Superintendent's Recommendation for Richard Montgomery ES #5 Boundaries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The BOE knows based on letters/emails.
They realized going door to door that FARMS families want proximity

We will see what they pick.

BOE went door-to-door in RP2?

[Anonymous]

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I was at the meeting it was mentioned before options 1-4 were even on the table. They just showed the zones. It was a done deal.

Nothing was done deal in those meetings. I was present in all meetings except one. Advisory group didn't even have any power to select one over another and rightly so. They were only allowed to comment on all options by listing pros and cons.

It was THOUGHT to be a done deal. RP2 area knew as soon as the old Hungerford Elementary was being rebuilt, they were going there. It was their walkable zone decades prior and it made sense since they were the closest from RP. Once BOE announced it was RP2 and walakable, furthered that notion. Not until 7 and 8 were brought about was there one person thinking they were staying, complaining about not staying and were actually looking forward to the move.

7/8 were pat of the entire process and not sure why you think that they should be ignored.

I personally know 2 RP2 parents who have written to BOE to stay in RP.

I am aware of RP having a weak admin. Even TB has week admin. Some parents from TB wanted to move out of TB only because of weak admin.

Boundary decisions shouldn't be made based on temporary thing like weak admins. They will be changed.

I don't think that any option is ideal for everyone, but BOE has heard all arguments by now. Let them decide and cluster should simply move forward after decision comes out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I was at the meeting it was mentioned before options 1-4 were even on the table. They just showed the zones. It was a done deal.

Nothing was done deal in those meetings. I was present in all meetings except one. Advisory group didn't even have any power to select one over another and rightly so. They were only allowed to comment on all options by listing pros and cons.

It was THOUGHT to be a done deal. RP2 area knew as soon as the old Hungerford Elementary was being rebuilt, they were going there. It was their walkable zone decades prior and it made sense since they were the closest from RP. Once BOE announced it was RP2 and walakable, furthered that notion. Not until 7 and 8 were brought about was there one person thinking they were staying, complaining about not staying and were actually looking forward to the move. It is tough on FARMS and the school has a terrible administration. A new school would be a delight. I can tell you FG would have jumped to leave if they built up north. It isn't like we are some wonderful sought after school. Even if they get 7% FARMS, it won't change the internal damage. The poor PTA turnout, the lack of decent administration, etc... if anything making it smaller will give us less involvement. I wish I were going to the new school. I am in no boundary changes and will be at RP no matter what. My kids have friends from all the sections that could be leaving. It will suck no matter what. There isn't one side against another. Everyone just wants the kids to not go further than they need to. I can understand where they are coming from.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was THOUGHT to be a done deal. RP2 area knew as soon as the old Hungerford Elementary was being rebuilt, they were going there. It was their walkable zone decades prior and it made sense since they were the closest from RP. Once BOE announced it was RP2 and walakable, furthered that notion. Not until 7 and 8 were brought about was there one person thinking they were staying, complaining about not staying and were actually looking forward to the move. It is tough on FARMS and the school has a terrible administration. A new school would be a delight. I can tell you FG would have jumped to leave if they built up north. It isn't like we are some wonderful sought after school. Even if they get 7% FARMS, it won't change the internal damage. The poor PTA turnout, the lack of decent administration, etc... if anything making it smaller will give us less involvement. I wish I were going to the new school. I am in no boundary changes and will be at RP no matter what. My kids have friends from all the sections that could be leaving. It will suck no matter what. There isn't one side against another. Everyone just wants the kids to not go further than they need to. I can understand where they are coming from.

It is strange that RP2 wants to move so badly, but nobody testified in favor of moving to the new school. There was only one testimony from RP2 and that was in favor of staying in RPES: http://www.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/AT5QU86AE74C/$file/Laurie%20Brooks.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: I live near Ritchie Park and every school around not in the RM cluster is under capacity, by a lot and most are brand new schools. It is complete BS that this cluster has been screwed time and time again while they sit at 80% capacity in brand new schools. I don't even care that their FARMS rates are low. I care that their schools have multiple open classrooms and Ritchie Park has lived with 6 portables for years while the BOE and MCPS rebuilt under enrolled Beverly Farms, Wayside, and now Potomac. COld Spring has about 73% capacity.

Why can't we have some RP kids going to those Potomac schools? It's insane idea to have all those empty schools and then have portables in RM cluster.

I have heard that elementary and high schools are tied together. If that's the case, do you know how Wootton or Churchill looks like in terms of crowd? If they are less crowded than RM then it makes all the sense to send some RP kids to Potomac schools to free capacity in RM cluster.

No they are not tied to each other. Some middle schools split and go to two separate high schools. I think Cabin John is one.

Elementary and High school are tied in the example you are citing. They only go to different middle school. There are more cases like that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I was at the meeting it was mentioned before options 1-4 were even on the table. They just showed the zones. It was a done deal.

Nothing was done deal in those meetings. I was present in all meetings except one. Advisory group didn't even have any power to select one over another and rightly so. They were only allowed to comment on all options by listing pros and cons.

It was THOUGHT to be a done deal. RP2 area knew as soon as the old Hungerford Elementary was being rebuilt, they were going there. It was their walkable zone decades prior and it made sense since they were the closest from RP. Once BOE announced it was RP2 and walakable, furthered that notion. Not until 7 and 8 were brought about was there one person thinking they were staying, complaining about not staying and were actually looking forward to the move.

7/8 were pat of the entire process and not sure why you think that they should be ignored.

I personally know 2 RP2 parents who have written to BOE to stay in RP.

I am aware of RP having a weak admin. Even TB has week admin. Some parents from TB wanted to move out of TB only because of weak admin.

Boundary decisions shouldn't be made based on temporary thing like weak admins. They will be changed.

I don't think that any option is ideal for everyone, but BOE has heard all arguments by now. Let them decide and cluster should simply move forward after decision comes out.

7 and 8 were not part of the entire process.

Boundary study started beginning of school year 2016.

7 and 8 were added late Spring 2017

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
The BOE knows based on letters/emails.
They realized going door to door that FARMS families want proximity

We will see what they pick.

Stop imagining things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was THOUGHT to be a done deal. RP2 area knew as soon as the old Hungerford Elementary was being rebuilt, they were going there. It was their walkable zone decades prior and it made sense since they were the closest from RP. Once BOE announced it was RP2 and walakable, furthered that notion. Not until 7 and 8 were brought about was there one person thinking they were staying, complaining about not staying and were actually looking forward to the move. It is tough on FARMS and the school has a terrible administration. A new school would be a delight. I can tell you FG would have jumped to leave if they built up north. It isn't like we are some wonderful sought after school. Even if they get 7% FARMS, it won't change the internal damage. The poor PTA turnout, the lack of decent administration, etc... if anything making it smaller will give us less involvement. I wish I were going to the new school. I am in no boundary changes and will be at RP no matter what. My kids have friends from all the sections that could be leaving. It will suck no matter what. There isn't one side against another. Everyone just wants the kids to not go further than they need to. I can understand where they are coming from.

It is strange that RP2 wants to move so badly, but nobody testified in favor of moving to the new school. There was only one testimony from RP2 and that was in favor of staying in RPES: http://www.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/AT5QU86AE74C/$file/Laurie%20Brooks.pdf

Oh really Laurie, thanks we didn't know that already. roll:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was THOUGHT to be a done deal. RP2 area knew as soon as the old Hungerford Elementary was being rebuilt, they were going there. It was their walkable zone decades prior and it made sense since they were the closest from RP. Once BOE announced it was RP2 and walakable, furthered that notion. Not until 7 and 8 were brought about was there one person thinking they were staying, complaining about not staying and were actually looking forward to the move. It is tough on FARMS and the school has a terrible administration. A new school would be a delight. I can tell you FG would have jumped to leave if they built up north. It isn't like we are some wonderful sought after school. Even if they get 7% FARMS, it won't change the internal damage. The poor PTA turnout, the lack of decent administration, etc... if anything making it smaller will give us less involvement. I wish I were going to the new school. I am in no boundary changes and will be at RP no matter what. My kids have friends from all the sections that could be leaving. It will suck no matter what. There isn't one side against another. Everyone just wants the kids to not go further than they need to. I can understand where they are coming from.

It is strange that RP2 wants to move so badly, but nobody testified in favor of moving to the new school. There was only one testimony from RP2 and that was in favor of staying in RPES: http://www.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/AT5QU86AE74C/$file/Laurie%20Brooks.pdf

That was one person. Again, the PP just stated that you can't claim everyone wants something from a few people or one person speaking. How many people testified in favor of any of the other walk zones going to their walkable school? Oh, none. Because it shouldn't even be up for discussion. Parents in RP2 who want to go the to new school have emailed the board (and many were motivated to do so after hearing Laurie's testimony). The BoE are the only people who need to know what RP2 wants. Not the random mob on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was THOUGHT to be a done deal. RP2 area knew as soon as the old Hungerford Elementary was being rebuilt, they were going there. It was their walkable zone decades prior and it made sense since they were the closest from RP. Once BOE announced it was RP2 and walakable, furthered that notion. Not until 7 and 8 were brought about was there one person thinking they were staying, complaining about not staying and were actually looking forward to the move. It is tough on FARMS and the school has a terrible administration. A new school would be a delight. I can tell you FG would have jumped to leave if they built up north. It isn't like we are some wonderful sought after school. Even if they get 7% FARMS, it won't change the internal damage. The poor PTA turnout, the lack of decent administration, etc... if anything making it smaller will give us less involvement. I wish I were going to the new school. I am in no boundary changes and will be at RP no matter what. My kids have friends from all the sections that could be leaving. It will suck no matter what. There isn't one side against another. Everyone just wants the kids to not go further than they need to. I can understand where they are coming from.

It is strange that RP2 wants to move so badly, but nobody testified in favor of moving to the new school. There was only one testimony from RP2 and that was in favor of staying in RPES: http://www.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/AT5QU86AE74C/$file/Laurie%20Brooks.pdf

Oh really Laurie, thanks we didn't know that already. roll:

That isn't Laurie. It is the HCA trolls who keep posting the same posts and link over and over again. Why don't you want your option B again Hungerford? What was your quick change to E again? Such friendly inclusive neighbors you all are. LOL

[Anonymous]

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7 and 8 were not part of the entire process.

Boundary study started beginning of school year 2016.

7 and 8 were added late Spring 2017

Boundary options always come in iterations. Not sure what's your point here? MCPS presents few options and takes feedback and then present some more options. That's the normal way.

In fact case can be made for later presented boundaries being a better reflection of cluster needs because it came after many rounds of feedbacks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was THOUGHT to be a done deal. RP2 area knew as soon as the old Hungerford Elementary was being rebuilt, they were going there. It was their walkable zone decades prior and it made sense since they were the closest from RP. Once BOE announced it was RP2 and walakable, furthered that notion. Not until 7 and 8 were brought about was there one person thinking they were staying, complaining about not staying and were actually looking forward to the move. It is tough on FARMS and the school has a terrible administration. A new school would be a delight. I can tell you FG would have jumped to leave if they built up north. It isn't like we are some wonderful sought after school. Even if they get 7% FARMS, it won't change the internal damage. The poor PTA turnout, the lack of decent administration, etc... if anything making it smaller will give us less involvement. I wish I were going to the new school. I am in no boundary changes and will be at RP no matter what. My kids have friends from all the sections that could be leaving. It will suck no matter what. There isn't one side against another. Everyone just wants the kids to not go further than they need to. I can understand where they are coming from.

It is strange that RP2 wants to move so badly, but nobody testified in favor of moving to the new school. There was only one testimony from RP2 and that was in favor of staying in RPES: http://www.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/AT5QU86AE74C/$file/Laurie%20Brooks.pdf

That was one person. Again, the PP just stated that you can't claim everyone wants something from a few people or one person speaking. How many people testified in favor of any of the other walk zones going to their walkable school? Oh, none. Because it shouldn't even be up for discussion. Parents in RP2 who want to go the to new school have emailed the board (and many were motivated to do so after hearing Laurie's testimony). The BoE are the only people who need to know what RP2 wants. Not the random mob on DCUM.

Exactly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The BOE knows based on letters/emails.
They realized going door to door that FARMS families want proximity

We will see what they pick.

Stop imagining things.

Not sure about RP2 but they did in Twinbrook, specifically the two apartment complexes affected in C and D.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
7 and 8 were not part of the entire process.

Boundary study started beginning of school year 2016.

7 and 8 were added late Spring 2017

Boundary options always come in iterations. Not sure what's your point here? MCPS presents few options and takes feedback and then present some more options. That's the normal way.

In fact case can be made for later presented boundaries being a better reflection of cluster needs because it came after many rounds of feedbacks.

Option 6 was the most popular option by the boundary study reps. You can read all of their feedback. Many did include specific preferences in their written feedback. That was a later presented option. I didn't see any reps specifically write that options 7 or 8 were preferred. In fact, many pointed out problems with those 2 options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The BOE knows based on letters/emails.
They realized going door to door that FARMS families want proximity

We will see what they pick.

Stop imagining things.

Not sure about RP2 but they did in Twinbrook, specifically the two apartment complexes affected in C and D.

Well, then you can say that BOE went door to door in two apartment complexes in TB affected in C and D.

I highly doubt that BOE went door to door even in two apt in TB. There was outreach effort in TB by MCPS and also by some outside organizations. That's what I know.