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$100k fee for h1-b visas coming
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Anonymous
In many cases the answer is yes. I think we should go so far as to develop a "capital to-go box" to encourage capitalism leave with them. 90% of these startups run by immigrants are literal "call the fire marshal" dumpster fires. They are totally abusive. |
Anonymous
Let me put it another way. Immigrants are of no value to me. Wages, products they produce, research, spicy curry, yoga, you name it. Bottom line, they take up space consume public resources like roads and schools. They can't even carry a conversation on the weather. No, I don't like what 90% of corporations use immigrants for. Google, Amazon etc. We were fine without it. A great example is AI. There is no reason we needed to develop AI capabilities this fast. Our society is not ready for it. A) If we had waited 5 or ten years, the computation would be better, it would take nearly so much energy. B) It would likely be of higher quality. C) People would have been introduced to it more gradually. Here it is we are in a total AI bubble. It's kind of like the Spanish Empire when they invaded the New World and found(stole) all of that gold. They ended up going bankrupt numerous times. Same idea. Economically it just doesn't make sense to develop something like AI that quickly. Ah, but we have immigrants to do it for us, so let's do it. |
Anonymous
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So many people are misrepresenting what has happened.
Making H1Bs more expensive does not prevent their use for hiring immigrants with rare skills. It only prevents them from being used to prevent the employment of citizens for for mundane jobs. |
Anonymous
Ok. So long as you recognize that companies like Google, Amazon etc is what pays for the standard of living of all Americans. You are right about the AI being a bubble but the technology is being built right now. The race is on to monetize it. If we aren’t in the game, in 10 years we will be exporting from others. And the innovation center will have shifted from the United States. This will affect the wealth of your children and mine, regardless of what they choose to do. |
Anonymous
Google and Amazon(not to mention Microsoft has been around for well before this.) were both established well before H-1B thank you very much. Here, here is some AI slop you want more of this. Do you think the dot.com bubble is related to the H-1B at all. 1️⃣ When were Google and Amazon founded? Amazon was founded in 1994 (incorporated July 1994, website launched 1995). Google was incorporated in 1998. So by 2001, both companies were already well established, not being “founded” then. 2️⃣ H-1B visa caps in the early 2000s The H-1B visa program had a statutory cap that changed several times. The numbers below are for the regular cap (not including exemptions for universities, nonprofits, etc.): Fiscal Year Regular Cap Actual Petitions Approved FY 1999 115,000 ~133,000 issued total* FY 2000 115,000 ~136,000 issued total* FY 2001 195,000 ~163,600 issued total* FY 2002 195,000 ~161,100 issued total* FY 2003 195,000 ~173,900 issued total* *Total includes cap-exempt cases. The cap jumped from 65,000 (the old baseline) to 115,000 (FY1999-2000) and then to 195,000 (FY2001-2003) due to the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act (AC21). After FY2004 it reverted back to 65,000 (plus the 20,000 U.S. master’s cap added later). 3️⃣ Takeaway In 2001, the H-1B cap was at its historic high — 195,000 visas. Roughly 160k–170k were actually issued that year. This was during the dot-com boom when companies like Amazon and Google were hiring heavily. Would you like me to show how that 195,000 cap compares to today’s cap (65,000 + 20,000 master’s)? |
Anonymous
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Just to emphasize.
Neither Amazon nor Google relied on immigrant labor for founding: Timing of the founding Amazon was founded in 1994. The H-1B cap at that time was 65,000 per year, and the program was smaller and less widely used than today. Amazon was just a startup in Seattle; its early team was mostly American. Google was founded in 1998, when the H-1B cap had risen to 115,000. By then, the tech industry had started relying more heavily on skilled foreign workers, but Google was still a very small Stanford-spinoff startup initially. So during the actual “founding” phase, neither company had huge numbers of H-1B hires. Immigrant labor was more critical for scaling than for initial founding. |
Anonymous
It’s not like you live in the U.S. for decades to get a green card. I am sure they still have the perspective. Or they can be hired remotely or locally if you need local experts on the ground. In any case, nothing against 5-10 hibs at a company. But there’s are whole cities where I live populated by current and former hibs from one part of the world |
Anonymous
I honestly don’t care if they are abstractly racist but they do take up spaces in schools, jobs, etc. Add nepotism to the mix which is overlooked because omg I’ll be called a racist if I point it out and bam we have a perfect storm. Honestly the president should have just closed the program for this one country. Sadly he isn’t doing it to preserve American values but rather to shake the companies down |
Anonymous
There needs to be a carefully thought out immigration policy which includes review of the work ethic, level of trust and nepotism in cultures potentially immigrating |
Anonymous
how long do you think it takes to get a green card once you come here on a visa. HINT: it takes way more than 5 years, especially if you are from India. Again, stop talking nonsense. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. Yes, they can be hired remotely, which is called offshoring, which is what I stated was going to happen. |
Anonymous
The entire immigration policy in this country needs to be completely reworked from top to bottom. The INA needs to be trashed. It's incomprehensible, inconsistent, ridiculously byzantine, unnecessarily punitive, and does nothing to support American businesses who want and need immigrant labor. The immigration policy must keep out undesirable immigrants, like gang members and other criminals, but allow in all those immigrants who want to work here and are needed by various industries. This ridiculous fee for H1B visas will backfire because it's not part of an overall plan to supply foreign labor in response to needs by US companies, who will now be forced to hire overseas and avoid the fee. More American jobs will be lost as a result and more American companies will be forced to close because they don't have enough workers. |
Anonymous
Not at $100,000. This is for the duration of the H1B including renewal. $17k a year will reduce some demand, but generally still allow companies to lower prices for routine engineering jobs. |
Anonymous
Maybe Trump will find a way to tariff offshore IT work. |
Anonymous
? tariffs are for imports, not exports. But, how un-capitalist of you. Why doesn't he tax his own businesses that hire visa workers? |
Anonymous
I got that. Use H1B for unusual talent. That should be the intent. How did we get to the point where the system is getting scammed like it is while American employees are getting thrown out into the streets of their own country by immigrant labor? Sure, let's give these high paying jobs to immigrants at the expense of highly trained, highly competent American men and women. Where was the State Department when the system was getting scammed by South Asians and their cronies? Where was Congress when their constituents were getting replaced by these immigrants? Out to lunch is where they've been. |