Gun store opening next door to Franklin Sherman Elementary in Mclean

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sickening at the thought that the politicians are now vowing to make the business move. Given that there are no legal paths to make the business move, the only other incentive is financial. It would pain me greatly if tax payer money was spent to entice the business to move. That's wasteful spending and helps no one.

In fact, what's to prevent another gun shop to negotiate a lease in McLean and wait to be bought out?

IF the gun shop owner decides to move (and I hope he doesn't), he should give up the space to someone who will turn it into a day laborer center. Certainly this would be endorsed by Foust, McAuliffe, Strauss, etc?

Always fun to watch people jump the shark and start babbling incoherently.

Sorry you don't like my idea, Vicky, but your nine bathrooms aren't going to build themselves, you know!

Lol! This is getting fun.

it is. the percentage of paranoid losers is rapidly decreasing.

The share of American households with guns has declined over the past four decades, a national survey shows, with some of the most surprising drops in the South and the Western mountain states, where guns are deeply embedded in the culture.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/us/rate-of-gun-ownership-is-down-survey-shows.html?_r=0

Those statistics undermine your "paranoid loser" hypothesis, you know. Gun ownership is declining because hunting as a sport is declining. Gun owners aren't the paranoid losers that you portray. They are hunters and hobbyists.

Great! We agree! I am sure the reasonable hunters and hobbyists can appreciate that their neighbor (me) don't want them to be buying their guns right next to my kids' school. In fact I am sure the reasonable hunters and lobbyists don't want to be buying their guns next to their own kids' school. So much about this is basic common sense and respect for your community. It seems like the most vocal proponents don't have a kid in the school and are making some sort of political point. Because I refuse to believe my neighbors are so time deaf no matter what their politics are.

you hit on the major problem with the gun violence debate.

There is a few, very vocal, very focused minority that pushes their agenda, of no gun violence control, ever, anywhere.

And the very very large majority are not as motivated to fight back.

+1. Just look at this thread. There is one very pro-gun poster here. His posts are very easy to spot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sickening at the thought that the politicians are now vowing to make the business move. Given that there are no legal paths to make the business move, the only other incentive is financial. It would pain me greatly if tax payer money was spent to entice the business to move. That's wasteful spending and helps no one.

In fact, what's to prevent another gun shop to negotiate a lease in McLean and wait to be bought out?

IF the gun shop owner decides to move (and I hope he doesn't), he should give up the space to someone who will turn it into a day laborer center. Certainly this would be endorsed by Foust, McAuliffe, Strauss, etc?

Always fun to watch people jump the shark and start babbling incoherently.

Sorry you don't like my idea, Vicky, but your nine bathrooms aren't going to build themselves, you know!

Lol! This is getting fun.

it is. the percentage of paranoid losers is rapidly decreasing.

The share of American households with guns has declined over the past four decades, a national survey shows, with some of the most surprising drops in the South and the Western mountain states, where guns are deeply embedded in the culture.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/us/rate-of-gun-ownership-is-down-survey-shows.html?_r=0

Those statistics undermine your "paranoid loser" hypothesis, you know. Gun ownership is declining because hunting as a sport is declining. Gun owners aren't the paranoid losers that you portray. They are hunters and hobbyists.

Great! We agree! I am sure the reasonable hunters and hobbyists can appreciate that their neighbor (me) don't want them to be buying their guns right next to my kids' school. In fact I am sure the reasonable hunters and lobbyists don't want to be buying their guns next to their own kids' school. So much about this is basic common sense and respect for your community. It seems like the most vocal proponents don't have a kid in the school and are making some sort of political point. Because I refuse to believe my neighbors are so time deaf no matter what their politics are.

you hit on the major problem with the gun violence debate.

There is a few, very vocal, very focused minority that pushes their agenda, of no gun violence control, ever, anywhere.

And the very very large majority are not as motivated to fight back.

+1. Just look at this thread. There is one very pro-gun poster here. His posts are very easy to spot.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but only some of the pro-choice comments are mine. If you stick to your issue, you might be more successful here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Sickening at the thought that the politicians are now vowing to make the business move. Given that there are no legal paths to make the business move, the only other incentive is financial. It would pain me greatly if tax payer money was spent to entice the business to move. That's wasteful spending and helps no one.

In fact, what's to prevent another gun shop to negotiate a lease in McLean and wait to be bought out?

IF the gun shop owner decides to move (and I hope he doesn't), he should give up the space to someone who will turn it into a day laborer center. Certainly this would be endorsed by Foust, McAuliffe, Strauss, etc?

Always fun to watch people jump the shark and start babbling incoherently.

Sorry you don't like my idea, Vicky, but your nine bathrooms aren't going to build themselves, you know!

Lol! This is getting fun.

it is. the percentage of paranoid losers is rapidly decreasing.

The share of American households with guns has declined over the past four decades, a national survey shows, with some of the most surprising drops in the South and the Western mountain states, where guns are deeply embedded in the culture.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/us/rate-of-gun-ownership-is-down-survey-shows.html?_r=0

Those statistics undermine your "paranoid loser" hypothesis, you know. Gun ownership is declining because hunting as a sport is declining. Gun owners aren't the paranoid losers that you portray. They are hunters and hobbyists.

Great! We agree! I am sure the reasonable hunters and hobbyists can appreciate that their neighbor (me) don't want them to be buying their guns right next to my kids' school. In fact I am sure the reasonable hunters and lobbyists don't want to be buying their guns next to their own kids' school. So much about this is basic common sense and respect for your community. It seems like the most vocal proponents don't have a kid in the school and are making some sort of political point. Because I refuse to believe my neighbors are so time deaf no matter what their politics are.

you hit on the major problem with the gun violence debate.

There is a few, very vocal, very focused minority that pushes their agenda, of no gun violence control, ever, anywhere.

And the very very large majority are not as motivated to fight back.

+1. Just look at this thread. There is one very pro-gun poster here. His posts are very easy to spot.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but only some of the pro-choice comments are mine. If you stick to your issue, you might be more successful here.

...and I'm not even the poster you're talking to.

[Anonymous]

Pro-choice American citizens have every right to get trained and to have a safeguarded firearm in their homes if they want that. Our police can't always get there instantly when you may need protection.

Each person can decide what to do if faced with such a situation. It can and does happen, right in McLean.

As proven by the anti-choicers, their battle has nothing to do with the school. It just happens to be a convenient cover for their real intent.

When they get honest with their motives, maybe we can have a real discussion about this. Until then, they should keep screaming like hyenas.

No coincidence that female hyenas rule their male counterparts, Ms C. Is that really a good thing?

[Anonymous]

I'm also pro second amendment. Feel free to think there's only one on this board, but you people are stupid. You live in a state that actually takes second amendment rights seriously.

I will be supporting this gun store.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm also pro second amendment. Feel free to think there's only one on this board, but you people are stupid. You live in a state that actually takes second amendment rights seriously.

I will be supporting this gun store.

Nothing like calling someone stupid to win an argument. Also, there's really nothing to accomplish on this thread. In the real world, the community, with the assistance of elected officials, will successfully prevent a gun store from operating next to the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm also pro second amendment. Feel free to think there's only one on this board, but you people are stupid. You live in a state that actually takes second amendment rights seriously.

I will be supporting this gun store.

Nothing like calling someone stupid to win an argument. Also, there's really nothing to accomplish on this thread. In the real world, the community, with the assistance of elected officials, will successfully prevent a gun store from operating next to the school.

Different poster here.
1. The store is already open.
2. Your petition is not about the school.
3. Your petition is about being in McLean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm also pro second amendment. Feel free to think there's only one on this board, but you people are stupid. You live in a state that actually takes second amendment rights seriously.

I will be supporting this gun store.

Nothing like calling someone stupid to win an argument. Also, there's really nothing to accomplish on this thread. In the real world, the community, with the assistance of elected officials, will successfully prevent a gun store from operating next to the school.

Different poster here.
1. The store is already open.
2. Your petition is not about the school.
3. Your petition is about being in McLean.

My petition? I don't have a petition. Have a nice day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Given the public's response in Cherrydale, why wouldn't the store owner engage the community, and attempt to ensure the public welcomed the expanded, more visible storefront in McLean? Extremely poor judgment to re-locate to the property abutting FS elementary. Unless maybe you want to spark controversy. Seriously, even if common sense was not your strong suit, certainly you would gauge whether the McLean community was generally receptive, before you signed the lease.

Virginia and/or Fairfax County laws need to change. Seriously, it appears there are no restrictions to opening a Guns-a-Million next to a school. Not good for ANY community.

Well, lots of free publicity for one. I live in Vienna and I'm not sure I would have known about it except fro the drama. Now I'll be a regular.

And you'll need to focus beyond the VA/FFX laws. Your position requires repeal on a constitutional amendment. Look at the polls, an overwhelming amount of Americans support gun rights. You're a minority around here, you may want to relocate to DC or MD.

An overwhelming number of Americans are for universal background checks. Does not stop nra from pushing their extremist agenda.

VA gun stores are required to perform background checks, including NOVA Firearms, so your comment is a strawman.

[Anonymous]

I have no idea if I'm the poster the PP is talking to, but I have no problem with the gun store being where it is (or trying to be, anyway). I have kids in FCPS, I'm female, I'm a former educator, and I've never voted for a Repbulican candidate in any major election and doubt I will this time around either (Third Party, most likely). I'm probably more liberal on most social issues than the majority of the people who are signing the petition against the gun store. I'm not a fan of the NRA and strongly suspect most gun owners would like to see some of their more outspoken proponents STFU, whether they'd admit it publicly or not.

Here's the deal, though: If you live in McLean and you're going up against this shop, don't be outraged when people start questioning whether you have family members who work in some capacity for the Department of Defense or if you--or someone in your home-- personally owns a firearm. There's an excellent chance you do. Certain posters on the anti-gun petition were claiming the shop would bring "the wrong element" to McLean, which would be ridiculous if it weren't so offensive. The previous shop had been open for years without incident and did plenty of local business, more than likely selling mostly to people right in the community. Anyone living on the "wrong side of the tracks" by McLean standards has plenty of gun stores to choose from and does not need to venture into McLean to purchase a firearm or ammo.

Also, if you are going to court local politicians and school board members and demand their support on this, you have no right to complain when they lobby to raise your property taxes through the roof, shuffle more ESL students into your district and continue to look the other way as your class sizes remain high. I would think long and hard before I became too chummy with any of them, personally. The election is coming up and they are all in it for themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm also pro second amendment. Feel free to think there's only one on this board, but you people are stupid. You live in a state that actually takes second amendment rights seriously.

I will be supporting this gun store.

Nothing like calling someone stupid to win an argument. Also, there's really nothing to accomplish on this thread. In the real world, the community, with the assistance of elected officials, will successfully prevent a gun store from operating next to the school.

Different poster here.
1. The store is already open.
2. Your petition is not about the school.
3. Your petition is about being in McLean.

My petition? I don't have a petition. Have a nice day.

+1. It's best to just work with other community members and elected officials to have the store relocated. If you spend any time looking at what happened in Cherrydale, and what is happening now in McLean, it's clear that the pro-gun advocates troll the Internet forums and look for ways to harass people who don't want guns actively marketed in their communities. There are also some people who don't particularly like guns, but relish the idea that places like Arlington and McLean might end up with unwanted crap like gun stores in their neighborhoods.

We have plenty of allies and we should just keep working with them to get this store out of downtown McLean as soon as possible.

[Anonymous]

Perhaps some anti-choicers would like residents to ask for permission before opening a shop in McLean. Just make a list of everyone who you want to bully out of town. Plaster their home address as you did. That should scare them away.

[Anonymous]

I'm pro-choice.

Want a gun? OK, choose to buy one.

Don't want one? OK, choose not to buy one.

Don't want US citizens to buy one? Choose to move to a country that doesn't have a bill of rights.

[Anonymous]

I don't see in what way the politicians are going to be able to get the gun store to move.

Gun stores and gun owners are used to being on the receiving end of unwarranted criticism. They didn't back down from the Arlington episode, the landlord did there. In this case the landlord, at least for now, is supportive of the store.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm pro-choice.

Want a gun? OK, choose to buy one.

Don't want one? OK, choose not to buy one.

Don't want US citizens to buy one? Choose to move to a country that doesn't have a bill of rights.

Me too! Problem solved.