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Anonymous
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Got it, thanks. We are all forewarned now, thanks to the Ralph Nader of protecting parents and kids from college marketing scams.
Your work is done now ( ad nauseam), so…we beg you…please let up. |
Anonymous
| It’s like any other ranking of colleges. You are free to ignore it or use it however you wish. |
Anonymous
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I'm the one who compared CTCL and Big 10.
Of course you're right that Big 10 is an athletic conference and CTCL is not. But you're missing the bigger point. Big 10 universities have a lot of cultural similarities off the field. There's a vibe to most of them that's very diatinctive, though there are other schools with similar vibes that aren't Big 10 (Kansas, Missouri, North Carolina, Arizona, etc.). The reason I made the comparison is that a lot of DCUM posters don't understand that the Big 10 offers incredible options beyond Michigan and Northwestern and maybe Wisconsin. There's a sentiment expressed by many posters on DCUM that a college probably isn't worth attending unless you and your kid know lots of people who were rejected by that college. I think that attitude both foolish and harmful, whether you're talking about Big 10 or CTCL. Like Big 10 universities, CTCL colleges tend to share a lot of cultural similarities with one another. CTCLs tend to be warm, intellectual, collaborative and supportive. They were originally identified by a guy (Loren Pope) who saw a common thread among them. A lot of people see and appreciate that common thread. I could understand if some Dickinson or Hobart or Ripon or Lewis & Clark alumni were mad because their colleges were omitted from the CTCL list. I don't know whether any of those colleges even tried to get on it. There obviously are plenty of other great LACs that aren't named as CTCLs. But I'm telling you, the book is insightful and the list was very helpful to my kids. One of them ended up going to a CTCL and probably would not have considered it if it hadn't been in the book. The book is a fantastic resource. I don't see the point of dumping on CTCLs or on the concept of CTCLs. I do see the point of identifying similar colleges that aren't on the list (warm, supportive, collaborative, intellectual, not especially competitive). Some people want to find them and identifying them isn't easy. |
Anonymous
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Yea PP, your kid ended up at a CTCL school because the kid couldn’t get into a top 20. You know it’s true.
And the Big 10 analogy still makes no sense. None. |
Anonymous
+ 1 billion. If we give crazy PP or PPs the Nobel prize for saving kids from the likes of Denison or what have you, will they go away? |
Anonymous
| Again with the unhinged CTCL boosters trying to convince people that there’s only one person (or a couple of people) who don’t care for the “CTCL”. Nope. The vast majority do not care. The bizarre CTCL boosters are in the utter minority. |
Anonymous
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“I don't see the point of dumping on CTCLs or on the concept of CTCLs. I do see the point of identifying similar colleges that aren't on the list (warm, supportive, collaborative, intellectual, not especially competitive). Some people want to find them and identifying them isn't easy.“ So nauseatingly pretentious. “Warn, supportive, collaborative, intellectual . . .” You’ve reached that conclusion because some guy said it about a few dozen colleges a quarter century ago in some silly book? How many of these schools do you actually know well? And what the hell makes them so unique in their “warmth?” What you’re really describing are qualities that define the nation’s top LACs, except for the “not exceptionally competitive” part. |
Anonymous
If people do not care about CTCL schools, I suggest that they stop reading or posting on a thread titled "CTCL schools." |
Anonymous
Oh, we care all right. We think they’re silly. So we can post if we want to! 
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Anonymous
I say back to you, "how many of these schoolse do you actually know well?" Most CTCL fans have kids there, so, their opinions are meaningful. Yours are...let's say odd, to be kind. |
Anonymous
My kid attends a “warm” top 10. Loves it. Keep telling yourself that they’re all too high stressed and competitive if it makes you feel better though. |
Anonymous
DP. It's great that your kid attends a school that they love! Shouldn't that be the goal for all of our kids? Why you feel the need to repeatedly slam others who are trying to reach that same goal, I just don't know. |
Anonymous
But you obviously do CARE because you are spending so much of your life dedicated to this anti-cause. |
Anonymous
That is exactly the point!!! Yes, you can get that experience at the top 10 LACs. Not everyone can go there. So where else might you find a similar experience? It seems like the issue is that the "top 10" boosters think the CTCL group is saying they are better than the top 10, which is not it at all. It's just that even if you can't go to one of those schools (whether that's because you aren't in that academic level or can't afford it), if you are interested in the things that make a great LAC, here are some ideas of other places to find those things. |
Anonymous
| The message is great, the name is silly. Ultimately a marketing exercise . |