VT is Out

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how anyone can read this thread and not come to the conclusion that VT yield protects. What's more likely? That, or ALL of these high stats kids getting waitlisted wrote crappy essays? SMH.

But they're not ALL getting waitlisted. Some are. Many are accepted. They're not here complaining about it.

VT has a weird admissions pattern, I admit. But if it were really yield protection, you'd see an actual pattern to it, not just unusual misses.

If they were yield protecting, they'd track demonstrated interest, offer Early Decision, look for LOR. They do none of that. You can't yield predict without it. You can, however, make some weird choices.

Posters are trying to figure out the pattern of accepted. So far: thought to essays; thought and commitment to service; major. Some test optional others submitted; most above 4.0 gpa but rigor of classes differs. Was it higher acceptances of OOS students? 74% of enrolled students are from in-state. OOS applicants face stiff competition.

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Anonymous wrote:They thought the short essays were stupid, so I am sure they did not put 100% effort into them.

It’s no surprise that a very smart student would see through the short essay questions for VT. They are performative nonsense.

I felt like every essay my kid wrote, outside their main essay, was unnecessary non-sense. It felt in each case like a hoop jumping exercise to demonstrate you were willing to put for a minimum amount of effort to be considered for admission.

It seems like no college wants to feel like they are a safety. They want to see that a student cares enough to put forth thoughtful responses no matter what they think of the essay questions.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how anyone can read this thread and not come to the conclusion that VT yield protects. What's more likely? That, or ALL of these high stats kids getting waitlisted wrote crappy essays? SMH.

But they're not ALL getting waitlisted. Some are. Many are accepted. They're not here complaining about it.

VT has a weird admissions pattern, I admit. But if it were really yield protection, you'd see an actual pattern to it, not just unusual misses.

If they were yield protecting, they'd track demonstrated interest, offer Early Decision, look for LOR. They do none of that. You can't yield predict without it. You can, however, make some weird choices.

Posters are trying to figure out the pattern of accepted. So far: thought to essays; thought and commitment to service; major. Some test optional others submitted; most above 4.0 gpa but rigor of classes differs. Was it higher acceptances of OOS students? 74% of enrolled students are from in-state. OOS applicants face stiff competition.

In state yield at VT is historically strong, so acceptance rates are lower.
OOS yield at VT is historically low, so acceptance rates are higher.

It's one of the (many) interesting quirks of VT admission that OOS acceptance rates are higher than in state.

Another quirk is that they are very transparent - https://udc.vt.edu/irdata/data/students/admission/index#college- which leads to gamesmanship where applicants will flock to a major that has historically higher acceptance rates, causing the rate to dive, causing claims of YiELd PrOTecTIoN!

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Anonymous wrote:We got in! Engineering! But waiting on top choice W&M.

You would take WM over VT for engineering? Mkay.

I believe it. People choose schools for different reasons. VT was my son's #1 until they cow-towed to Trump and dropped all their diversity programs. Son got in for engineering 3.98 uw/4.6 w, 35 ACT, captain of robotics team, Physics tutor, tons of volunteer hours, Varsity football and lacrosse all 4 years in HS. He is opting for an HBCU. Of course the W&M person is choosing it for other reasons. My point is people pass up what others deem "superior" for all kinds of reasons you may not understand.

Good grief. You realize that ALL colleges have to follow the law, right? Which means no racial discrimination. But sure, continue to blame VT for simply following the law.
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Anonymous wrote:My kid waitlisted!! Totally shocked! IB candidate highest rigor 3.98 GPA 4.46 weighted. 790 SAT Math!! College counselor said he’d definitely get in.

Engineering instate…

Did they think kid will not attend and only applied as a back up school?

"Yield Protection
Virginia Tech does not participate in yield protection.
https://www.vt.edu/admiss...orner.html"

Lying liars!! 100% lies.

One look at TJ scattergram would put to rest this lie.

The top TJ students who all get into T20, get accepted to UVA and are rejected by V Tech.

VT is not doing anything wrong, as none of these kids have any intention of going to V Tech. That is fair. What is wrong is the lying to the face by VT that they do not yield protect.

We applied in 2025 cycle and after looking at the scattergram did not apply to VT. Got in to a HYP and UVA and he would nearly certainly have been rejected by VT.

^^ Annnnnnd here s/he is. The TJ parent who comes back year after year to post this rant. So predictable.

That TJ parent is a complete liar. I am a TJ parent and can see the scattergram. There are some red X's in the sea of green, but we all know that VT cares deeply about their short essays and will reject people who don't take the time to polish their answers (despite being very high stats).

Yep. That parent is so recognizable. Every.single.year. they show up and pretend their kid is currently applying when they actually applied several years ago and were rejected. I wonder about their mental health.

What triggered you? Calm down! Are you always this much of a drama queen?

Are you back again with your usual song and dance?

It is just college admissions. Dont be so invested as if this is your baby. Take it easy. No one is putting VT down.

Anyone calling what is by far one of the most transparent schools out there, “Lying liars” has an obvious screw loose. And we have other TJ parents here to verify that particular poster is the actual liar.

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Anonymous wrote:In OOS, Arch, Art, Design School, 4.35 GPA from public school, submitted 1390 SAT, did spend time and effort on essays

My DC applied to this school and was waitlisted. 4.85 WGPA, higher SAT, spent a lot of time on essays. Also OOS. Who knows?

Maybe the essays just weren't good enough?

Which is a stupid reason to base an admissions decision on. 4 short essays as VT does shouldnt be the end all be all factor after 3+ years of hard work in high school.

Also let’s not forget, VT has stated they have a huge % first gen college student goal. That works against many kids in the NOVA area whose parents are college grads.

Not anymore. Sorry, you can’t use that excuse. Are you this upset when your kid isn’t accepted to other schools?

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Anonymous wrote:I have a junior with VT on the list, OOS. Can anyone comment on the extent to which visiting campus might or might not play a role, maybe in writing the essays? I see that, technically, VT doesn't consider interest, but I am skeptical of whether visits find their way into an algorithm, for example, or of course the essays.

Just wondering how hard to push to get there for a visit. We may have to visit in summer, obviously not ideal (and this is not my first rodeo). Kid has a major EC competition happening over spring break and there are no other days off due to said EC. Anyone know just how empty VT is in summer?

We always made a point to visit the schools DC was most interested in, regardless of whether the school factors in DI.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how anyone can read this thread and not come to the conclusion that VT yield protects. What's more likely? That, or ALL of these high stats kids getting waitlisted wrote crappy essays? SMH.

Based on my kid's FCPS HS, some friends' FCPS HSs, and the FCPS HS at which I teach, the Naviance scatterplots show that most high stats kids are getting accepted to VT. A few naysayers on DCUM keep posting otherwise to stir the pot.

Exactly. And who knows how many of these posters are simply trolling, as they do every year. I wouldn’t take anyone posting stats on this forum as gospel. A lot of people are still disgruntled from years past and come year each year to rehash it. The Naviance at our school also shows plenty of high stats kids getting in.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how anyone can read this thread and not come to the conclusion that VT yield protects. What's more likely? That, or ALL of these high stats kids getting waitlisted wrote crappy essays? SMH.

Based on my kid's FCPS HS, some friends' FCPS HSs, and the FCPS HS at which I teach, the Naviance scatterplots show that most high stats kids are getting accepted to VT. A few naysayers on DCUM keep posting otherwise to stir the pot.

Same. And the higher stats ones who don't get in don't have strong community service records (or considered VT such a safety that they acknowledge they didn't work on the essays much).

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It’s almost always the people who were certain their kids would get in who are shocked and angry when they don’t. VT is not a safety school, but these parents never seem to get the message. I truly wish Vat would bring back ED for those who would choose it in a heartbeat.

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Anonymous wrote:They thought the short essays were stupid, so I am sure they did not put 100% effort into them.

It’s no surprise that a very smart student would see through the short essay questions for VT. They are performative nonsense.

Then don’t apply! And go sulk elsewhere. Plenty of schools require supplemental essays.

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Lots of sour grapes and entitlement here.

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Anonymous wrote:They thought the short essays were stupid, so I am sure they did not put 100% effort into them.

It’s no surprise that a very smart student would see through the short essay questions for VT. They are performative nonsense.

Can you explain to the rest of us "stupid" who didn't see through the performative nonsense what exactly what you/your kid saw?

PP is so mad her kid didn’t get in that now she’s claiming they were simply “too smart.” Now I’ve heard it all!

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Anonymous wrote:They thought the short essays were stupid, so I am sure they did not put 100% effort into them.

It’s no surprise that a very smart student would see through the short essay questions for VT. They are performative nonsense.

I felt like every essay my kid wrote, outside their main essay, was unnecessary non-sense. It felt in each case like a hoop jumping exercise to demonstrate you were willing to put for a minimum amount of effort to be considered for admission.

DP. I prefer a school that requires essays rather than just a throwaway application that anyone and everyone will submit. Now THAT’S a lazy tactic designed to get more applicants.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of sour grapes and entitlement here.

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Every single year. So predictable. “DC *deserved* to get in!!” Followed by, “well, he wouldn’t have gone anyway.” Sure, Jan.

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Anonymous wrote:They thought the short essays were stupid, so I am sure they did not put 100% effort into them.

It’s no surprise that a very smart student would see through the short essay questions for VT. They are performative nonsense.

I felt like every essay my kid wrote, outside their main essay, was unnecessary non-sense. It felt in each case like a hoop jumping exercise to demonstrate you were willing to put for a minimum amount of effort to be considered for admission.

I disagree. The questions aligned with their values which check whether the students would be a good fit at the school.

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DS with lower stats got in and he has hundreds of volunteer hours and wrote a compelling response to one of their questions about other service he did.