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Anonymous
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I went to one 25 years ago and had a great experience. I received a good education, got into a T14 law school, and met lifelong friends. I had a lot of merit aid and that made my family's decision easy. My youngest is interested in attending an LAC and we will definitely use a few CTCL as safeties.
They are what they are. Honestly, if my student was struggling a bit but had potential and just needed a little time to get their *#$*(& together, I think CTCL is a great option to community college. For students who are bound for grad school or professional school, it's a great way to get the undergraduate degree done at a reasonable cost and have a good experience outside of the pressure cooker of the top tier schools. |
Anonymous
| Your last sentence describes my kid’s experience to a “T” |
Anonymous
| Their dumb. |
Anonymous
Then probably know the difference between “their” and “they’re” |
Anonymous
| Oops, disregard that last post. Was trying to make a sarcastic joke on another forum but got spaced out and posted it here. CTCL schools cover a wide range when it comes to prestige, national reputation and even selectivity — believe it or not, they don’t all have acceptance rates over 50% — so it makes no sense to call them "second tier" or "third tier" or "just above community college" or any other monolithic label. It's like lumping all Pac 12 schools together when, for instance, Stanford and Arizona State couldn't be any more different. Really, it's even dumber to do so with CTCL schools as they cover a much more diverse and varied geographic territory and feature an even wider range of campus culture than any sports conference. |
Anonymous
Not the PP you are referring to but that is now the reality for many families. In DH's family, his father and two brothers attended a top NESCAC, all their children attended same school. In next generation, only one of four has been admitted to date. Jury still out on next three who will all be applying in the next cycle. In our larger friend group, some of this generation have been admitted to their parents' HYPSM/other Ivies/NESCAC etc, but most not. These are kids with 4.0 uw GPAs, top ACT/SAT scores, one of a kind ECs, etc. It is what it is. |
Anonymous
Yeah, right. There are a few on the CTCL list which produce, per capita, the most PhDs in a number of areas, especially in the sciences. Students get their start in small classes @ the LAC, then move on to research universities for grad work. So the horror you perceive of attending a CTCL is not necessarily shared by admissions committees @ HYPSM, top publics, etc. |
Anonymous
That's great and all but the acronym CTCL is the most nonsensical and embarrassing try-hard marketing exercise. Ditch the acronym. |
Anonymous
And that's what's got you stuck? |
Anonymous
| Guys I went to a CWYM school, such a life-changing and prestigious achievement, I know. It's great. You guys should also really try it out. CWYM. |
Anonymous
| If someone tries to use the term CTCL in real life, they will either be met with blank stares because it's not an actual thing, or they'll be seen as a complete and utter hack. |
Anonymous
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Most of the posters on here are so nasty, so I'm hesitant to have a presence. Just saying that we have a great college visit trip to Ohio with our DS this weekend, and toured Oberlin and College of Wooster. Those were the only ones that made the cut in part because we didn't really want Greek life.
For the CTCL haters, Wooster was incredibly impressive. I was reallly blown away by the thoughtfulness of the curriculum to scaffold kids to get them to doing graduate-level work by undergraduate, especially for kids who didn't come in on that level. And the kids seemed super-nice to boot - most of them aren't campus so it was hard to tell - but boy those kids we did meet were awesome. I would be really happy for my DC to be at Wooster, or Oberlin. I have an older child at an Ivy but the undergraduate focus seemed so much more meaningful at both schools. Just my impression to share. |
Anonymous
Not exactly, the top PhD producers are SLACs (with the S being selective). Sure, some CTCLs do better than the big publics and Ivies, but no great shakes. |
Anonymous
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There are definitely some CTCL schools on the top PhD-producing lists:
https://www.collegetransitions.com/infographics/top-feeders-phd-programs At first glance I see Kalamazoo, Reed, Centre, Whitman, Rhodes, maybe others. |
Anonymous
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Refer back to second post in this thread.
(I tried to warn you all. Throughout this forum you will find threads infected by the CTCL hater. Those of us with actual experience at those schools have tried, in vain, to educate him about the history of the name. About the popular and useful book from a New York Times education editor. We have shared MANY stories of grateful and successful grads. But all for naught. He is incurable--and most certainly uneducable). |