How many tattoos do you have? Do you think tattoos look sleazy on women?

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of things weren't accepted until lately. Many of those things are absolutely of no affect on anyone outside of the person doing it, like tattoos, or being who they are, like being gay. But boy, do people love to look at other people and judge them right up.
I have posted on this thread several times about judging people superficially. It limits your life.
I went to a bbq on the fourth of July. It was a wonderful gathering, full of hugs and laughter. In attendance were those with tattoos, and those without. Some had many visible tattoos, some had hidden ones. There were musicians, artists, independent film makers, writers- about 2/3 of the attendees were in the arts. We all have regular jobs, in addition. This bunch of people are some of the sweetest, inclusive humans I've ever met. Anyone could have sat down with them, and they would have been told where the food was, and engaged in conversation, with no judgment. Body art isn't something to judge. It just is, like the footwear I might wear today, or the jacket I put on, or my hair style. It's me, or it's someone else.
I truly believe that judging someone based on external appearance is not just wrong, but self limiting. The moment you believe that you are better than someone else, based on dress, hair, tattoos, etc, you've missed a chance to learn about someone new, and their story.

calm down. Just because I think tattoos *look* trashy doesn't mean I think the person themselves is automatically a trashy person. Big difference.

Eh. I'm quite calm. But I do feel strongly about this. I think true maturity is not looking at others and making derogatory comments about their appearance. Try it sometime. Instead, notice something interesting about them. If you can't say anything nice.... and I'm far from perfect, but with practice, my mind doesn't go straight to looking at a stranger and thinking, ugh, or blah blah. It's called allowing others their humanity and dignity. Calling an element of dress or design on a person trashy does judge their character, no matter what you think. Judgement should be saved for what is inside the human.

I try it every day, actually. I do all the stuff you say and I still think *in my head* that tattoos look trashy. But I just don't focus on that. I get to know the person and, as you say, notice something interesting about them.

Your posts are so smug and insulting that I can't possibly believe you are as nice and accepting as you want us to believe. You can't possibly tell me you never think judgemental things *in your head* about other people. We all do. You are judging people who typed on an anonymous forum that they admit they think tattoos look trashy and daring to tell us all how we behave based on this. Look in the mirror and take your own advice.

I never said I never. I said I'm not perfect, no one is. But if you spend time talking about how trashy other people look, what does that say about you?
I spend a ton of time looking at my internal mirror and trying so hard to be a decent person. It isn't easy to be good to other people. I apologize if I sound smug, but I swear you'd think I was just a big introverted nerd if you met me. I was badly abused early in life, and made a vow to always try and be good to others as much I could. Early on, I was a doormat. Then, I was a messed up mess in my 30's. I spent tons of time judging others. Then I started some meditation and hard work on myself.
I agree with you, we do all judge. I judge others based upon how they act , especially towards other people and animals. I think what you say online is who you are in your life, so these threads based on bashing other people are kinda mean. Why is it ok for you guys to go on for pages, calling people trash- and a lot of people did use that term for people, not just the tattoos - and if someone calls it out, they are smug?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, I can't believe all the tattoo haters. I mostly find them attractive on both men and women but of course it depends on how they're done and how they fit with the overall look of the person that has them.

Why do you call people who doesn't like tattoo haters? I don't hate them, it's just a matter of taste, you like one thing, I like something else. Just because I have a different taste and treat my body differently, doesn't make me a hater.

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I don't have any. I could never pick an image that I would forever want on my body. My tastes change over time. Also, the pain of getting a tattoo is a off putting.

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Anonymous wrote:Zero. And they look trashy on men too. It is really one of the worst fads ever.

I don't think it's a "fad." Haven't people been getting tattoos for hundreds of years?

Yes they have been aroung a longggg time by other civilizations, i have no idea why some people think this is s new fad.

Because as recently as thirty years ago, military vets and "toughs," as my dad would say, were the only regular American people who got tattoos. Yes, tattoos have very long tribal traditions in various places around the world, but not so much for middle class Americans. You know that. You're playing dumb.

No, for middle class Americans, it's a different rite of passage. They are often done when the person is in college or in young adulthood. It's a symbol of the person taking control of his or her own body and doing what he/she wants with it. You're old enough that you can get a tattoo without your parents' permission. You are old enough to sign your own waiver. You are old enough to pay for it yourself. You get to choose your own art and artist.

Sorry that you don't find that meaningful.

A) yeah, I don't. I don't care, because that's not meaningful. My god, make a doctor's appointment. Graduate. Sign a loan or a lease - these are all more meaningful and mature than having ink pushed into your skin with a needle. B) none of your rant answers the fact that for most Americans, tattoos were unacceptable until fairly recently, let alone the disgustingly visible and meaningless neck, chest and sleeve tattoos that proliferate today.

You sound old.

You sound low class.

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Anonymous wrote:Zero. And they look trashy on men too. It is really one of the worst fads ever.

I don't think it's a "fad." Haven't people been getting tattoos for hundreds of years?

Yes they have been aroung a longggg time by other civilizations, i have no idea why some people think this is s new fad.

Because as recently as thirty years ago, military vets and "toughs," as my dad would say, were the only regular American people who got tattoos. Yes, tattoos have very long tribal traditions in various places around the world, but not so much for middle class Americans. You know that. You're playing dumb.

No, for middle class Americans, it's a different rite of passage. They are often done when the person is in college or in young adulthood. It's a symbol of the person taking control of his or her own body and doing what he/she wants with it. You're old enough that you can get a tattoo without your parents' permission. You are old enough to sign your own waiver. You are old enough to pay for it yourself. You get to choose your own art and artist.

Sorry that you don't find that meaningful.

A) yeah, I don't. I don't care, because that's not meaningful. My god, make a doctor's appointment. Graduate. Sign a loan or a lease - these are all more meaningful and mature than having ink pushed into your skin with a needle. B) none of your rant answers the fact that for most Americans, tattoos were unacceptable until fairly recently, let alone the disgustingly visible and meaningless neck, chest and sleeve tattoos that proliferate today.

You sound old.

You sound low class.

Exactly what I was talking about. Calling someone low class based on body art.
I went to an art show last night, of fantastic realism. Artists from Europe and US were there. The work was exquisite and inspiring. Very beautiful.
Many of the artists had visible body art. But oh wait, they are just low class trailer trash, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Zero. And they look trashy on men too. It is really one of the worst fads ever.

I don't think it's a "fad." Haven't people been getting tattoos for hundreds of years?

Yes they have been aroung a longggg time by other civilizations, i have no idea why some people think this is s new fad.

Because as recently as thirty years ago, military vets and "toughs," as my dad would say, were the only regular American people who got tattoos. Yes, tattoos have very long tribal traditions in various places around the world, but not so much for middle class Americans. You know that. You're playing dumb.

No, for middle class Americans, it's a different rite of passage. They are often done when the person is in college or in young adulthood. It's a symbol of the person taking control of his or her own body and doing what he/she wants with it. You're old enough that you can get a tattoo without your parents' permission. You are old enough to sign your own waiver. You are old enough to pay for it yourself. You get to choose your own art and artist.

Sorry that you don't find that meaningful.

A) yeah, I don't. I don't care, because that's not meaningful. My god, make a doctor's appointment. Graduate. Sign a loan or a lease - these are all more meaningful and mature than having ink pushed into your skin with a needle. B) none of your rant answers the fact that for most Americans, tattoos were unacceptable until fairly recently, let alone the disgustingly visible and meaningless neck, chest and sleeve tattoos that proliferate today.

You sound old.

You sound low class.

You're a classist to go with the enormous amount of personal rigidity? Nice.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't hate them or find them sinful - I just honestly don't get the point.

I don't get the point of nail polish or earrings or mascara designer handbags or a myriad of other things. Most decorative body stuff and fashion is pretty pointless. People just like the way it looks or feels, and that is subjective.

But you don't have to wear your "pretty pointless" nail polish or earrings or mascara designer handbag or a myriad of other things FOREVER.

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I don't have any. A few of my friends have some, one has a lot. I cannot imagine what her skin is going to look like when she's older. Wrinkled and saggy artwork?

Some of them are beautiful right now. They all have meaning to her, and I love the meaning behind them up. It's just the aging thing that makes me wonder.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have any. A few of my friends have some, one has a lot. I cannot imagine what her skin is going to look like when she's older. Wrinkled and saggy artwork?

Some of them are beautiful right now. They all have meaning to her, and I love the meaning behind them up. It's just the aging thing that makes me wonder.

A friend of mine asked me this about mine - but I reminded her, when I'm a saggy old hag, I'm going to look like shit anyway tattoos or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Zero. And they look trashy on men too. It is really one of the worst fads ever.

I don't think it's a "fad." Haven't people been getting tattoos for hundreds of years?

Yes they have been aroung a longggg time by other civilizations, i have no idea why some people think this is s new fad.

Because as recently as thirty years ago, military vets and "toughs," as my dad would say, were the only regular American people who got tattoos. Yes, tattoos have very long tribal traditions in various places around the world, but not so much for middle class Americans. You know that. You're playing dumb.

No, for middle class Americans, it's a different rite of passage. They are often done when the person is in college or in young adulthood. It's a symbol of the person taking control of his or her own body and doing what he/she wants with it. You're old enough that you can get a tattoo without your parents' permission. You are old enough to sign your own waiver. You are old enough to pay for it yourself. You get to choose your own art and artist.

Sorry that you don't find that meaningful.

A) yeah, I don't. I don't care, because that's not meaningful. My god, make a doctor's appointment. Graduate. Sign a loan or a lease - these are all more meaningful and mature than having ink pushed into your skin with a needle. B) none of your rant answers the fact that for most Americans, tattoos were unacceptable until fairly recently, let alone the disgustingly visible and meaningless neck, chest and sleeve tattoos that proliferate today.

You sound old.

You sound low class.

You're a classist to go with the enormous amount of personal rigidity? Nice.

You guys get there's more than one poster on here, yes? I was the one who said a) b), and I haven't called anyone low class.

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A tattoo says to me that you are a person lacking in wisdom and good judgment. Tattoos are associated with the criminal class, with prostitutes, drug addicts, and other undesirables.

That you would want to associate with the filth of society speaks to me what is inside your heart, that you are foolish and untrustworthy.

Unless you cover them up you will not get hired, will not work for me. If by some chance you are working for me, I will see to it you do not participate in any task that requires morality such as handling large sums of money, for I assume you to be a criminal.

Tramp Stamp is an appropriate term. Don't brand yourself as a piece of garbage.

It means in my heart that I am a Christian and I don't disdain associating with anyone. Jesus associated with "those people" and he was pretty clear that whatever you do to the least of His brothers, that you do unto Him.

That is right: as a Christian you do not disdain from associating with people, you treat them with dignity and respect, but you do not go get drunk or inject heroin along with the sinners in associating with them. You don't get tattoos, and you do not have sex with prostitutes then say "Oh what a good Christian I am, sinning with the sinners and associating with them just like Jesus did." Jesus did not partake of their sins but was there to tell them to repent and stop sinning.

There is a huge difference between reaching out to sinners and participating in the sins of those sinners. Yes, Jesus did associate with drunks, losers, whores, and people with tattoos but Jesus did not have tattoos. He would not have because it is forbidden:

Do not cut your bodies for the dead, and do not mark your skin with tattoos. I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:28

Well, I assume you don't cut your hair?

You shall not round off the hair on your temples or mar the edges of your beard. (That is the quote from Leviticus right before the one you quoted). If you won't tattoo I assume your side hair is long like Hasidic Jews? Or do you pick and choose random biblical passages?

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Funny you ask this. I just saw a shirt at the mall that said

Tattoed and employed

It made me laugh because all I could think about was "But where are you employed?" and the fact that you have to defend yourself speaks volumes.

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A tattoo says to me that you are a person lacking in wisdom and good judgment. Tattoos are associated with the criminal class, with prostitutes, drug addicts, and other undesirables.

That you would want to associate with the filth of society speaks to me what is inside your heart, that you are foolish and untrustworthy.

Unless you cover them up you will not get hired, will not work for me. If by some chance you are working for me, I will see to it you do not participate in any task that requires morality such as handling large sums of money, for I assume you to be a criminal.

Tramp Stamp is an appropriate term. Don't brand yourself as a piece of garbage.

It means in my heart that I am a Christian and I don't disdain associating with anyone. Jesus associated with "those people" and he was pretty clear that whatever you do to the least of His brothers, that you do unto Him.

That is right: as a Christian you do not disdain from associating with people, you treat them with dignity and respect, but you do not go get drunk or inject heroin along with the sinners in associating with them. You don't get tattoos, and you do not have sex with prostitutes then say "Oh what a good Christian I am, sinning with the sinners and associating with them just like Jesus did." Jesus did not partake of their sins but was there to tell them to repent and stop sinning.

There is a huge difference between reaching out to sinners and participating in the sins of those sinners. Yes, Jesus did associate with drunks, losers, whores, and people with tattoos but Jesus did not have tattoos. He would not have because it is forbidden:

Do not cut your bodies for the dead, and do not mark your skin with tattoos. I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:28

Well, I assume you don't cut your hair?

You shall not round off the hair on your temples or mar the edges of your beard. (That is the quote from Leviticus right before the one you quoted). If you won't tattoo I assume your side hair is long like Hasidic Jews? Or do you pick and choose random biblical passages?

Or cook with meat and milk? Or eat pork or shellfish? Or wear fabric that mixes types of wool?

As soon as you quote Leviticus and aren't Orthodox Jewish...you lose the argument and out yourself as a religious hypocrite.

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Anonymous wrote:Zero. And they look trashy on men too. It is really one of the worst fads ever.

I don't think it's a "fad." Haven't people been getting tattoos for hundreds of years?

Yes they have been aroung a longggg time by other civilizations, i have no idea why some people think this is s new fad.

Because as recently as thirty years ago, military vets and "toughs," as my dad would say, were the only regular American people who got tattoos. Yes, tattoos have very long tribal traditions in various places around the world, but not so much for middle class Americans. You know that. You're playing dumb.

No, for middle class Americans, it's a different rite of passage. They are often done when the person is in college or in young adulthood. It's a symbol of the person taking control of his or her own body and doing what he/she wants with it. You're old enough that you can get a tattoo without your parents' permission. You are old enough to sign your own waiver. You are old enough to pay for it yourself. You get to choose your own art and artist.

Sorry that you don't find that meaningful.

A) yeah, I don't. I don't care, because that's not meaningful. My god, make a doctor's appointment. Graduate. Sign a loan or a lease - these are all more meaningful and mature than having ink pushed into your skin with a needle. B) none of your rant answers the fact that for most Americans, tattoos were unacceptable until fairly recently, let alone the disgustingly visible and meaningless neck, chest and sleeve tattoos that proliferate today.

You sound old.

You sound low class.

Exactly what I was talking about. Calling someone low class based on body art.
I went to an art show last night, of fantastic realism. Artists from Europe and US were there. The work was exquisite and inspiring. Very beautiful.
Many of the artists had visible body art. But oh wait, they are just low class trailer trash, right?

Most DCUM posters are office drones. They don't have the freedom to choose sandals over flats for work, much less body art. The rest are SAHMs who desperately need to keep up appearances.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny you ask this. I just saw a shirt at the mall that said

Tattoed and employed

It made me laugh because all I could think about was "But where are you employed?" and the fact that you have to defend yourself speaks volumes.

Big law partner, just nothing visible in a suit