$100k fee for h1-b visas coming

[Anonymous]

As long as typical Hib people are kept out of communities where they already formed their own communities, where they bring in more people, where they instill the rat race in our high schools, take hold of managerial positions and hire more of the same, I am good with it!

I live in an area with very high concentration of current and former h one b people (70% of which are from the same country). As long as they dissipate at least somewhat, from schools, jobs and communities, I am good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it can be underestimated how much this is going to devastate the south Asian communities in places like Northern Virginia, New Jersey, and the Bay Area.

There are certainly a lot of them yes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it can be underestimated how much this is going to devastate the south Asian communities in places like Northern Virginia, New Jersey, and the Bay Area.

H1B has been a pathway to citizenship using loopholes for over 30 years--many of these areas you mention have towns that are over 80% Indian as a result, these citizens are not going anywhere.

The town i grew up in became majority Indian in a matter of 10 to 15 years since the late 90s.

While I share your overall sentiment I don’t think there any loopholes. It’s a pretty straightforward path. Just way too many people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work for a small company focused on international policy issues. We have been so lucky with some talented students/recent grads working on school based visas and have hired them on through the H1B lottery. It's important for us to have different (non-American) points of view in our work, and these people are so freaking smart. It's going to be a blow to us.

Can’t they work in country offices or maybe you can hire naturalized citizens or GC holders

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe cs grads from the US can now get a job. You wouldn't believe how many applications I get from Indian for my job posting. Literally 490 h1b to 10 Americans

So hopefully you hire the ones from the U.S.?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work in the tech industry, for a company that has laid off 1000+ American workers and hired 1000+ H-1B workers over the past 2 years. Those 1000+ American workers were first required to train their H-1B replacements.

My direct supervisor is on an H-1B. I have a hard time believing that my company could not find an American engineering manager and were forced to look outside the country.

The H-1B program is irrevocably broken, so drastic measures must be taken.

The most interesting part is that it might not even be company policy, but rather driven by management who are compatriots of the hibs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not good that we are importing all of these people whose values aren’t aligned with ours. It really does change the fabric of our country. People who perpetuate their caste system and are hostile towards gays and lesbians, and don’t even like dogs, don’t participate in or understand our culture, don’t really make the best neighbors.

And are nepotistic

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Anonymous wrote:The WSj editorial board weighs on tge H1B debate:

“If companies aren’t allowed to hire foreign workers in the U.S. because they are too expensive, they’ll go abroad. There will be fewer startups and less innovation. This will not help the U.S. in the AI race with China.”

And this.

“Federal law doesn’t give the President carte blanche authority to set visa fees, so he’s invoking a provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act that lets a President restrict entry of foreigners to protect national security.

He claims, again without evidence, that the H-1B program is a national-security threat.
As with his willy-nilly tariffs, he’s abusing his national-security powers. His order may violate the Supreme Court’s major questions doctrine, which says the President needs clear authorization from Congress for economically significant actions.”

Amazing, that's not true though the program doesn't lower wages. Sigh, how do you know a Democrat is lying? Their lips are moving.

You clearly don't work in big tech.

They will just offshore the jobs.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/silicon-valley-hiring-turmoil-after-new-h-1b-visa-fees-move-spurs-offshoring-2025-09-23/

"I have had several conversations with corporate clients ... where they have said this new fee is simply unworkable in the U.S., and it's time for us to start looking for other countries where we can have highly skilled talent," said Chris Thomas, an immigration attorney at Colorado-based law firm Holland & Hart.

Much like Trump's promise to bring back the manufacturing jobs, this latest chaotic EO won't create thousands of high paying jobs for your kids.

And I say this as someone whose child is a CS/math major graduating in 2 years. But, I've worked in the tech sector long enough to know that companies aren't going to all of a sudden want to hire expensive American workers if they can get a worker for 30% of the cost, even if it means only 30% productivity. Corporate heads want to cut costs; they don't care about workers having to deal with crap work product.

People are super naive and gullible.

Offshoring should be made regulatorily difficult and highly punitive. Also, offshoring is better than importing non-Americans to work in jobs and live in the very communities that an equal number of qualified entry-level American grads won't have the opportunity to do. In fact it'll just drive up the living costs for them. It's un-American and actually is another form of DEI, especially when exacerbated with the existence of the family visa turnstile. Yes, the current administration is trying to EO the government into an 80s style single party system like the LDP, KMT, PRI, and CCP. However, this is one issue that, if implemented properly, will benefit millennials and gen z.

I think offshoring isn't as a big of a deal as they say in terms of high skilled immigration. I mean sure they are bigots, that aren't ever going to hire American, and that is a problem, but given that they are bigots that won't ever hire American, offshoring doesn't matter. I prefer the bigots that won't ever higher Americans leave.

Furthermore, there are plenty of reasons why they don't really want to offshore. Foreigners not in our immigration system can easily be poached. Foreigners that aren't trying to get a green card aren't willing to pay for premium education in the us just to go back home, work for les to "purchase a green card". The world is not a tech paradise they don't have the infrastructure. They have to navigate local regulations and laws. It's not nearly so motivating to work for mediocre wages and still live in a crowded dirty old-world town, where you don't even get to drive a car, and have to be subjected to the old world caste systems. They don't have Americans to train them.

You obviously don't work in tech, and your view is nothing like reality.

Companies would rather offshore and save money than hire Americans for 3x the amount. Doesn't matter if the foreign worker isn't as productive or effective. Corporations only care about the bottom line.

I work mostly with people offshore. It's only grown in the past 15 years I've been in tech. Even back office jobs have been offshored.

This (badly executed) EO will spur more offshoring, and we will lose the tax revenue. It's not a win like you think it is. Did the manufacturing jobs Trump promised come back? No. And neither will tech jobs that have been offshored.

Forcing American companies to hire only Americans is not capitalism. It's more like socialism, something I believe MAGA always decries.

Some of you are super naive and ignorant.

They say it over and over, H-1B doesn't save companies any money. They pay the same wages as Americans. I don't know why you keep perpetuating this myth that Companies are going to rush off and save money because they don't have h-1bs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work for a small company focused on international policy issues. We have been so lucky with some talented students/recent grads working on school based visas and have hired them on through the H1B lottery. It's important for us to have different (non-American) points of view in our work, and these people are so freaking smart. It's going to be a blow to us.

Can’t they work in country offices or maybe you can hire naturalized citizens or GC holders

They still have different perspectives. A green card holder who's lived here for many years won't have the same perspective as someone who has been living in that other country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The WSj editorial board weighs on tge H1B debate:

“If companies aren’t allowed to hire foreign workers in the U.S. because they are too expensive, they’ll go abroad. There will be fewer startups and less innovation. This will not help the U.S. in the AI race with China.”

And this.

“Federal law doesn’t give the President carte blanche authority to set visa fees, so he’s invoking a provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act that lets a President restrict entry of foreigners to protect national security.

He claims, again without evidence, that the H-1B program is a national-security threat.
As with his willy-nilly tariffs, he’s abusing his national-security powers. His order may violate the Supreme Court’s major questions doctrine, which says the President needs clear authorization from Congress for economically significant actions.”

Amazing, that's not true though the program doesn't lower wages. Sigh, how do you know a Democrat is lying? Their lips are moving.

You clearly don't work in big tech.

They will just offshore the jobs.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/silicon-valley-hiring-turmoil-after-new-h-1b-visa-fees-move-spurs-offshoring-2025-09-23/

"I have had several conversations with corporate clients ... where they have said this new fee is simply unworkable in the U.S., and it's time for us to start looking for other countries where we can have highly skilled talent," said Chris Thomas, an immigration attorney at Colorado-based law firm Holland & Hart.

Much like Trump's promise to bring back the manufacturing jobs, this latest chaotic EO won't create thousands of high paying jobs for your kids.

And I say this as someone whose child is a CS/math major graduating in 2 years. But, I've worked in the tech sector long enough to know that companies aren't going to all of a sudden want to hire expensive American workers if they can get a worker for 30% of the cost, even if it means only 30% productivity. Corporate heads want to cut costs; they don't care about workers having to deal with crap work product.

People are super naive and gullible.

Offshoring should be made regulatorily difficult and highly punitive. Also, offshoring is better than importing non-Americans to work in jobs and live in the very communities that an equal number of qualified entry-level American grads won't have the opportunity to do. In fact it'll just drive up the living costs for them. It's un-American and actually is another form of DEI, especially when exacerbated with the existence of the family visa turnstile. Yes, the current administration is trying to EO the government into an 80s style single party system like the LDP, KMT, PRI, and CCP. However, this is one issue that, if implemented properly, will benefit millennials and gen z.

I think offshoring isn't as a big of a deal as they say in terms of high skilled immigration. I mean sure they are bigots, that aren't ever going to hire American, and that is a problem, but given that they are bigots that won't ever hire American, offshoring doesn't matter. I prefer the bigots that won't ever higher Americans leave.

Furthermore, there are plenty of reasons why they don't really want to offshore. Foreigners not in our immigration system can easily be poached. Foreigners that aren't trying to get a green card aren't willing to pay for premium education in the us just to go back home, work for les to "purchase a green card". The world is not a tech paradise they don't have the infrastructure. They have to navigate local regulations and laws. It's not nearly so motivating to work for mediocre wages and still live in a crowded dirty old-world town, where you don't even get to drive a car, and have to be subjected to the old world caste systems. They don't have Americans to train them.

You obviously don't work in tech, and your view is nothing like reality.

Companies would rather offshore and save money than hire Americans for 3x the amount. Doesn't matter if the foreign worker isn't as productive or effective. Corporations only care about the bottom line.

I work mostly with people offshore. It's only grown in the past 15 years I've been in tech. Even back office jobs have been offshored.

This (badly executed) EO will spur more offshoring, and we will lose the tax revenue. It's not a win like you think it is. Did the manufacturing jobs Trump promised come back? No. And neither will tech jobs that have been offshored.

Forcing American companies to hire only Americans is not capitalism. It's more like socialism, something I believe MAGA always decries.

Some of you are super naive and ignorant.

They say it over and over, H-1B doesn't save companies any money. They pay the same wages as Americans. I don't know why you keep perpetuating this myth that Companies are going to rush off and save money because they don't have h-1bs.

Because I've been in the industry for over 15 years and have seen more and more offshoring through the years. It will just continue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As long as typical Hib people are kept out of communities where they already formed their own communities, where they bring in more people, where they instill the rat race in our high schools, take hold of managerial positions and hire more of the same, I am good with it!

I live in an area with very high concentration of current and former h one b people (70% of which are from the same country). As long as they dissipate at least somewhat, from schools, jobs and communities, I am good.

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Unfortunately this has happened. I was also shocked at how many H-1B workers from certain countries were extremely racist themselves, even to other immigrants from their home country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As long as typical Hib people are kept out of communities where they already formed their own communities, where they bring in more people, where they instill the rat race in our high schools, take hold of managerial positions and hire more of the same, I am good with it!

I live in an area with very high concentration of current and former h one b people (70% of which are from the same country). As long as they dissipate at least somewhat, from schools, jobs and communities, I am good.

+1
Unfortunately this has happened. I was also shocked at how many H-1B workers from certain countries were extremely racist themselves, even to other immigrants from their home country.

Travel the world and you will discover that this is normal for everyone who isn't European or if European descent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As long as typical Hib people are kept out of communities where they already formed their own communities, where they bring in more people, where they instill the rat race in our high schools, take hold of managerial positions and hire more of the same, I am good with it!

I live in an area with very high concentration of current and former h one b people (70% of which are from the same country). As long as they dissipate at least somewhat, from schools, jobs and communities, I am good.

+1
Unfortunately this has happened. I was also shocked at how many H-1B workers from certain countries were extremely racist themselves, even to other immigrants from their home country.

Travel the world and you will discover that this is normal for everyone who isn't European or if European descent.

Huh? Europeans are the most racist people in the world. Look at past and recent history. They just have more money (because of centuries of rape and pillage) to cover it up. Every time there's a slight economic downturn in France, Britain, Germany, etc., the real nature of Europeans comes out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:As long as typical Hib people are kept out of communities where they already formed their own communities, where they bring in more people, where they instill the rat race in our high schools, take hold of managerial positions and hire more of the same, I am good with it!

I live in an area with very high concentration of current and former h one b people (70% of which are from the same country). As long as they dissipate at least somewhat, from schools, jobs and communities, I am good.

+1
Unfortunately this has happened. I was also shocked at how many H-1B workers from certain countries were extremely racist themselves, even to other immigrants from their home country.

Travel the world and you will discover that this is normal for everyone who isn't European or if European descent.

Huh? Europeans are the most racist people in the world. Look at past and recent history. They just have more money (because of centuries of rape and pillage) to cover it up. Every time there's a slight economic downturn in France, Britain, Germany, etc., the real nature of Europeans comes out.

I understood the PP to mean that many in the US tend to think it isn't possible for non-Whites (European descent) to be racist.

[Anonymous]

We have always “stolen” the best and brightest from other countries and made them into Americans. It is in our DNA and has enormous value to the United States. 55% of America’s billion dollar startups have at least one immigrant founder. You want that creativity and drive being cultivated in China?

https://www.fosterglobal.com/blog/55-of-americas-billion-dollar-startups-have-an-immigrant-founder/