Madison HS or the IB program at Marshall HS?
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Anonymous
| Just stop it already! What exactly is your problem with IB? I think it is a valuable program that provides a rigorous academic experience for those students who wish to pursue it. How much does the IB actually cost? What is the ROI? Do you have answers to these questions? |
Anonymous
You don't get it, do you? Getting the IB diploma is a big deal. It is not an accident that a lot of colleges, including some of the highly touted on this site, award sophomore standing to students who have competed the IB diploma. Do you think the majority of any high school should be able to do that? Of course not. This is like saying let's eliminate the AP program because the majority of students don't take 8 AP classes. The IB program doesn't limit those who can take IB classes, so even if kids cannot manage the full diploma, they can take advantage of it. Of course, that is if learning is the objective, and not something else. |
Anonymous
IB proponents claims it's this holistic and integrated approach to education until it's pointed out how few students actually pursue an IB diploma, at which point they claim it can be a la carte just like AP. It's a waste of money that primarily benefits overpaid IB coordinators rather than students. If there were one or two IB schools in the county, that would be more than enough to meet the demand for this program. |
Anonymous
Living in Vienna isn't for everyone because it is far outside the beltway. The location of the majority of neighborhoods that feed Marshall far outweigh the negative commuting options of Vienna. Madison is no TJ or Langley. |
Anonymous
I think the most telling indication of the ROI is the fact that the IB diploma rate is so low - around 10% of the seniors at the eight IB schools in the county are diploma candidates - yet the entire school has to be organized around the IB program to qualify as an IBO World School. It becomes a classic case of the tail wagging the dog. |
Anonymous
Vienna is right outside the Beltway. Madison is similar to Langley, except it has more community support. No one knows who goes to Marshall other than kids in Pimmit Hills. It just pulls from a bunch of random neighborhoods, including some in Vienna that wish in their hearts they were also assigned to Madison. |
Anonymous
The center of the Madion's school district is way outside the beltway. Marshall pulls from many distinct neighborhoods with pimmit hills being one of them. Just because you are ignorant to that fact I will spell it out. If you look at this search Marshall pulls from definite neighborhoods like http://www.redfin.com/homes-for-sale#!market=dc®ion_id=135930®ion_type=7&sold_within_days=180&sst=&v=8 Dunn Loring Woods Shreve area Courthouse Tysons area Madrillon Tysons Actually allmost all of 22182 Tysons Proper Dunn Loring's entire zip code And many More Here is vienna and you will notice that it does also have far out broken neighborhoods in Oakton http://www.redfin.com/homes-for-sale#!market=dc®ion_id=54145®ion_type=7&sold_within_days=180&sst=&v=8 |
Anonymous
Madison and Langley are not similar and since when does Madison get more community support than Langley? I think you are now either trolling or are really idiotic to make such claims about Madison vs Langley. What's next, Madison is better than TJ? |
Anonymous
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http://vienna.patch.com/groups/politics-and-elections/p/maple-ave-to-close-for-homecoming-parade-today
No other school in the county gets this level of community support, except perhaps Fairfax, being in Fairfax City. |
Anonymous
You proved my point. Town of Vienna is at Madison's core. Marshall is just a bunch of random neighborhoods in Falls Church, Dunn Loring and Vienna. And WTH is "22182 Tysons Proper"? |
Anonymous
I think you need to go back and look up what "random means". From the map Marshall is zoned for neighborhoods that are right next to each other and cluster around the school. That is not random. Tysons proper is 22182 or now 22101 and 22182, it's a term used for defining the development by the county. This is also the zoning of the city tax area so in a sense it is the future city center. I can see how in the future Tysons will be regarded as a city the same way town of Vienna is currently. http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/news/2013/board-creates-tysons-service-district.htm http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/news/2011/updates/tysons-now-official-mailing-address.htm http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/tysons/development/ |
Anonymous
No, the neighborhoods don't cluster around the school. They just are on different sides of the central Tysons shopping and business area, where not many people live. People who live in Vienna near Reston at Marshall don't live right next to people in Pimmit Hills in Falls Church. When more people live in Tysons, maybe Marshall will gain an identity as the county's "urban" high school, like TC Williams in Alexandria. That's a long way off. For now Madison has much more of an identity as a school associated with a specific area. |
Anonymous
Look at the map and the neighborhoods and areas surround marshall (Cluster around them) If you look to the north east section it's pimmit hills If you look to the south east section is is the shreve area If you look at the south west it is dunn lorring If you look at the near north west it is Tysons (Madrillion, Court house area etc...) If you look at the far north west it is a neighborhood areas that follow the toll road to near wolftrap Anyways yes Madison has a specific town associate with it but saying that Marshall is a bunch of random neighborhoods that are not near or connected to each other is not true. |
Anonymous
| Wow. This thread has taken a sharp left turn at the traffic lights... |
Anonymous
The marshall high school basher is attempting to argue another failed point about madison's neighborhood proximity. I guess you have to make up more points unrelated to education to distract from a losing argument. |