votes.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m glad you guys still care. Every day that passes with Donald in office I think how much more excited I am to vote for Biden/Literally Anyone.

Same boat. Outside of picking Warren which may alienate more conservative dems/independents, I don't think his pick will have any affect on his electability.

+1


I think Harris or Rice could also have a negative impact on electability.


+1. I’m astounded that anyone could give any kind of pause because someone’s racist/sexist/idiot mother says “there just is something I don’t like about Harris.” If you can’t even articulate what it is you don’t like about a person, while the alternative is voting for TRUMP where there are a thousand things you don’t like about him, I can’t even deal with you and you deserve another 4 years of Trump.


The Democrats need votes from new demographics. Additional voters from bougie folks in areas where they already have overwhelming majorities ain’t the formula.

Harris reeks of fraudulence:
-Democratic Party identity politics with nothing learned from BHO’s and HRC’s failures
-crappy public presence (her evasive laughter) when it most matters
-her career came from her horizontal mamboing

Start seeing through the Democrats’ conventional wisdom if you actually want to beat Trump!


She's a cynical politician who won't address her AG record and fails to address many issues head-on. I don't have a clue what she really believes in. Whole career law&order now suddenly BLM when little evidence of this as AG. Which is it--tell us! Now that I've seen it twice, her evasive laughter is indeed off-putting. But none of this would matter if she had policy chops. She doesn't and is deeply inarticulate when put on the spot about anything policy-related. She is charismatic, but only with rehearsed speeches. She can not flex when needed (again, I think, because the policy chops aren't really there). The thought of putting someone with zero foreign policy expertise, in particular, a heartbeat from a very old president is deeply concerning to me. And because many do perceive her as inauthentic, I don't believe swing voters will like her and she will negatively affect the ticket.

Are you suggesting that Harris can't perform as VP? Sorry, but I'm not sure exactly what you are prattling on about.


Not PP, but I and many others have expressed that yes, her character traits matter. And yes, her expertise should be in a position where we get the highest ROI of her skills. That is not a 2020 VP slot. Maybe 2024 — she is young. There is enough reservation around her that could threaten progress in the mending that needs to be done moving forward. Who will listen to her and respect anything she has to say about race relations? She slept with white men and prosecuted black men to move forward and some people view that negatively. We don’t want another sell out in office. Authenticity matters. Engaging and energizing voters matters.
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^^ Adding one more thing. Kamala is very smart. She can overcome all negative criticism around her if she addressed her past record and established confidence around her future record. She hasn’t done that, and has had more of a platform and opportunity to do so than any other VP on the candidate list. Which is another signal of her “flexibility” (corny pun from the pp saying she isn’t able to flex bc of inadequate policy expertise)
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m glad you guys still care. Every day that passes with Donald in office I think how much more excited I am to vote for Biden/Literally Anyone.

Same boat. Outside of picking Warren which may alienate more conservative dems/independents, I don't think his pick will have any affect on his electability.

+1


I think Harris or Rice could also have a negative impact on electability.


+1. I’m astounded that anyone could give any kind of pause because someone’s racist/sexist/idiot mother says “there just is something I don’t like about Harris.” If you can’t even articulate what it is you don’t like about a person, while the alternative is voting for TRUMP where there are a thousand things you don’t like about him, I can’t even deal with you and you deserve another 4 years of Trump.


The Democrats need votes from new demographics. Additional voters from bougie folks in areas where they already have overwhelming majorities ain’t the formula.

Harris reeks of fraudulence:
-Democratic Party identity politics with nothing learned from BHO’s and HRC’s failures
-crappy public presence (her evasive laughter) when it most matters
-her career came from her horizontal mamboing

Start seeing through the Democrats’ conventional wisdom if you actually want to beat Trump!


She's a cynical politician who won't address her AG record and fails to address many issues head-on. I don't have a clue what she really believes in. Whole career law&order now suddenly BLM when little evidence of this as AG. Which is it--tell us! Now that I've seen it twice, her evasive laughter is indeed off-putting. But none of this would matter if she had policy chops. She doesn't and is deeply inarticulate when put on the spot about anything policy-related. She is charismatic, but only with rehearsed speeches. She can not flex when needed (again, I think, because the policy chops aren't really there). The thought of putting someone with zero foreign policy expertise, in particular, a heartbeat from a very old president is deeply concerning to me. And because many do perceive her as inauthentic, I don't believe swing voters will like her and she will negatively affect the ticket.

Are you suggesting that Harris can't perform as VP? Sorry, but I'm not sure exactly what you are prattling on about.




Agree with PP she doesn't have sufficient policy expertise, period. She has not once impressed me in this area, not one time. Bass, Lujan Grisham, or Duckworth please.
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Anonymous wrote:^^ Adding one more thing. Kamala is very smart. She can overcome all negative criticism around her if she addressed her past record and established confidence around her future record. She hasn’t done that, and has had more of a platform and opportunity to do so than any other VP on the candidate list. Which is another signal of her “flexibility” (corny pun from the pp saying she isn’t able to flex bc of inadequate policy expertise)



Like a number of PPs said, she'd be a strong AG and could position herself very well to come back in 2024 or 2028. The attack ads based on her state AG record would be merciless.
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“Agree with PP she doesn't have sufficient policy expertise, period. She has not once impressed me in this area, not one time. Bass, Lujan Grisham, or Duckworth please.”


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Well look at that. A short and very diverse list of Madame VP-Elect candidates.
Anonymous
Harris will be an outstanding VP.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:“Agree with PP she doesn't have sufficient policy expertise, period. She has not once impressed me in this area, not one time. Bass, Lujan Grisham, or Duckworth please.”


^^
Well look at that. A short and very diverse list of Madame VP-Elect candidates.


This list works for me!
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Anonymous wrote:Harris will be an outstanding VP.


Based on what you’ve seen of her handling of issues, why? Be specific.
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Anonymous wrote:Harris will be an outstanding VP.


Gratefully Yours,

Kamala Harris
2020 Presidential Candidate
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Anonymous wrote:^^we tend to stay in our coastal elite bubble and not think enough about swing/ working class voters.

I don’t even care. And I cannot believe that with all that Donald and his crime squad have done that we know about so far that anyone needs to be pandered to like those weak ash people who have already been a party to the GOP’s turn to full on authoritarianism. “Oh boo hoo hoo but the VP choice doesn’t appeal to me”. We all have one choice this November: Joe Biden or the end of America. That’s why I said Joe Biden/Anyone (although somewhat ironically given the +1 replies, my VP choice is Warren).


That’s right. Cuz if your don’t vote Joe, you ain’t black.
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