Southern Charm

[Anonymous]

Yeah the thing I don't get is WHY Thomas and Landon would lie about it. He and Kathryn weren't a couple. Just because they have kids and he occasionally fucks her doesn't mean he can't see others, even if Kathryn knows them. They're actually all good on that front. But then why lie? Especially to someone you KNOW to be a psycho hosebeast.

[Anonymous]

Also did bravo somehow engineer Shep bringing Landon's "friend" Robyn as a date to act as a deus ex machina by dropping the "I wonder if Landon will admit she slept with Thomas" line? Because all season it's been painted like Kathryn just hates Landon for being friends with Thomas; of true, the fact she slept with Thomas does put things into context. And also, why would you say that about your FRIEND!?

[Anonymous]

Pressed enter too soon. So either Robyn is either the world's crappiest friend or just an agent of chaos on behalf of Bravo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah the thing I don't get is WHY Thomas and Landon would lie about it. He and Kathryn weren't a couple. Just because they have kids and he occasionally fucks her doesn't mean he can't see others, even if Kathryn knows them. They're actually all good on that front. But then why lie? Especially to someone you KNOW to be a psycho hosebeast.

I think they lied about it because Kathryn is so unstable. Bunny boiler anyone? I'm sure he was concerned about the well-being of his children (remember how worried he was about her stress level?). She did give birth to a preemie and we now know that she smoked/did drugs throughout her pregnancy.

Anyway, Kathryn slept with all of Thomas' friends, plus we know that she was sleeping around with others, hence the multiple paternity tests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pressed enter too soon. So either Robyn is either the world's crappiest friend or just an agent of chaos on behalf of Bravo.

I love this! And I do think that is her role.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah the thing I don't get is WHY Thomas and Landon would lie about it. He and Kathryn weren't a couple. Just because they have kids and he occasionally fucks her doesn't mean he can't see others, even if Kathryn knows them. They're actually all good on that front. But then why lie? Especially to someone you KNOW to be a psycho hosebeast.

I think Landon is invested in lying about sleeping with Thomas because I think she actually believes she is the cute and zany girl she is trying so desperately to present herself as in TV land.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah the thing I don't get is WHY Thomas and Landon would lie about it. He and Kathryn weren't a couple. Just because they have kids and he occasionally fucks her doesn't mean he can't see others, even if Kathryn knows them. They're actually all good on that front. But then why lie? Especially to someone you KNOW to be a psycho hosebeast.

I think Landon is invested in lying about sleeping with Thomas because I think she actually believes she is the cute and zany girl she is trying so desperately to present herself as in TV land.

WHY doesn't her dad sit her down and tell her that she sounds like an idiot when she puts on the baby voice? Why? Landon was laying on the baby talk thicker than ever in this episode. God, can you imagine sitting across from that at family Thanksgiving or something?

[Anonymous]

See I disagree. That's her voice. She's had it since the minute she came on screen. Yes it's got a strange accent and pitch but she has always sounded like that. Probably endearing to some and annoying to others. Maybe her dad doesn't mind? Frankly I would be pissed if my dad sat me down to talk to me about my voice. Like you can easily change that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:See I disagree. That's her voice. She's had it since the minute she came on screen. Yes it's got a strange accent and pitch but she has always sounded like that. Probably endearing to some and annoying to others. Maybe her dad doesn't mind? Frankly I would be pissed if my dad sat me down to talk to me about my voice. Like you can easily change that.

Actually, my own dad did point it out when I lapsed into using "like" in high school, and I'm really grateful to him for doing this, and for insisting that I speak like an intelligent adult. He would also playfully repeat my sentences back to me if I ended them on an up-tone/question, and again, while this was infuriating at the time, I'm grateful to him for making me aware of how ridiculous it is to speak like a little girl. These are two things that ARE easy to fix, and it says a lot about this girl-woman's family that she is now 35 years old and speaks with the stupid little-girl affectations. These are absolutely something she can fix, and I'm shocked no one has pointed them out to her: did you hear Landon when she went into her business meeting with Lockhart? She sounded like a moron, and a good friend or her dad (I'm mentioning him because he was shown giving her life/business advice on the show) could have mentioned to her that speech and tone are very important in a business meeting, and that confident speech and a straight gaze (as opposed to "like...like...like" and simpering squints off into space) go a long way in ensuring that one is communicating an image of competence. Clearly nobody ever practiced interview skills with Landon (or talking-like-a-big-girl skills). It is NOT just "her voice", and the fact that she's so old and still speaks this way indicates that her friends/family infantilize her somewhat, I think. Plus, she seems to have the self-awareness of a gnat.

I've really learned the meaning of "hate-watch" from this show/Landon, though.

[Anonymous]

It's not so much the pitch of her voice it's that she seems to slur or sounds high whenever she talks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:See I disagree. That's her voice. She's had it since the minute she came on screen. Yes it's got a strange accent and pitch but she has always sounded like that. Probably endearing to some and annoying to others. Maybe her dad doesn't mind? Frankly I would be pissed if my dad sat me down to talk to me about my voice. Like you can easily change that.

Actually, my own dad did point it out when I lapsed into using "like" in high school, and I'm really grateful to him for doing this, and for insisting that I speak like an intelligent adult. He would also playfully repeat my sentences back to me if I ended them on an up-tone/question, and again, while this was infuriating at the time, I'm grateful to him for making me aware of how ridiculous it is to speak like a little girl. These are two things that ARE easy to fix, and it says a lot about this girl-woman's family that she is now 35 years old and speaks with the stupid little-girl affectations. These are absolutely something she can fix, and I'm shocked no one has pointed them out to her: did you hear Landon when she went into her business meeting with Lockhart? She sounded like a moron, and a good friend or her dad (I'm mentioning him because he was shown giving her life/business advice on the show) could have mentioned to her that speech and tone are very important in a business meeting, and that confident speech and a straight gaze (as opposed to "like...like...like" and simpering squints off into space) go a long way in ensuring that one is communicating an image of competence. Clearly nobody ever practiced interview skills with Landon (or talking-like-a-big-girl skills). It is NOT just "her voice", and the fact that she's so old and still speaks this way indicates that her friends/family infantilize her somewhat, I think. Plus, she seems to have the self-awareness of a gnat.

I've really learned the meaning of "hate-watch" from this show/Landon, though.

Yeah you are super invested in her voice. Your dad should talk to you about your long windedness on boring subjects.

[Anonymous]

Landon's voice is annoying, but it's her voice. It's not contrived. Her sister even sounds the same! It's time to let all of the harping on Landon's voice stop. It's annoying.

It's as annoying as Kathryn's anger over Landon. Kathryn and T Rav have never been in a relationship -- apparently this is news to her, but it's the truth. Kathryn came across as some raving lunatic at the Founder's Ball.

And Shep: he was a jerk to bring Landon's friend as his date. I don't think Robyn was a plant, I suspect her comment was serendipitous.

I guess Landon will be pregnant on the next season?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Landon's voice is annoying, but it's her voice. It's not contrived. Her sister even sounds the same! It's time to let all of the harping on Landon's voice stop. It's annoying.

It's as annoying as Kathryn's anger over Landon. Kathryn and T Rav have never been in a relationship -- apparently this is news to her, but it's the truth. Kathryn came across as some raving lunatic at the Founder's Ball.

And Shep: he was a jerk to bring Landon's friend as his date. I don't think Robyn was a plant, I suspect her comment was serendipitous.

I guess Landon will be pregnant on the next season?

OMG - HILARIOUS!! We should come up with a bunch of storylines to keep the madness coming.

Kathryn runs off with her drug dealer to Vegas - and win big at the craps table! Landon and TRav get married - but she has problems getting pregnant. Shep and Naomie have a secret affair. Craig takes and passes the bar. Hahaha!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Landon's voice is annoying, but it's her voice. It's not contrived. Her sister even sounds the same! It's time to let all of the harping on Landon's voice stop. It's annoying.

It's as annoying as Kathryn's anger over Landon. Kathryn and T Rav have never been in a relationship -- apparently this is news to her, but it's the truth. Kathryn came across as some raving lunatic at the Founder's Ball.

And Shep: he was a jerk to bring Landon's friend as his date. I don't think Robyn was a plant, I suspect her comment was serendipitous.

I guess Landon will be pregnant on the next season?

OMG - HILARIOUS!! We should come up with a bunch of storylines to keep the madness coming.

Kathryn runs off with her drug dealer to Vegas - and win big at the craps table! Landon and TRav get married - but she has problems getting pregnant. Shep and Naomie have a secret affair. Craig takes and passes the bar. Hahaha!

Then, the newly sorted gang is invited to a dinner at Patricia's house, and Thomas gets even drunker than usual. The next camera shot reveals that him sobbing into Pat's lap the next morning after the two have spent the night together; Pat gives him a no-nonsense command to go get her breakfast martini, and Thomas humbly does so. Pat becomes the new Kathryn of the show, clashing repeatedly with Landon and Cam, and giving Craig some sharp-tongued life advice, to which he responds with a "Yes, ma'am, I'll pass the bar ASAP"--and then he does it. Thomas is completely subdued and changed because he has finally met a woman who can take charge and won't stand for his shenanigans, and the two end up winning custody of Kathryn's kids, but Kathryn doesn't care because she's knocked up by her new drug dealer lover. Pat disowns Whitney because she has hopes of doing better raising her second batch of kids (TRav's progeny) better, and the show ends with Whitney drunkenly sobbing on his knees in the street outside of Pat's house, with TRav watching him from behind closed curtains.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Man am I the only one who was rooting for Kathryn?

She is spot on about Landon, and Landon IS an asshole and has been one to Kathryn so for her to say she hasn't done "anything" is bullshit. She got close with T-Rav AFTER Kathryn told her to fuck off last season. There is no way Landon did that because she and Thomas have a lot in common and wants to hang out more with Thomas. She is dumb, but not that dumb.

Cameron is sanctimonious and self-righteous.

it was obvious Thomas was already hammered. And he was at Kathryn's house too. That whole scene I kept thinking "what 50 year-old climbs out of windows to get his way?" He has a screw loose.

I am so, so tired of Landon. I need her to get gone. Keep Kathryn. At least she is interesting. And remember, she is 23, so of course she is selfish and doesn't know how to be diplomatic. She will look back on this in10 years and be embarrassed. Landon, Cameron, Thomas...they have no excuse.

I'm not rooting for Katherine - she is nuts, but agree - she's 23 and extremely immature. That's what gets me - they're all (except for Craig, Naomi and Shep) picking on a 23 yo girl. I mean, pat is 65 and picking on this poor (insane) girl. I can't believe I posted on this thread!