Robert Frost beats Takoma Park in Mathcounts

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with all. this prep is it makes a mediocre student look like a good candidate for programs like the magnet but when they get there they just slow everyone else down because they're actually just a mediocre kid with pushy parents.

IMO, one could say the same about the somewhat mediocre students who are there now simply because of peer cohort. The wide range of abilities in a magnet program basically brings the average down.

Spot on! The new selection method actually favors the mediocre kids with pushy parents, hence, the “diverse abilities”.

No, it's just the opposite. The new process selects the best and brightest from over 10 times as many potential applicants than the old system. However, there are a few disgruntled parents who like to spread misinformation in the hopes of returning to the older system which favored affluent school kids who prepped.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the greatest mathematicians is not only an American, but also a Marylander.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Fefferman

We have a lot US born mathematicians.

Are you saying that the magnet kids are not US-born or Americans? Oh, my! Talking about bigotry.

so dumb !!!! that is why we see so many involved arguments because of this kind dumbass !!!

PP, your mom is asking you to go to school.

Sincerely,

your grandma who attended TPMS 60 years ago.

[Anonymous]

This discussion has really turned for the worse. The reality is there were good and bad things about the old system and the new system.
The old system did take into account motivation and interest. That is very important.
The new system does pick up kids who may have lower scores or performance but happen to be at a certain school.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with all. this prep is it makes a mediocre student look like a good candidate for programs like the magnet but when they get there they just slow everyone else down because they're actually just a mediocre kid with pushy parents.

IMO, one could say the same about the somewhat mediocre students who are there now simply because of peer cohort. The wide range of abilities in a magnet program basically brings the average down.

Spot on! The new selection method actually favors the mediocre kids with pushy parents, hence, the “diverse abilities”.

No, it's just the opposite. The new process selects the best and brightest from over 10 times as many potential applicants than the old system. However, there are a few disgruntled parents who like to spread misinformation in the hopes of returning to the older system which favored affluent school kids who prepped.

No. The poorer performance of the newly selected kids proves otherwise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with all. this prep is it makes a mediocre student look like a good candidate for programs like the magnet but when they get there they just slow everyone else down because they're actually just a mediocre kid with pushy parents.

So which one is it? Frost beats Takoma because Takoma kids were prepped and couldn’t perform well? Or they are truly gifted, according to MCPS, and simply don’t care about Mathcounts? You cannot have it both ways.

In one insignificant contest Frost actually placed higher. Forst is doing a great job. As one poster pointed out they have something liek 3 highly rated students whereas Takoma has closer to 30. Takoma will also likely place higher in the state content next month since this was mostly just an off day. The nonsense about admissions is just the rantings of disgruntled parents who are still angry they can't game the admission system like the good old days before universal screening.

Don’t count on it. The heavily prepped magnet kids even couldn’t win something as insignificant as Mathcounts chapter, what else can you expect?

[Anonymous]

This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL

One time Frost beats TPMS and all the W parents come glowing and singing.
Even Leicester won the BPL too.

But I understand. When you beat the big dog, you gotta glow

^^ the only truthful post in this thread

I think you're right. Frost had a good day but I doubt this will happen again or is even repeatable. In fact, let's follow up on this in a couple of months and see how it pans out. Most the nonsense posted here is by bitter parents whose kids weren't able to make the cut for TPMS so they delight in trash-talking and spreading debunked conspiracy theories.

You mean MCPS admitting high performers only based on peer cohort is a conspiracy theory?

Sure, Fost had a good day, but will likely be creamed by TPMS in the state competition next month. The bitter parents whose kids failed to make the cut at TPMS will gloss over this since it doesn't support their bogus narrative.

Go, TPMS!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with all. this prep is it makes a mediocre student look like a good candidate for programs like the magnet but when they get there they just slow everyone else down because they're actually just a mediocre kid with pushy parents.

IMO, one could say the same about the somewhat mediocre students who are there now simply because of peer cohort. The wide range of abilities in a magnet program basically brings the average down.

Spot on! The new selection method actually favors the mediocre kids with pushy parents, hence, the “diverse abilities”.

No, it's just the opposite. The new process selects the best and brightest from over 10 times as many potential applicants than the old system. However, there are a few disgruntled parents who like to spread misinformation in the hopes of returning to the older system which favored affluent school kids who prepped.

The new process selects those who don't have a peer cohort, and in some cases, that means that they are not as high performing as other students in schools where there is a peer cohort. The ability range is much wider than in previous years. Even MCPS has stated this. Ergo... the average has gone down.

Easy way to prove it... MCPS should release the median scores of accepted students, but they won't because it would prove what I stated as true. They don't want facts to show it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with all. this prep is it makes a mediocre student look like a good candidate for programs like the magnet but when they get there they just slow everyone else down because they're actually just a mediocre kid with pushy parents.

IMO, one could say the same about the somewhat mediocre students who are there now simply because of peer cohort. The wide range of abilities in a magnet program basically brings the average down.

Spot on! The new selection method actually favors the mediocre kids with pushy parents, hence, the “diverse abilities”.

No, it's just the opposite. The new process selects the best and brightest from over 10 times as many potential applicants than the old system. However, there are a few disgruntled parents who like to spread misinformation in the hopes of returning to the older system which favored affluent school kids who prepped.

The new process selects those who don't have a peer cohort, and in some cases, that means that they are not as high performing as other students in schools where there is a peer cohort. The ability range is much wider than in previous years. Even MCPS has stated this. Ergo... the average has gone down.

Easy way to prove it... MCPS should release the median scores of accepted students, but they won't because it would prove what I stated as true. They don't want facts to show it.

Can't a FOIA request be done to make them release the average/median scores?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with all. this prep is it makes a mediocre student look like a good candidate for programs like the magnet but when they get there they just slow everyone else down because they're actually just a mediocre kid with pushy parents.

IMO, one could say the same about the somewhat mediocre students who are there now simply because of peer cohort. The wide range of abilities in a magnet program basically brings the average down.

Spot on! The new selection method actually favors the mediocre kids with pushy parents, hence, the “diverse abilities”.

No, it's just the opposite. The new process selects the best and brightest from over 10 times as many potential applicants than the old system. However, there are a few disgruntled parents who like to spread misinformation in the hopes of returning to the older system which favored affluent school kids who prepped.

The new process selects those who don't have a peer cohort, and in some cases, that means that they are not as high performing as other students in schools where there is a peer cohort. The ability range is much wider than in previous years. Even MCPS has stated this. Ergo... the average has gone down.

Easy way to prove it... MCPS should release the median scores of accepted students, but they won't because it would prove what I stated as true. They don't want facts to show it.

Can't a FOIA request be done to make them release the average/median scores?

yes, several groups requested that, including one Asian American parents group, which I belonged to. After paying the request fee and urged several times over more than a year, MCPS still hasn't provided the statistics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

Agree that next year will be different. TPMS will go downhill even further.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

Agree that next year will be different. TPMS will go downhill even further.

PP - You should be happy about that, were it come to pass, because your kid presumably is at a superior program, and you then get to gloat. But which begs the question, why do even care?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

Agree that next year will be different. TPMS will go downhill even further.

PP - You should be happy about that, were it come to pass, because your kid presumably is at a superior program, and you then get to gloat. But which begs the question, why do even care?

I am worried, actually. TP is deteriorating obviously (thank you, MCPS). The Frost teachers would have retired by the time DC is a middle schooler. Where could DD go?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread becomes more and more absurd. I suspect there are only a few persons posting trolling messages to pit people against each other.
DC went to the mathcounts event. It was a fun tournament just like chess or other sports competitions. Kids solve some math problem individually and in a team. And the winners recognized in the end. It is just that, an extracurricular activity, interests only to kids who are into it. Although the “winners” are well-known and well-admired by most contestants, I doubt students outside of the math club know or care at all. Also, like other tournaments, the results are quite predictable. Frost probably will win again in the state competition, but that doesn’t mean anything about magnet vs. non-magnet or Frost vs. TP. And the result most likely will change next year when different players come in.

Thanks for posting, PP. It's nice to read a sensible take on this.

Agree that next year will be different. TPMS will go downhill even further.

PP - You should be happy about that, were it come to pass, because your kid presumably is at a superior program, and you then get to gloat. But which begs the question, why do even care?

DP... people care about the direction of the school district. The magnet programs are one of the best things about MCPS, and lowering the bar for magnet programs is going in the wrong direction.