Zoning Lafayette out of Deal/Wilson - is this real?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sadly, its a fair question to ask. It’s pretty clear that DCPS is out of answers on how to make EOTP schools attractive. And it’s clear from the last go around that there is little appetite for city wide schools. So it’s possible another WOTP school gets sacrificed. And LaFayette makes the most sense geographically and has the scale to flip an EOTP MS overnight. In terms of Ward 3 LaFayette is a political powerhouse, but they are a drop in the bucket citywide. Especially for a mayor who may not run for a 3rd term to actually spend time with her new child.

Er, no. Geographically, Shepherd and Bancroft are significantly farther to Deal — by miles — than Lafayette.

I realize the political / optics considerations are different and subjective. But you can't make up your own facts to replace objective truths that can be measured and replicated with reliable instruments.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, its a fair question to ask. It’s pretty clear that DCPS is out of answers on how to make EOTP schools attractive. And it’s clear from the last go around that there is little appetite for city wide schools. So it’s possible another WOTP school gets sacrificed. And LaFayette makes the most sense geographically and has the scale to flip an EOTP MS overnight. In terms of Ward 3 LaFayette is a political powerhouse, but they are a drop in the bucket citywide. Especially for a mayor who may not run for a 3rd term to actually spend time with her new child.

Er, no. Geographically, Shepherd and Bancroft are significantly farther to Deal — by miles — than Lafayette.

I realize the political / optics considerations are different and subjective. But you can't make up your own facts to replace objective truths that can be measured and replicated with reliable instruments.

Yes and Shepherd would be a drop in the bucket. Shepherd and Bancroft are not enough. They’s HAVE to move a larger school and Lafayette. It would make the most sense and only way to be be politically ok. My bet: if Shepherd goes, so does Lafayette. Period. Hate to say it as I live there but I’m being realistic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, its a fair question to ask. It’s pretty clear that DCPS is out of answers on how to make EOTP schools attractive. And it’s clear from the last go around that there is little appetite for city wide schools. So it’s possible another WOTP school gets sacrificed. And LaFayette makes the most sense geographically and has the scale to flip an EOTP MS overnight. In terms of Ward 3 LaFayette is a political powerhouse, but they are a drop in the bucket citywide. Especially for a mayor who may not run for a 3rd term to actually spend time with her new child.

Er, no. Geographically, Shepherd and Bancroft are significantly farther to Deal — by miles — than Lafayette.

I realize the political / optics considerations are different and subjective. But you can't make up your own facts to replace objective truths that can be measured and replicated with reliable instruments.

Removing Shepherd only cuts at most 50 kids. It is a tiny school.

[Anonymous]

Well, it happened to Eaton.
Geographically closer to Deal than Sheperd and Bancroft.
Drop in the bucket since many Eaton oob kids live in boundary for Deal. About half of Eaton 5th graders still go to Deal each year.
So logic never factors into DCPS decisions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, its a fair question to ask. It’s pretty clear that DCPS is out of answers on how to make EOTP schools attractive. And it’s clear from the last go around that there is little appetite for city wide schools. So it’s possible another WOTP school gets sacrificed. And LaFayette makes the most sense geographically and has the scale to flip an EOTP MS overnight. In terms of Ward 3 LaFayette is a political powerhouse, but they are a drop in the bucket citywide. Especially for a mayor who may not run for a 3rd term to actually spend time with her new child.

Er, no. Geographically, Shepherd and Bancroft are significantly farther to Deal — by miles — than Lafayette.

I realize the political / optics considerations are different and subjective. But you can't make up your own facts to replace objective truths that can be measured and replicated with reliable instruments.

Removing Shepherd only cuts at most 50 kids. It is a tiny school.

So add up multiple, far-away schools that are much, much closer to another middle school. For example:

Of the 5th graders taking PARCC last year …

Shepherd (47) + Bancroft (72) > Lafayette (97)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, its a fair question to ask. It’s pretty clear that DCPS is out of answers on how to make EOTP schools attractive. And it’s clear from the last go around that there is little appetite for city wide schools. So it’s possible another WOTP school gets sacrificed. And LaFayette makes the most sense geographically and has the scale to flip an EOTP MS overnight. In terms of Ward 3 LaFayette is a political powerhouse, but they are a drop in the bucket citywide. Especially for a mayor who may not run for a 3rd term to actually spend time with her new child.

Er, no. Geographically, Shepherd and Bancroft are significantly farther to Deal — by miles — than Lafayette.

I realize the political / optics considerations are different and subjective. But you can't make up your own facts to replace objective truths that can be measured and replicated with reliable instruments.

Removing Shepherd only cuts at most 50 kids. It is a tiny school.

So add up multiple, far-away schools that are much, much closer to another middle school. For example:

Of the 5th graders taking PARCC last year …

Shepherd (47) + Bancroft (72) > Lafayette (97)

The doesn't tell you how many Bancroft students will opt for MacFarland to continue with dual language, and how many from any of these schools leave for privates or anything else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, its a fair question to ask. It’s pretty clear that DCPS is out of answers on how to make EOTP schools attractive. And it’s clear from the last go around that there is little appetite for city wide schools. So it’s possible another WOTP school gets sacrificed. And LaFayette makes the most sense geographically and has the scale to flip an EOTP MS overnight. In terms of Ward 3 LaFayette is a political powerhouse, but they are a drop in the bucket citywide. Especially for a mayor who may not run for a 3rd term to actually spend time with her new child.

Er, no. Geographically, Shepherd and Bancroft are significantly farther to Deal — by miles — than Lafayette.

I realize the political / optics considerations are different and subjective. But you can't make up your own facts to replace objective truths that can be measured and replicated with reliable instruments.

Removing Shepherd only cuts at most 50 kids. It is a tiny school.

So add up multiple, far-away schools that are much, much closer to another middle school. For example:

Of the 5th graders taking PARCC last year …



Shepherd (47) + Bancroft (72) > Lafayette (97)

The doesn't tell you how many Bancroft students will opt for MacFarland to continue with dual language, and how many from any of these schools leave for privates or anything else.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, its a fair question to ask. It’s pretty clear that DCPS is out of answers on how to make EOTP schools attractive. And it’s clear from the last go around that there is little appetite for city wide schools. So it’s possible another WOTP school gets sacrificed. And LaFayette makes the most sense geographically and has the scale to flip an EOTP MS overnight. In terms of Ward 3 LaFayette is a political powerhouse, but they are a drop in the bucket citywide. Especially for a mayor who may not run for a 3rd term to actually spend time with her new child.

Er, no. Geographically, Shepherd and Bancroft are significantly farther to Deal — by miles — than Lafayette.

I realize the political / optics considerations are different and subjective. But you can't make up your own facts to replace objective truths that can be measured and replicated with reliable instruments.

Removing Shepherd only cuts at most 50 kids. It is a tiny school.

So add up multiple, far-away schools that are much, much closer to another middle school. For example:

Of the 5th graders taking PARCC last year …



Shepherd (47) + Bancroft (72) > Lafayette (97)

The doesn't tell you how many Bancroft students will opt for MacFarland to continue with dual language, and how many from any of these schools leave for privates or anything else.

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I agree with this and iof the 97 from Lafayette I would think it was much more likely that more kids go private than those from Bancroft or Shepherd. CCDC is a much wealthier area.

[Anonymous]

We don't have to choose among Shepherd, Lafayette, Bancroft, and Oyster. They should ALL have different feeder patterns: the former two to Wells and Coolidge and the latter two to MacFarland and Roosevelt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We don't have to choose among Shepherd, Lafayette, Bancroft, and Oyster. They should ALL have different feeder patterns: the former two to Wells and Coolidge and the latter two to MacFarland and Roosevelt.

Agree. If they move schools out of Deal-Wilson, it will be a bunch of schools so none of them can say they were targeted.

Bancroft is an obvious choice, since it's gerrymandered into the Deal-Wilson catchment and just really far from the schools. Bancroft and O-A go to the dual language high schools, because duh. It's a waste of money to not send them there.

Shepherd and Lafayette will both be re-assigned at the same time for the purposes of political optics/CYA. They can't remove a school with UMC children of color (Shepherd) without removing a school filled with UMC white kids (Lafayette). Both or none.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We don't have to choose among Shepherd, Lafayette, Bancroft, and Oyster. They should ALL have different feeder patterns: the former two to Wells and Coolidge and the latter two to MacFarland and Roosevelt.

Agree. If they move schools out of Deal-Wilson, it will be a bunch of schools so none of them can say they were targeted.

Bancroft is an obvious choice, since it's gerrymandered into the Deal-Wilson catchment and just really far from the schools. Bancroft and O-A go to the dual language high schools, because duh. It's a waste of money to not send them there.

Shepherd and Lafayette will both be re-assigned at the same time for the purposes of political optics/CYA. They can't remove a school with UMC children of color (Shepherd) without removing a school filled with UMC white kids (Lafayette). Both or none.

I don’t disagree but Crestwood was zoned out without a WOTP school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We don't have to choose among Shepherd, Lafayette, Bancroft, and Oyster. They should ALL have different feeder patterns: the former two to Wells and Coolidge and the latter two to MacFarland and Roosevelt.

Agree. If they move schools out of Deal-Wilson, it will be a bunch of schools so none of them can say they were targeted.

Bancroft is an obvious choice, since it's gerrymandered into the Deal-Wilson catchment and just really far from the schools. Bancroft and O-A go to the dual language high schools, because duh. It's a waste of money to not send them there.

Shepherd and Lafayette will both be re-assigned at the same time for the purposes of political optics/CYA. They can't remove a school with UMC children of color (Shepherd) without removing a school filled with UMC white kids (Lafayette). Both or none.

I don’t disagree but Crestwood was zoned out without a WOTP school.

That was slightly different. Crestwood neighborhood got zoned out as they aligned all elementary schools to feed to one middle. West never fed to Deal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, its a fair question to ask. It’s pretty clear that DCPS is out of answers on how to make EOTP schools attractive. And it’s clear from the last go around that there is little appetite for city wide schools. So it’s possible another WOTP school gets sacrificed. And LaFayette makes the most sense geographically and has the scale to flip an EOTP MS overnight. In terms of Ward 3 LaFayette is a political powerhouse, but they are a drop in the bucket citywide. Especially for a mayor who may not run for a 3rd term to actually spend time with her new child.

Er, no. Geographically, Shepherd and Bancroft are significantly farther to Deal — by miles — than Lafayette.

I realize the political / optics considerations are different and subjective. But you can't make up your own facts to replace objective truths that can be measured and replicated with reliable instruments.

Removing Shepherd only cuts at most 50 kids. It is a tiny school.

So add up multiple, far-away schools that are much, much closer to another middle school. For example:

Of the 5th graders taking PARCC last year …



Shepherd (47) + Bancroft (72) > Lafayette (97)

The doesn't tell you how many Bancroft students will opt for MacFarland to continue with dual language, and how many from any of these schools leave for privates or anything else.

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I agree with this and iof the 97 from Lafayette I would think it was much more likely that more kids go private than those from Bancroft or Shepherd. CCDC is a much wealthier area.

You would be wrong. There are def tons of private students IB for Shepherd.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, its a fair question to ask. It’s pretty clear that DCPS is out of answers on how to make EOTP schools attractive. And it’s clear from the last go around that there is little appetite for city wide schools. So it’s possible another WOTP school gets sacrificed. And LaFayette makes the most sense geographically and has the scale to flip an EOTP MS overnight. In terms of Ward 3 LaFayette is a political powerhouse, but they are a drop in the bucket citywide. Especially for a mayor who may not run for a 3rd term to actually spend time with her new child.

Er, no. Geographically, Shepherd and Bancroft are significantly farther to Deal — by miles — than Lafayette.

I realize the political / optics considerations are different and subjective. But you can't make up your own facts to replace objective truths that can be measured and replicated with reliable instruments.

Removing Shepherd only cuts at most 50 kids. It is a tiny school.

So add up multiple, far-away schools that are much, much closer to another middle school. For example:

Of the 5th graders taking PARCC last year …

Shepherd (47) + Bancroft (72) > Lafayette (97)

I wouldn’t say much, much further. Lafayette is not closer to Wells and there are many parts of Shepherd Park is only 0.5 mile difference than Wells but longer drive time to Wells. Not refuting much else but wanted to clarify that.

[Anonymous]

IF any boundaries are redrawn, distance will not be the only factor.

Equity and will be equally important based on everything DCPS, the mayor and most members of the council say about education issues.