Can you tell me about upscale southern culture?

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Anonymous wrote:bourbon, horses, seersucker, bow-ties, colors, patterns, historic houses, straw hats.

porches, flowers, benedictine, chicken salad.

The liqueur or the Private, Military school in Richmond??

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Anonymous wrote:Are there asian/black/Spanish/ people in the upscale southern culture? If so, do you posters admire them as well?

No there is not. At least not that I am aware of. Charming Southerner here.

Delightful.

What’s with the snark? At least they answered truthfully.

Yeah we should all appreciate PP’s racism

I don’t see the racism when they truthfully answered a question. A lot of rural southern counties are 98% white. If someone answers a question truthfully why is that racist? The demographics are what they are.

So so so much to unpack.

Rural Southern counties that are all white are going to be in Appalachia and these would NOT be considered "upscale" to put it mildly.

Now onto the original question. No there aren't really POC in "upscale" WHITE country club, debutante ball society. BUT newsflash--there are rich Black people in the South. They have their own culture and traditions.

And yeah it's not cute or Charming to admit de facto segregation, PP. You could at least say isn't that a shame or something. Sheesh.

DP. I assumed the "Charming Southerner" bit was tongue-in-cheek an didn't see it as racist either?

[Anonymous]

Did anyone watch Jersey Belle on Bravo? wondering if the family Jamie married into (Mountain Brook, Alabama) is part of this culture...

Mountain Brook, AL is DEFINITELY part of this culture. But no self-respecting Mountain Brook family would EVER agree to allow their laundry to be aired on television. And real southerners think the old money "Southern Charmers" are just, well, tacky. And in need of AA and better spending habits since obviously their money has run out. Otherwise they would not be whoring themselves on TV.

Bless their hearts.

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Anonymous wrote:Bless your heart!

Indeed.

Yes, upscale Southerners are beautiful, cultured, and educated. Children are raised with manners, style, and charm. Boys look you in the eye when they shake your hand and girls know to compliment the hostess on her home decor. Mothers dress very well and coordinate the clothing of the entire family. Beachy brands like Vineyard Vines, Southern Tide, etc. They take professional family portraits for their holiday cards. Monogrammed stationery and hand-written thank you notes.

Gag Me.

[Anonymous]

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Did anyone watch Jersey Belle on Bravo? wondering if the family Jamie married into (Mountain Brook, Alabama) is part of this culture...

Mountain Brook, AL is DEFINITELY part of this culture. But no self-respecting Mountain Brook family would EVER agree to allow their laundry to be aired on television. And real southerners think the old money "Southern Charmers" are just, well, tacky. And in need of AA and better spending habits since obviously their money has run out. Otherwise they would not be whoring themselves on TV.

Bless their hearts.

+100, and I think only one of the women in the show actually lived/lives in Mountain Brook. That show was ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds ... a bit like that anecdote about the perfect private school kids in the coffee shop ...

Yes, there’s someone on here who has a hard-on for “the affluent.” Barf.

But hates “strivers”.

Kinda OT but what’s a “striver.” I see that word on these boards a lot recently and I have no idea what it means.

A striver is someone from another part of the country (usually the Midwest) who moved to the DMV after collecting degrees from prestigious universities. The striver then gets a government job and marries another government worker with a similar educational pedigree.

The striver then tries to climb the local social ladder by dumping old friends for new ones who are more connected and useful. The striver also posts threads frequently on DCUM asking if the are “upper class” by virtue of their schooling. Strivers also throw shade on those who do actually have/earn more money than them, but do not have the same impressive degrees.

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds ... a bit like that anecdote about the perfect private school kids in the coffee shop ...

Yes, there’s someone on here who has a hard-on for “the affluent.” Barf.

But hates “strivers”.

Kinda OT but what’s a “striver.” I see that word on these boards a lot recently and I have no idea what it means.

A striver is someone from another part of the country (usually the Midwest) who moved to the DMV after collecting degrees from prestigious universities. The striver then gets a government job and marries another government worker with a similar educational pedigree.

The striver then tries to climb the local social ladder by dumping old friends for new ones who are more connected and useful. The striver also posts threads frequently on DCUM asking if the are “upper class” by virtue of their schooling. Strivers also throw shade on those who do actually have/earn more money than them, but do not have the same impressive degrees.

Whoooaaa! This sounds like some sort of DCUM type definition.

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Anonymous wrote:Southerners do not pee in the shower and we wash our legs and feet regularly unlike yankees.

WTF? I agree with the first thing - no one I know does that as far as I know. What is the last part? Do you roam around pantless without shoes?

Long-time DCUM posters will recognize references to old threads that sparked huge debates.

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Hope your daughter likes to defer to a man. And a man who is clueless at that.
All about the appearances you know. She will not have a voice in that family and will always be seen as the outsider.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds ... a bit like that anecdote about the perfect private school kids in the coffee shop ...

Yes, there’s someone on here who has a hard-on for “the affluent.” Barf.

But hates “strivers”.

Kinda OT but what’s a “striver.” I see that word on these boards a lot recently and I have no idea what it means.

A striver is someone from another part of the country (usually the Midwest) who moved to the DMV after collecting degrees from prestigious universities. The striver then gets a government job and marries another government worker with a similar educational pedigree.

The striver then tries to climb the local social ladder by dumping old friends for new ones who are more connected and useful. The striver also posts threads frequently on DCUM asking if the are “upper class” by virtue of their schooling. Strivers also throw shade on those who do actually have/earn more money than them, but do not have the same impressive degrees.

So if you don't have a prestigious degree or already lived in the DMV or work for big law, what does that make you?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds ... a bit like that anecdote about the perfect private school kids in the coffee shop ...

Yes, there’s someone on here who has a hard-on for “the affluent.” Barf.

But hates “strivers”.

Kinda OT but what’s a “striver.” I see that word on these boards a lot recently and I have no idea what it means.

A striver is someone from another part of the country (usually the Midwest) who moved to the DMV after collecting degrees from prestigious universities. The striver then gets a government job and marries another government worker with a similar educational pedigree.

The striver then tries to climb the local social ladder by dumping old friends for new ones who are more connected and useful. The striver also posts threads frequently on DCUM asking if the are “upper class” by virtue of their schooling. Strivers also throw shade on those who do actually have/earn more money than them, but do not have the same impressive degrees.

Whoooaaa! This sounds like some sort of DCUM type definition.

+1

Urban Dictionary’s top definition:

Striver
The striver is an interesting phenomenon that is seen across college campuses. In essence, the striver is an over-achiever who comes from a working or middle class family. He may be an immigrant. He may have been a slacker in HS who was "born again" into an academic wunderkind. Or he may just be an over-achiever who is keeping at it.

The striver is willing to sacrifice his social life at the expense of Phi Beta Kappa and Summa Cum Laude. The striver is the guy who stays at the library long after you are gone. The striver is the guy who takes 30 credits/semester and considers anything below an A/4.0 failure. The striver doesn't work on campus, he is too busy finding ways to pad his resume instead of working retail or workstudy. The striver lets his grades pay his education by applying to ten scholarships a year.

The striver is a future Soros/Fullbright/Rhodes/Gates/Marshall/etc. fellow. The striver lives to study. For the striver, their fun comes from the rewards they expect to receive in return for their diligence. Be it Law School, B-School, academia, or politics. The striver seeks to find the American Dream through academic success.
Anthony was a striver. He transfered from a TTT to an IVY and graduated in 2 years. He studied his ass off and went to Penn Law. He got a Biglaw offer. But lost it all because of an unmoderated mesasgeboard.

Successful strivers:
- Barack Obama
- Harold Koh

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bless your heart!

Indeed.

Yes, upscale Southerners are beautiful, cultured, and educated. Children are raised with manners, style, and charm. Boys look you in the eye when they shake your hand and girls know to compliment the hostess on her home decor. Mothers dress very well and coordinate the clothing of the entire family. Beachy brands like Vineyard Vines, Southern Tide, etc. They take professional family portraits for their holiday cards. Monogrammed stationery and hand-written thank you notes. [/quote]

Gag Me.

My parents moved down south when back in the 90 when my dad joined a private practice. . The whole thing feels like separate wives or some kind of cult. Itt seem like every person had family portraits of everybody wearing a white button-down shirt and either khakis or jeans on the beach. I got in trouble at school for not saying yes ma'am even though I was a very polite and respectful child.

The racial segregation in my community was extreme. There was about 50% white people and 50% black people in town but if you were rich you basically never interact with black unless you were employing them or they were a service worker of some kind

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are there asian/black/Spanish/ people in the upscale southern culture? If so, do you posters admire them as well?

No there is not. At least not that I am aware of. Charming Southerner here.

Delightful.

What’s with the snark? At least they answered truthfully.

Yeah we should all appreciate PP’s racism

I don’t see the racism when they truthfully answered a question. A lot of rural southern counties are 98% white. If someone answers a question truthfully why is that racist? The demographics are what they are.

+1
Whitewashing at its finest.

There are more than 23 million Black people in the rural South.

People of Color Living in America's Rural Spaces Face Constant Erasure
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/people-of-color-in-americas-rural-spaces-face-erasure


So so so much to unpack.

Rural Southern counties that are all white are going to be in Appalachia and these would NOT be considered "upscale" to put it mildly.

Now onto the original question. No there aren't really POC in "upscale" WHITE country club, debutante ball society. BUT newsflash--there are rich Black people in the South. They have their own culture and traditions.

And yeah it's not cute or Charming to admit de facto segregation, PP. You could at least say isn't that a shame or something. Sheesh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there asian/black/Spanish/ people in the upscale southern culture? If so, do you posters admire them as well?

No there is not. At least not that I am aware of. Charming Southerner here.

Delightful.

What’s with the snark? At least they answered truthfully.

Yeah we should all appreciate PP’s racism

I don’t see the racism when they truthfully answered a question. A lot of rural southern counties are 98% white. If someone answers a question truthfully why is that racist? The demographics are what they are.

So so so much to unpack.

Rural Southern counties that are all white are going to be in Appalachia and these would NOT be considered "upscale" to put it mildly.

Now onto the original question. No there aren't really POC in "upscale" WHITE country club, debutante ball society. BUT newsflash--there are rich Black people in the South. They have their own culture and traditions.

And yeah it's not cute or Charming to admit de facto segregation, PP. You could at least say isn't that a shame or something. Sheesh.

+ 1
Whitewashing at its finest.

There are more than 23 million Black people in the rural South.

People of Color Living in America's Rural Spaces Face Constant Erasure
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/people-of-color-in-americas-rural-spaces-face-erasure

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds ... a bit like that anecdote about the perfect private school kids in the coffee shop ...

Yes, there’s someone on here who has a hard-on for “the affluent.” Barf.

But hates “strivers”.

Kinda OT but what’s a “striver.” I see that word on these boards a lot recently and I have no idea what it means.

A striver is someone from another part of the country (usually the Midwest) who moved to the DMV after collecting degrees from prestigious universities. The striver then gets a government job and marries another government worker with a similar educational pedigree.

The striver then tries to climb the local social ladder by dumping old friends for new ones who are more connected and useful. The striver also posts threads frequently on DCUM asking if the are “upper class” by virtue of their schooling. Strivers also throw shade on those who do actually have/earn more money than them, but do not have the same impressive degrees.

Whoooaaa! This sounds like some sort of DCUM type definition.

+1

Urban Dictionary’s top definition:

Striver
The striver is an interesting phenomenon that is seen across college campuses. In essence, the striver is an over-achiever who comes from a working or middle class family. He may be an immigrant. He may have been a slacker in HS who was "born again" into an academic wunderkind. Or he may just be an over-achiever who is keeping at it.

The striver is willing to sacrifice his social life at the expense of Phi Beta Kappa and Summa Cum Laude. The striver is the guy who stays at the library long after you are gone. The striver is the guy who takes 30 credits/semester and considers anything below an A/4.0 failure. The striver doesn't work on campus, he is too busy finding ways to pad his resume instead of working retail or workstudy. The striver lets his grades pay his education by applying to ten scholarships a year.

The striver is a future Soros/Fullbright/Rhodes/Gates/Marshall/etc. fellow. The striver lives to study. For the striver, their fun comes from the rewards they expect to receive in return for their diligence. Be it Law School, B-School, academia, or politics. The striver seeks to find the American Dream through academic success.
Anthony was a striver. He transfered from a TTT to an IVY and graduated in 2 years. He studied his ass off and went to Penn Law. He got a Biglaw offer. But lost it all because of an unmoderated mesasgeboard.

Successful strivers:
- Barack Obama
- Harold Koh

I don't think this is it. At all. At least if we're going with how it's typically used on DCUM. The UD definition just sounds like someone who's very academically ambitious...seems like a better fit for the phrase "hungry." A striver is more about how you treat people, obsession with money and class, stuff like that. Like, Barack Obama was obviously very ambitious and strove for great things...but I don't think he would be considered a striver unless he did things like dumping old friends for new ones simply bc the new friends had better connections/prestige and would make him look better and help him become more powerful. Buy certain things solely to make himself look rich/successful. Takes violin lessons not because he wants to learn an instrument or craft, but because he equates playing violin with being wealthy/successful. It's basically being an annoying social climber obsessed with how they appear to others (not just physically). And from what I know about BHO, I don't think he was that way. Maybe.