Skinny is the new moral/hard working and all other kind of superiority?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What do you think when you see this?


I think about my dear friend who is smart, kind, fun, and interesting, who suffers from terrible self-esteem and the indignities of being morbidly obese, yet who ultimately is a better, more decent human being than you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Skinny people are annoying. They punish themselves by having no ice cream and eating veggies and 24/7. They dont need us to pile on.


Just based on this you don’t quite understand how most skinny brains think. So your “joke” works only in the overweight matrix.
I’d rather enjoy raw veggies with some salt or oil/vinegar than ice cream. Why would a grown up woman want to be “rewarded” with anything milky? You are weird for thinking that veggies are some kind of punishment. They are life!


+1 I’m lactose intolerant so never want ice cream. Many people have the same condition. And it’s Because cow’s milk is for BabY Cows not humans!!! I had a spinach salad today that was fabulous!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Skinny people are annoying. They punish themselves by having no ice cream and eating veggies and 24/7. They dont need us to pile on.


Just based on this you don’t quite understand how most skinny brains think. So your “joke” works only in the overweight matrix.
I’d rather enjoy raw veggies with some salt or oil/vinegar than ice cream. Why would a grown up woman want to be “rewarded” with anything milky? You are weird for thinking that veggies are some kind of punishment. They are life!


+1 I’m lactose intolerant so never want ice cream. Many people have the same condition. And it’s Because cow’s milk is for BabY Cows not humans!!! I had a spinach salad today that was fabulous!


I am at the very low end of normal weight but I do not “punish” myself by having no ice cream. I have a bowl practically every night. I do eat a lot of vegetables, but that is not punishment because I prepare them in tasty and interesting ways (even my non-veggie eating DH loves roasted anything for example).

I am not yoga lady, nor do I really like English muffins, but I do run a lot (around 40 miles per week) and I strength train several times a week. Carbs are not bad for you like a lot of people think. They are a main component of what is necessary to survive (carbs, protein, fat). The ratio differs from person to person, but everyone needs these three things to survive. As much as I run and strength train and also work in a job that requires a lot of walking around, I need to eat a lot of carbs. Bread (homemade) with butter or fatty cheese, pasta, pizza (homemade), fruits, vegetables, etc. are all carbs. I eat lots of protein and moderate amounts of fat (if there’s a full-fat version, I’ll always opt for that).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

I am at the very low end of normal weight but I do not “punish” myself by having no ice cream. I have a bowl practically every night. I do eat a lot of vegetables, but that is not punishment because I prepare them in tasty and interesting ways (even my non-veggie eating DH loves roasted anything for example).
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I am at the very low end of normal weight HENCE I do not “punish” myself by having no ice cream.
FTFY

P.S. And I am in the very middle of normal weight BUT do eat ice cream occasionally )))
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:People like to think they are so brilliant because they have figured out that a calorie surplus causes weight gain. Slow clap for you. You know something an elementary school kid could tell you.

Yes, a calorie surplus will generally cause weight gain. But why do people take in more calories than they burn? What mental, emotional, and societal factors are at okay? And is weight gain always unhealthy? Could it be neutral? And should we tell people they should lose weight when dieting has been shown to be a factor in unwanted weight gain? What about weight maintenance and the studies about the value of aiming foe that? How does fat disgust impact the health of fat people? Is it productive or counterproductive? (I know these are leading questions but I can’t figure out a way to make them neutral because the answers are easily discoverable).

So yeah generally a calorie deficit will cause weight loss. But that isn’t new information and it’s barely a surface-level understanding of the issue.



I don't see fat "disgust" these days at all in the media or even in life. I see everyone going out of their way to accommodate fat people. Look at every other print ad with fat people in it - look at all the plus sizes - the fat movers at every amusement park - the list goes on. we have embraced fatness in the US. Its all good! And we all walk on eggshells to not offend fat folks.

The fact that the connection between Covid deaths and obesity has not been spoken of in the media speaks volumes to me - the US continues its denial even in the face of a pandemic.
Anonymous
What ridiculous thing, " you don't know how skinny brains work!"
I am thin, I am 50 and have always been thin. I am right now making a huge pastry called burek to eat for breakfast! I crave sweets and love them. Speak for yourself pp!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Skinny people are annoying. They punish themselves by having no ice cream and eating veggies and 24/7. They dont need us to pile on.


Just based on this you don’t quite understand how most skinny brains think. So your “joke” works only in the overweight matrix.
I’d rather enjoy raw veggies with some salt or oil/vinegar than ice cream. Why would a grown up woman want to be “rewarded” with anything milky? You are weird for thinking that veggies are some kind of punishment. They are life!


+1 I’m lactose intolerant so never want ice cream. Many people have the same condition. And it’s Because cow’s milk is for BabY Cows not humans!!! I had a spinach salad today that was fabulous!


I am at the very low end of normal weight but I do not “punish” myself by having no ice cream. I have a bowl practically every night. I do eat a lot of vegetables, but that is not punishment because I prepare them in tasty and interesting ways (even my non-veggie eating DH loves roasted anything for example).

I am not yoga lady, nor do I really like English muffins, but I do run a lot (around 40 miles per week) and I strength train several times a week. Carbs are not bad for you like a lot of people think. They are a main component of what is necessary to survive (carbs, protein, fat). The ratio differs from person to person, but everyone needs these three things to survive. As much as I run and strength train and also work in a job that requires a lot of walking around, I need to eat a lot of carbs. Bread (homemade) with butter or fatty cheese, pasta, pizza (homemade), fruits, vegetables, etc. are all carbs. I eat lots of protein and moderate amounts of fat (if there’s a full-fat version, I’ll always opt for that).

I like you and I think your post is commons sense. I don't know how old you are, but just saying I was like you until 45, then I started to crave carbs even more, and maintaining weight was not so easy all of a sudden. It is not impossible, but it is not as easy as it used to be. Even with exercise. I am a woman.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People like to think they are so brilliant because they have figured out that a calorie surplus causes weight gain. Slow clap for you. You know something an elementary school kid could tell you.

Yes, a calorie surplus will generally cause weight gain. But why do people take in more calories than they burn? What mental, emotional, and societal factors are at okay? And is weight gain always unhealthy? Could it be neutral? And should we tell people they should lose weight when dieting has been shown to be a factor in unwanted weight gain? What about weight maintenance and the studies about the value of aiming foe that? How does fat disgust impact the health of fat people? Is it productive or counterproductive? (I know these are leading questions but I can’t figure out a way to make them neutral because the answers are easily discoverable).

So yeah generally a calorie deficit will cause weight loss. But that isn’t new information and it’s barely a surface-level understanding of the issue.



I don't see fat "disgust" these days at all in the media or even in life. I see everyone going out of their way to accommodate fat people. Look at every other print ad with fat people in it - look at all the plus sizes - the fat movers at every amusement park - the list goes on. we have embraced fatness in the US. Its all good! And we all walk on eggshells to not offend fat folks.

The fact that the connection between Covid deaths and obesity has not been spoken of in the media speaks volumes to me - the US continues its denial even in the face of a pandemic.

Oh please, just bcs some medical became more aware and did not mention it, doesn't make it any better! makes it taboo to bring up! ANd I am op. shaming is wrong, just productive talking about it is ok.
Anonymous
Newsflash, because you did not put ice cream in your mouth today doesn't make you morally superior to a person that did have ice cream today.
If you think it does, you are the person I am talking about. Prig that thinks eating a certain way and looking a certain way makes you better than those that are a bit heavier.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Skinny people are annoying. They punish themselves by having no ice cream and eating veggies and 24/7. They dont need us to pile on.


Just based on this you don’t quite understand how most skinny brains think. So your “joke” works only in the overweight matrix.
I’d rather enjoy raw veggies with some salt or oil/vinegar than ice cream. Why would a grown up woman want to be “rewarded” with anything milky? You are weird for thinking that veggies are some kind of punishment. They are life!


+1 I’m lactose intolerant so never want ice cream. Many people have the same condition. And it’s Because cow’s milk is for BabY Cows not humans!!! I had a spinach salad today that was fabulous!


I am at the very low end of normal weight but I do not “punish” myself by having no ice cream. I have a bowl practically every night. I do eat a lot of vegetables, but that is not punishment because I prepare them in tasty and interesting ways (even my non-veggie eating DH loves roasted anything for example).

I am not yoga lady, nor do I really like English muffins, but I do run a lot (around 40 miles per week) and I strength train several times a week. Carbs are not bad for you like a lot of people think. They are a main component of what is necessary to survive (carbs, protein, fat). The ratio differs from person to person, but everyone needs these three things to survive. As much as I run and strength train and also work in a job that requires a lot of walking around, I need to eat a lot of carbs. Bread (homemade) with butter or fatty cheese, pasta, pizza (homemade), fruits, vegetables, etc. are all carbs. I eat lots of protein and moderate amounts of fat (if there’s a full-fat version, I’ll always opt for that).

I like you and I think your post is commons sense. I don't know how old you are, but just saying I was like you until 45, then I started to crave carbs even more, and maintaining weight was not so easy all of a sudden. It is not impossible, but it is not as easy as it used to be. Even with exercise. I am a woman.


PP here. I’m in my early 50’s and have had the same experience as you with metabolism slowing down in my mid to late 40’s. I never had to worry about weight gain up until then and stayed the same high school weight, even within weeks post pregnancy, whether I exercised or not, whether I ate well balanced meals or ate junk food. When I noticed this, I nipped it in the bud by getting back on a exercise routine and cooking 95% of my meals from scratch. Pandemic actually freed up a lot of time for me due to no commuting. I have a lot of knowledge of nutritional needs for athletes because I trained seriously for many years. I also enjoy food very much and learned to cook 25 years ago. Reading nutritional labels and cooking are second nature to me and don’t require a lot of time and money contrary to what people keep saying. Eating well and training are part of my lifestyle—it’s fun and rewarding for its own sake and not for the express purpose of losing weight. I don’t count calories, punish myself, or restrict. I don’t think this makes me morally superior.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please. I eat whatever I want. I love carbs and eat a ton. Just finished two English muffins with butter and jelly. Seriously thinking about eating another one. I also ran six miles this morning and taught a 60 minute hot yoga class. I work out hard. That allows me to fuel my body in delicious ways. I couldn’t be overweight if I tried because I move my body all day long.

Self-discipline. Consistent training. Respect for your body. And not taking more than your share of resources. These are the things fat people don’t understand. I’ve been a trainer for almost 30 years. I’ve heard every excuse in the world. They are all just that…excuses.


Lmaoooooooo how is it self discipline to eat 3 English muffins??????


I’m 5’5 and 114 pounds. I need the calories. I assure you, a six miles run at 5am takes self-discipline. If I were overweight or more sedentary, my choice would have been very different. Also, I haven’t eaten the third one…yet.

Are you doing 50+ ultrarunning training and 24 hour races like my next door neighbor? It’s super impressive and she weighs less than you too. If you aren’t, why not?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Newsflash, because you did not put ice cream in your mouth today doesn't make you morally superior to a person that did have ice cream today.
If you think it does, you are the person I am talking about. Prig that thinks eating a certain way and looking a certain way makes you better than those that are a bit heavier.


So then what does it make you if you chose to continue to do things bad for your body when you are already at an unhealthy weight? I wouldn’t say it is a moral issue. But it is an issue..
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Newsflash, because you did not put ice cream in your mouth today doesn't make you morally superior to a person that did have ice cream today.
If you think it does, you are the person I am talking about. Prig that thinks eating a certain way and looking a certain way makes you better than those that are a bit heavier.


So then what does it make you if you chose to continue to do things bad for your body when you are already at an unhealthy weight? I wouldn’t say it is a moral issue. But it is an issue..

Do we really need to put a label on it? Why simple fact of eating scoop of ice cream should be judged and called an issue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Newsflash, because you did not put ice cream in your mouth today doesn't make you morally superior to a person that did have ice cream today.
If you think it does, you are the person I am talking about. Prig that thinks eating a certain way and looking a certain way makes you better than those that are a bit heavier.


So then what does it make you if you chose to continue to do things bad for your body when you are already at an unhealthy weight? I wouldn’t say it is a moral issue. But it is an issue..

Do we really need to put a label on it? Why simple fact of eating scoop of ice cream should be judged and called an issue.


DP - If you want to eat ice cream knowing its unhealthy, then just do it and own it. Why do you care what other people think? You like the ice cream and want to eat it and apparently don't care about the consequences, but you're worried someone else is giving you the time of day to care more than you do about your own health? It's not happening nearly as much as you think it is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Newsflash, because you did not put ice cream in your mouth today doesn't make you morally superior to a person that did have ice cream today.
If you think it does, you are the person I am talking about. Prig that thinks eating a certain way and looking a certain way makes you better than those that are a bit heavier.


So then what does it make you if you chose to continue to do things bad for your body when you are already at an unhealthy weight? I wouldn’t say it is a moral issue. But it is an issue..

Do we really need to put a label on it? Why simple fact of eating scoop of ice cream should be judged and called an issue.


DP - If you want to eat ice cream knowing its unhealthy, then just do it and own it. Why do you care what other people think? You like the ice cream and want to eat it and apparently don't care about the consequences, but you're worried someone else is giving you the time of day to care more than you do about your own health? It's not happening nearly as much as you think it is.

I don't really care one way or another what people think about what I do, as in I would do it regardless of their opinion.

I'm just curious why they think it's OK to judge, and why they feel the need for the lable on other people actions.
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