WaPo takes deep dive into DCPS residency fraud

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Anonymous wrote:once again, "the legacy of racism" justifies the problem, the illegality, or the rule-breaking. Rather than being appalled at the rationalization, I think spending time to contemplate that perspective explains a lot.

It is just outrageous that they feel it’s a right because they were born here. That isn’t how life works for anybody! They likely moved out to the suburbs because they wanted a bigger house for less.

That entitlement is a problem and needs to be met head on. This sense of a "right" coupled with the apparent fact that a large proportion are DC government employees shows clearly why OSSE and even the Council are not rushing to hire a full team of fraud investigators.

A large percentage of the DC government workforce lives not in DC but in PG. DC schools provide free pre-K and favorable before and after school care, closer to mom or dad's workplace. Add to that the almost Communist Party-era sense of entitlement for government functionaries, and is it any wonder that such parents have no problem working the system (i.e., cheating the system) for a cheaper/better/more convenient school "option"?

Where has it been shown that a large proportion of residency cheaters are DC government employees? There's been no concrete data about this.

The non-DC families I know who are enrolled in DC schools aren't government employees and don't have jobs in DC at all.

Most of those coming into the city everyday from the burbs are Feds, they are using the preK/K slots.

Feds? Or DC gov? And where are you seeing this data, particularly with regards to preK/K?

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What’s your source?

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Anonymous wrote:Prince George’s has more affordable housing. More house for less money. But he schools aren’t great. And there is no PK3.

There are also some who feel a connection to the school they attended, and want their kids to graduate from their alma mater. But they can’t afford to buy a nice house IB for those schools.

If they wanted to keep their children in DC schools, they should have thought twice before moving out of DC lol!

Seriously Ihave a hard time believing that schools in Prince George's are worse than DC. I'm amazed at how bad the public schools are here and that people are lying to get in. I attended public school in the Midwest.My community there would never have stood for any of the bs that's happening here. We haven't lived here long, but have already decided to do private!

Look at the Prince George’s PARCC scores. They are about the same as DC and a number of DC schools are better.

Overall, just like DC there are pockets of generational poverty and struggling schools.

Not in Upper Marlboro. That's scam central in PG.

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I have no idea how to get a certified tax return. If TurboTax doesn't provide it, I don't have it. And my income is no ones business anyway.

Have the DC tax office produce a list of residents by the address they used on their tax return. Anyone not on the list or claiming a different address must jump through big hoopa.

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Anonymous wrote:once again, "the legacy of racism" justifies the problem, the illegality, or the rule-breaking. Rather than being appalled at the rationalization, I think spending time to contemplate that perspective explains a lot.

It is just outrageous that they feel it’s a right because they were born here. That isn’t how life works for anybody! They likely moved out to the suburbs because they wanted a bigger house for less.

That entitlement is a problem and needs to be met head on. This sense of a "right" coupled with the apparent fact that a large proportion are DC government employees shows clearly why OSSE and even the Council are not rushing to hire a full team of fraud investigators.

A large percentage of the DC government workforce lives not in DC but in PG. DC schools provide free pre-K and favorable before and after school care, closer to mom or dad's workplace. Add to that the almost Communist Party-era sense of entitlement for government functionaries, and is it any wonder that such parents have no problem working the system (i.e., cheating the system) for a cheaper/better/more convenient school "option"?

Where has it been shown that a large proportion of residency cheaters are DC government employees? There's been no concrete data about this.

The non-DC families I know who are enrolled in DC schools aren't government employees and don't have jobs in DC at all.

The WaPo article that started this thread noted this from the documented fraud cases. DC employees, including Kaya Henderson’s assistant.

[Anonymous]

Re: Maryland plates as evidence of cheating - I was surprised to learn that you can keep your plates registered elsewhere if you do not utilize street parking (driveway, garage, off-street). If you are off-street, you cannot be cited for ROSA violations.

I know that insurance rates are MUCH lower you can claim a suburban address. My rates doubled when I moved from Arlington to Chicago, and doubled AGAIN when I moved from Chicago to DC (same car, which was by then 8 years old). In DC you have the comprehensive risks for theft/break-in/hit and run, plus higher collision repair costs. Plus just being part of a worse/uninsured driver pool.

I have several neighbors who use their parents' address for car registration (though all send their kids to private MS and HS anyway). Not every MD-plated car may be a residency cheater. Though they are cheating their insurance companies and not paying DC for utilizing their (fine) roads.

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Anonymous wrote:Re: Maryland plates as evidence of cheating - I was surprised to learn that you can keep your plates registered elsewhere if you do not utilize street parking (driveway, garage, off-street). If you are off-street, you cannot be cited for ROSA violations.

I know that insurance rates are MUCH lower you can claim a suburban address. My rates doubled when I moved from Arlington to Chicago, and doubled AGAIN when I moved from Chicago to DC (same car, which was by then 8 years old). In DC you have the comprehensive risks for theft/break-in/hit and run, plus higher collision repair costs. Plus just being part of a worse/uninsured driver pool.

I have several neighbors who use their parents' address for car registration (though all send their kids to private MS and HS anyway). Not every MD-plated car may be a residency cheater. Though they are cheating their insurance companies and not paying DC for utilizing their (fine) roads.

Except in upper NW, very little off-street parking in DC, mainly street.

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You CAN keep your plates registered, but it is not legal to do so if you are a DC resident (ie, not working for a member of congress or a students).

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Anonymous wrote:Re: Maryland plates as evidence of cheating - I was surprised to learn that you can keep your plates registered elsewhere if you do not utilize street parking (driveway, garage, off-street). If you are off-street, you cannot be cited for ROSA violations.

I know that insurance rates are MUCH lower you can claim a suburban address. My rates doubled when I moved from Arlington to Chicago, and doubled AGAIN when I moved from Chicago to DC (same car, which was by then 8 years old). In DC you have the comprehensive risks for theft/break-in/hit and run, plus higher collision repair costs. Plus just being part of a worse/uninsured driver pool.

I have several neighbors who use their parents' address for car registration (though all send their kids to private MS and HS anyway). Not every MD-plated car may be a residency cheater. Though they are cheating their insurance companies and not paying DC for utilizing their (fine) roads.

I don't think that you're correct about the law, but are correct as a practical enforcement matter. But if you're right, then school authorities should take a close look at such parents driving MD cars and quickly resolve the matter. Nothing to worry about (Of course, then DCPS/OSSE should also refer the MD plates to DMV for a closer look.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Re: Maryland plates as evidence of cheating - I was surprised to learn that you can keep your plates registered elsewhere if you do not utilize street parking (driveway, garage, off-street). If you are off-street, you cannot be cited for ROSA violations.

I know that insurance rates are MUCH lower you can claim a suburban address. My rates doubled when I moved from Arlington to Chicago, and doubled AGAIN when I moved from Chicago to DC (same car, which was by then 8 years old). In DC you have the comprehensive risks for theft/break-in/hit and run, plus higher collision repair costs. Plus just being part of a worse/uninsured driver pool.

I have several neighbors who use their parents' address for car registration (though all send their kids to private MS and HS anyway). Not every MD-plated car may be a residency cheater. Though they are cheating their insurance companies and not paying DC for utilizing their (fine) roads.

So they are defrauding the insurance company. How honourable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Re: Maryland plates as evidence of cheating - I was surprised to learn that you can keep your plates registered elsewhere if you do not utilize street parking (driveway, garage, off-street). If you are off-street, you cannot be cited for ROSA violations.

I know that insurance rates are MUCH lower you can claim a suburban address. My rates doubled when I moved from Arlington to Chicago, and doubled AGAIN when I moved from Chicago to DC (same car, which was by then 8 years old). In DC you have the comprehensive risks for theft/break-in/hit and run, plus higher collision repair costs. Plus just being part of a worse/uninsured driver pool.

I have several neighbors who use their parents' address for car registration (though all send their kids to private MS and HS anyway). Not every MD-plated car may be a residency cheater. Though they are cheating their insurance companies and not paying DC for utilizing their (fine) roads.

I mean, you can try to pull that off -- and you very well might get away with it -- but it's technically against the law, which says you have 30 days to register your car after establishing residency. Eventually they're gonna find you -- they always find a way, no matter if you're usually parking your car off-street -- and start handing out $100 tickets.

https://www.dmv.org/washington-dc/car-registration.php

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Re: Maryland plates as evidence of cheating - I was surprised to learn that you can keep your plates registered elsewhere if you do not utilize street parking (driveway, garage, off-street). If you are off-street, you cannot be cited for ROSA violations.

I know that insurance rates are MUCH lower you can claim a suburban address. My rates doubled when I moved from Arlington to Chicago, and doubled AGAIN when I moved from Chicago to DC (same car, which was by then 8 years old). In DC you have the comprehensive risks for theft/break-in/hit and run, plus higher collision repair costs. Plus just being part of a worse/uninsured driver pool.

I have several neighbors who use their parents' address for car registration (though all send their kids to private MS and HS anyway). Not every MD-plated car may be a residency cheater. Though they are cheating their insurance companies and not paying DC for utilizing their (fine) roads.

So they are defrauding the insurance company. How honourable.

Yup, one way or the other they are committing a fraud.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Re: Maryland plates as evidence of cheating - I was surprised to learn that you can keep your plates registered elsewhere if you do not utilize street parking (driveway, garage, off-street). If you are off-street, you cannot be cited for ROSA violations.

I know that insurance rates are MUCH lower you can claim a suburban address. My rates doubled when I moved from Arlington to Chicago, and doubled AGAIN when I moved from Chicago to DC (same car, which was by then 8 years old). In DC you have the comprehensive risks for theft/break-in/hit and run, plus higher collision repair costs. Plus just being part of a worse/uninsured driver pool.

I have several neighbors who use their parents' address for car registration (though all send their kids to private MS and HS anyway). Not every MD-plated car may be a residency cheater. Though they are cheating their insurance companies and not paying DC for utilizing their (fine) roads.

Except in upper NW, very little off-street parking in DC, mainly street.

What? I live in NE and there is tons of street parking AND off-street parking. Nearly every row house and small condo building has an off-street parking pad. The only places that are hard to park on the street are downtown, Georgetown, Ward 1, and parts of the Hill.

[Anonymous]

I love Tom Sherwood's comment on this. He's 100 percent right. Too bad he's not on the council.

https://twitter.com/tomsherwood/status/986598935010643968

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Anonymous wrote:I love Tom Sherwood's comment on this. He's 100 percent right. Too bad he's not on the council.

https://twitter.com/tomsherwood/status/986598935010643968

Right? When the excuse is "it's hard to know the residency and guardianship status of our most vulnerable students", my response is, you should work on that! Those are the kids our government should be taking the most care of, paying the most attention to. (I don't want to malign the teachers and social workers who care about and work hard for vulnerable kids, just slam Grosso/"the system" for throwing up their hands.)