Zoning Lafayette out of Deal/Wilson - is this real?

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Anonymous wrote:So much to unpack it 14:54 tacitly racist/class-baiterism. Yuck. It bears noting that many UMC homes are “unstable” because of divorce, addiction, workaholicism, and other behaviors befitting narcissists who wax, masturbation-like, about being UMC or their property values. You did not inherit a feeder path to Deal/Wilson by virtue of divine right or jumbo mortgage. If you want to move to McLean - do it. Ward 4 schools should feed Ward 4. Moreover, Ward 4 students make up the bulk of OOB students. This is a tremendous waste when we have very expensive, shiny MS and HS in Ward 4. Similarly, if we really care about bilingualism- reroute OA/Bancroft to Macfarland/Roosevelt. Besides Lafayette- we will need another big school - to be reorganized into Hardy. Janney makes sense.

I think Hardy is getting to full to take on Janney. Back to the Duke Ellington suggestion, but I really do not see how this can help if any new seats or program is going to be offered city wide. Then there is Old Hardy, but I have not followed.

Oyster/Adams certainly can leave the feeder to Wilson, the middle school is in Dupont Circle so those kids can apply to CHEC as Spanish speakers, or go to the another Spanish speaking High school. Where the kids from Bancroft should also be heading. If everyone stops for a moment and collectively supports this the high school would be great, PARCC test results and all that, but it needs collective action. and that is a big challenge.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We don't have to choose among Shepherd, Lafayette, Bancroft, and Oyster. They should ALL have different feeder patterns: the former two to Wells and Coolidge and the latter two to MacFarland and Roosevelt.

Agree. If they move schools out of Deal-Wilson, it will be a bunch of schools so none of them can say they were targeted.

Bancroft is an obvious choice, since it's gerrymandered into the Deal-Wilson catchment and just really far from the schools. Bancroft and O-A go to the dual language high schools, because duh. It's a waste of money to not send them there.

Shepherd and Lafayette will both be re-assigned at the same time for the purposes of political optics/CYA. They can't remove a school with UMC children of color (Shepherd) without removing a school filled with UMC white kids (Lafayette). Both or none.

And the sooner this happens the better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We don't have to choose among Shepherd, Lafayette, Bancroft, and Oyster. They should ALL have different feeder patterns: the former two to Wells and Coolidge and the latter two to MacFarland and Roosevelt.

Agree. If they move schools out of Deal-Wilson, it will be a bunch of schools so none of them can say they were targeted.

Bancroft is an obvious choice, since it's gerrymandered into the Deal-Wilson catchment and just really far from the schools. Bancroft and O-A go to the dual language high schools, because duh. It's a waste of money to not send them there.

Shepherd and Lafayette will both be re-assigned at the same time for the purposes of political optics/CYA. They can't remove a school with UMC children of color (Shepherd) without removing a school filled with UMC white kids (Lafayette). Both or none.

And the sooner this happens the better.

What’s interesting is that by the time 2022/3 gets here, the argument for Shepherd adding diversity will be weaker given changes in the neighborhood. PK3/4 demographics reflect that difference. I live here and hope it stays in, since it will still add some diversity to Deal/Wilson, just not as much as before.

[Anonymous]

Let’s move Murch, Lafayette, and Shepherd to Wells; OA and Bancroft to CHEC or Macfarland.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We don't have to choose among Shepherd, Lafayette, Bancroft, and Oyster. They should ALL have different feeder patterns: the former two to Wells and Coolidge and the latter two to MacFarland and Roosevelt.

Agree. If they move schools out of Deal-Wilson, it will be a bunch of schools so none of them can say they were targeted.

Bancroft is an obvious choice, since it's gerrymandered into the Deal-Wilson catchment and just really far from the schools. Bancroft and O-A go to the dual language high schools, because duh. It's a waste of money to not send them there.

Shepherd and Lafayette will both be re-assigned at the same time for the purposes of political optics/CYA. They can't remove a school with UMC children of color (Shepherd) without removing a school filled with UMC white kids (Lafayette). Both or none.

And the sooner this happens the better.

I have a better suggestion: let’s split up DCPS into several autonomous local school districts. Then each one can decide how rigorous the curriculum needs to be, whether to track students academically or not, whether to spend funds on enrichment programs or instead on “esteem specialists,” and whether to have highly selective faculty hiring or rather to view the public schools as an employer of first resort and lifetime tenure for the “community.” Let’s devolve decision-making authority, and kids can go to their local schools where each such district makes its educational preferences heard through its elected school board. Then we can all give “DC political optics” a swift kick in the booty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So much to unpack it 14:54 tacitly racist/class-baiterism. Yuck. It bears noting that many UMC homes are “unstable” because of divorce, addiction, workaholicism, and other behaviors befitting narcissists who wax, masturbation-like, about being UMC or their property values. You did not inherit a feeder path to Deal/Wilson by virtue of divine right or jumbo mortgage. If you want to move to McLean - do it. Ward 4 schools should feed Ward 4. Moreover, Ward 4 students make up the bulk of OOB students. This is a tremendous waste when we have very expensive, shiny MS and HS in Ward 4. Similarly, if we really care about bilingualism- reroute OA/Bancroft to Macfarland/Roosevelt. Besides Lafayette- we will need another big school - to be reorganized into Hardy. Janney makes sense.

I think Hardy is getting to full to take on Janney. Back to the Duke Ellington suggestion, but I really do not see how this can help if any new seats or program is going to be offered city wide. Then there is Old Hardy, but I have not followed.

Oyster/Adams certainly can leave the feeder to Wilson, the middle school is in Dupont Circle so those kids can apply to CHEC as Spanish speakers, or go to the another Spanish speaking High school. Where the kids fromBancroft should also be heading. If everyone stops for a moment and collectively supports this the high school would be great, PARCC test results and all that, but it needs collective action. and that is a big challenge.

DCPS is not going to move Janney - a school that most of its students can walk to — from Deal, which is also walkable for the Janney community, to Hardy which is several miles away. That’s not eaxtly green planning and will only increase the carbon footprint of Janney students who rise to middle school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:21:08 Building a high school won't fly because is a huge amount of money to spend on a bunch of wealthy white families and besides that there is absolutely no place to put it that wouldn't cost even MORE money. Ain't happening.

According to comments in both of these threads, Bowser would be open to a new high school WOTP.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/764646.page#13992573

Here, someone speculates that such a high school would be open to all:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/90/772513.page#14200095

But where to put it? I know. Bye, bye, Duke Ellington!

What about moving Walls? I think that would be politically easier. It's roughly the same capacity as Ellington, 500-ish.

What’s with the walking on political eggshells where Ellington is concerned? Half of Ellington’s parents probably vote in PG not in DC.

[Anonymous]

There's a lot of land around Francis-Stevens (including a parking lot, and a field) that could be renovated into the new Western High School. Or it could retain its middle school as part of an "education campus" with middle/HS offerings. Hardy could feed right into the new Western campus.

If Hardy were taken out as a feeder to Wilson, access to Wilson from schools east of Connecticut Avenue could be maintained. Though the new Western HS wouldn't do much to ease Deal's overcrowding, unless one or two Deal elementary feeders were re-routed to Hardy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:21:08 Building a high school won't fly because is a huge amount of money to spend on a bunch of wealthy white families and besides that there is absolutely no place to put it that wouldn't cost even MORE money. Ain't happening.

According to comments in both of these threads, Bowser would be open to a new high school WOTP.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/764646.page#13992573

Here, someone speculates that such a high school would be open to all:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/90/772513.page#14200095

But where to put it? I know. Bye, bye, Duke Ellington!

What about moving Walls? I think that would be politically easier. It's roughly the same capacity as Ellington, 500-ish.

What’s with the walking on political eggshells where Ellington is concerned? Half of Ellington’s parents probably vote in PG not in DC.

Because Ellington is a success story. Graduates are sought after at leading arts, music and theatre programs — and many receive scholarships.

If you visit the school, you will see it would need complete interior renovation to function as a regular high school. That would be dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of land around Francis-Stevens (including a parking lot, and a field) that could be renovated into the new Western High School. Or it could retain its middle school as part of an "education campus" with middle/HS offerings. Hardy could feed right into the new Western campus.

If Hardy were taken out as a feeder to Wilson, access to Wilson from schools east of Connecticut Avenue could be maintained. Though the new Western HS wouldn't do much to ease Deal's overcrowding, unless one or two Deal elementary feeders were re-routed to Hardy.

Dumb. Just redraw lines and send students to underutilized schools. We have plenty of them. The park is not the DMZ dividing North Korea from South Korea. Students from WOTP - especially the eastern and southern portions can travel. Students in special program (I see you Adams) need to go to Roosevelt. There are no requirements that high schools be walking distance from students’ homes the way there is in elementary school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We don't have to choose among Shepherd, Lafayette, Bancroft, and Oyster. They should ALL have different feeder patterns: the former two to Wells and Coolidge and the latter two to MacFarland and Roosevelt.

Agree. If they move schools out of Deal-Wilson, it will be a bunch of schools so none of them can say they were targeted.

Bancroft is an obvious choice, since it's gerrymandered into the Deal-Wilson catchment and just really far from the schools. Bancroft and O-A go to the dual language high schools, because duh. It's a waste of money to not send them there.

Shepherd and Lafayette will both be re-assigned at the same time for the purposes of political optics/CYA. They can't remove a school with UMC children of color (Shepherd) without removing a school filled with UMC white kids (Lafayette). Both or none.

And the sooner this happens the better.

I have a better suggestion: let’s split up DCPS into several autonomous local school districts. Then each one can decide how rigorous the curriculum needs to be, whether to track students academically or not, whether to spend funds on enrichment programs or instead on “esteem specialists,” and whether to have highly selective faculty hiring or rather to view the public schools as an employer of first resort and lifetime tenure for the “community.” Let’s devolve decision-making authority, and kids can go to their local schools where each such district makes its educational preferences heard through its elected school board. Then we can all give “DC political optics” a swift kick in the booty.

I think you'd be much happier in VA --- farther out than Fairfax. Really. K thx bye!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m confused why Lafayette is a Ward 4 school. We are IB for Lafayette and live in Ward 3. The schools boundaries are not by ward!

Lafayette is IN Ward 4. Not that deep.

It may be in Ward 4, but remember, the line down Broad Branch Road was arbitrarily created not that long ago strictly to balance voters. It was never intended to have ANYTHING to do with schools. To imply otherwise is just somebody making stuff up.

I would say there's a much better case that school attendance boundaries are arbitrary than ward boundaries. What's so magical about Massachusetts Avenue that one side of it goes to Deal and the other to Hardy?

In outlook, Chevy Chase DC is very much oriented toward Ward 3, not Ward 4 - most of which lies east of the Park.

Outlook meaning pretentious bigot-y folks???

Meaning where schools, churches and synogogues, kids activities, shopping, neighborhood restaurants, libraries, transit nodes — point to Ward 4. Being part of Ward 4 was a political contrivance, that’s all.

Oh you are hilarious. My daycare/synagogue is in Ward 3 and I LOVE Rodman’s and TJ Max, so I guess my outlook points uniquely to Ward 3, FFS. What classist drivel.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We don't have to choose among Shepherd, Lafayette, Bancroft, and Oyster. They should ALL have different feeder patterns: the former two to Wells and Coolidge and the latter two to MacFarland and Roosevelt.

Agree. If they move schools out of Deal-Wilson, it will be a bunch of schools so none of them can say they were targeted.

Bancroft is an obvious choice, since it's gerrymandered into the Deal-Wilson catchment and just really far from the schools. Bancroft and O-A go to the dual language high schools, because duh. It's a waste of money to not send them there.

Shepherd and Lafayette will both be re-assigned at the same time for the purposes of political optics/CYA. They can't remove a school with UMC children of color (Shepherd) without removing a school filled with UMC white kids (Lafayette). Both or none.

And the sooner this happens the better.

I have a better suggestion: let’s split up DCPS into several autonomous local school districts. Then each one can decide how rigorous the curriculum needs to be, whether to track students academically or not, whether to spend funds on enrichment programs or instead on “esteem specialists,” and whether to have highly selective faculty hiring or rather to view the public schools as an employer of first resort and lifetime tenure for the “community.” Let’s devolve decision-making authority, and kids can go to their local schools where each such district makes its educational preferences heard through its elected school board. Then we can all give “DC political optics” a swift kick in the booty.

I think you'd be much happier in VA --- farther out than Fairfax. Really. K thx bye!

Bye Felicia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We don't have to choose among Shepherd, Lafayette, Bancroft, and Oyster. They should ALL have different feeder patterns: the former two to Wells and Coolidge and the latter two to MacFarland and Roosevelt.

Agree. If they move schools out of Deal-Wilson, it will be a bunch of schools so none of them can say they were targeted.

Bancroft is an obvious choice, since it's gerrymandered into the Deal-Wilson catchment and just really far from the schools. Bancroft and O-A go to the dual language high schools, because duh. It's a waste of money to not send them there.

Shepherd and Lafayette will both be re-assigned at the same time for the purposes of political optics/CYA. They can't remove a school with UMC children of color (Shepherd) without removing a school filled with UMC white kids (Lafayette). Both or none.

And the sooner this happens the better.

I have a better suggestion: let’s split up DCPS into several autonomous local school districts. Then each one can decide how rigorous the curriculum needs to be, whether to track students academically or not, whether to spend funds on enrichment programs or instead on “esteem specialists,” and whether to have highly selective faculty hiring or rather to view the public schools as an employer of first resort and lifetime tenure for the “community.” Let’s devolve decision-making authority, and kids can go to their local schools where each such district makes its educational preferences heard through its elected school board. Then we can all give “DC political optics” a swift kick in the booty.

That's how DCPS operated until Brown vs. Board of Education. There were two school systems, each with its own superintendent, school board, facilities, staff and curriculum. As an easy mnemonic to keep them straight they were color-coded, one was called the "white" system and the other the "black" system.

[Anonymous]

Everyone needs to chill. I’m a PP and I’ll repeat what I said. The review is not until ‘22 and won’t really begin until ,23. That means nothing will be finalized until ‘25 and there is always a lengthy grandfathering period. So no real changes will happen for 8-10 years. Won’t most of your kids be through Deal and onto Wilson? Why the angst for something that isn’t set in stone and is so far out?