Accreditors are considering dropping diversity requirements

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Anonymous wrote:Choosing someone for their race constitutes discriminating against someone else for their race in college applications. And of course that should be illegal.

How would people like it if some college said, “We require at least 95% white people! Oh we aren’t discriminating against black people really! We just want at least 95% white people.” Everyone would be outraged.

We should also avoid scenario 2. What’s clear amongst republicans is they want an outright reduction and make it near impossible for poor students and students of color to enter higher ed, at least the highest rungs of higher ed. They continue to sue schools who don’t have the type of diversity they want and continue to perpetuate the idea that black students are inherently worse applicants.

That is sheer BS. The only thing at issue is RACE-based discrimination (or favoritism). First-gen / low-income students are given aid based on their financial status, not race.

Sorry, but the color of your skin should not dictate the amount of aid or preference you get.

Thank you for not addressing my comment. There are currently many issues related to financial aid hurting the poor right now as we speak, particularly for professional school. But yeah, advocate for the poor while doing nothing but sitting on your ass and complaining about black people.

Wow, the chip on your shoulder must be visible from space - your victim complex certainly is.

I said nothing at all about black people - OTC, it’s YOU who is absolutely fixated on the color of people’s skin. You know what that’s called? Racism.

That is sheer BS. The only thing at issue is RACE-based discrimination (or favoritism).

Favoritism of who? Who's receiving all this favoritism? What group could you possibly be talking about? Myanmar-Americans? White-Descendants-of-Italians? The Iroquois? You totally didn't skirt around saying what you really meant by just saying race, right

You are utterly unhinged. I truly have no idea what you’re ranting about, and it’s pretty clear you don’t either.

Classic dcum. Suddenly nothing makes sense when it’s most convenient

No, you are flat-out making no sense. Ranting about “Myanmar-Americans,” etc?

Tell us: why do you think anyone should get race-based preferences? We’ll wait.

What race were you talking about getting preferences? This is why I don’t believe you’re confused. You know exactly what you said and now want to act like I’ve said something completely out of left field.

I asked you a question first. Why do you think ANYONE should get race-based preferences - black, white, Latino, Asian, whatever? But of course, you won't answer that and instead, try and obfuscate. It's ok, we all see you.

Because no students (including white students) want to study in an environment that is overwhelmingly white or monoracial. Students (the consumers of the college product) WANT more racial/ethnic diversity. A college that can attract diverse student body is able to attract more students to matriculate there. They are in the sales business.

What a totally ridiculous answer. You’re implying that diverse students couldn’t possibly be accepted on their own merit and instead have to be chosen due to their race. This is exactly why DEI needs to be a thing of the past.
DP

Nobody believes that blacks are incapable of excelling more than the woke left.

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The left has always, always underestimated black people (and Hispanic, etc.) - to their detriment. It's astounding to me that more minorities don't speak up and insist on being judged on their merits and not on the color of their skin. How insulting.

The funny thing is that the "woke left" isn't comprised of blacks or hispanics ( even though one person, AOC, is prominent). It's the white Bernie bros living in uber blue gentrified neighborhoods. They don’t like blacks either. Politically, to them, blacks are the "establishment." The irony.

Regardless of political ideology, blacks are either the scapegoats or punching bags.

Sad.

A scapegoat is the same thing as a punching bag and black people are neither. Try empowering minorities instead of constantly painting them as victims.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know how much I really care either way but personally, I’d rather DEI requirements not exist. Not because diversity in general isn’t a good thing but because I’m Latina. The idea or mere appearance that I may have been selected, hired, picked because of some sort of diversity initiative really ticks me off.

They don't think you can get in without the preference.

They've been striving for racial parity for so long without being able to achieve it that they no longer believe you are capable of it.

Probably can’t if people were being completely honest. Most of the dei candidates needed the substantial boost to get in. It’s still just not politically popular right now to admit that blacks and Hispanics are not the brightest, and continue to embarrass themselves generation over generation.

There it is again. Unbelievable. The true MAGA colors. And yet you still deny being racist?

It’s not racist to admit that black people aren’t the best applicants by pure merit. That’s why they need DEI. There’s different ways of beating around the bush and (failing to) admit it, but at some point people will realize we need to start working on this disparity in middle school, not colleges and universities.

It’s one thing to argue for race blind admissions. It’s quite another to declare that “blacks and Hispanics are not the brightest and continue to embarrass themselves.” That’s just flat out racism. I’m willing to bet you wouldn’t like it so much if some one started spewing negative generalizations about Asians. In your mind you’ve already decided one race is superior, which you’ve already stated in previous deleted posts, and you wouldn’t accept any metric which didn’t put your own group on top. That’s racist. So cowardly for you not to own it.

Why don't you just report that poster instead of engaging over and over with them?
DP

Because it’s probably a good thing for their blatant racism to be on display. It’s a fantastic illustration of hypocrisy and ugliness of this movement.

Oh, spare us your victim complex. That person doesn't speak for the rest of us, yet you're delighted to label anyone who wants merit-based admissions in with them. No doubt that poster is trolling to get a reaction and to derail the thread. Mission accomplished, hope you're happy.

People like you weren't advocating for "merit based " admissions when white guys were getting all of the slots. Hypocrisy.

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Anonymous wrote:Choosing someone for their race constitutes discriminating against someone else for their race in college applications. And of course that should be illegal.

How would people like it if some college said, “We require at least 95% white people! Oh we aren’t discriminating against black people really! We just want at least 95% white people.” Everyone would be outraged.

We should also avoid scenario 2. What’s clear amongst republicans is they want an outright reduction and make it near impossible for poor students and students of color to enter higher ed, at least the highest rungs of higher ed. They continue to sue schools who don’t have the type of diversity they want and continue to perpetuate the idea that black students are inherently worse applicants.

That is sheer BS. The only thing at issue is RACE-based discrimination (or favoritism). First-gen / low-income students are given aid based on their financial status, not race.

Sorry, but the color of your skin should not dictate the amount of aid or preference you get.

Thank you for not addressing my comment. There are currently many issues related to financial aid hurting the poor right now as we speak, particularly for professional school. But yeah, advocate for the poor while doing nothing but sitting on your ass and complaining about black people.

Wow, the chip on your shoulder must be visible from space - your victim complex certainly is.

I said nothing at all about black people - OTC, it’s YOU who is absolutely fixated on the color of people’s skin. You know what that’s called? Racism.

That is sheer BS. The only thing at issue is RACE-based discrimination (or favoritism).

Favoritism of who? Who's receiving all this favoritism? What group could you possibly be talking about? Myanmar-Americans? White-Descendants-of-Italians? The Iroquois? You totally didn't skirt around saying what you really meant by just saying race, right

You are utterly unhinged. I truly have no idea what you’re ranting about, and it’s pretty clear you don’t either.

Classic dcum. Suddenly nothing makes sense when it’s most convenient

No, you are flat-out making no sense. Ranting about “Myanmar-Americans,” etc?

Tell us: why do you think anyone should get race-based preferences? We’ll wait.

What race were you talking about getting preferences? This is why I don’t believe you’re confused. You know exactly what you said and now want to act like I’ve said something completely out of left field.

I asked you a question first. Why do you think ANYONE should get race-based preferences - black, white, Latino, Asian, whatever? But of course, you won't answer that and instead, try and obfuscate. It's ok, we all see you.

Because no students (including white students) want to study in an environment that is overwhelmingly white or monoracial. Students (the consumers of the college product) WANT more racial/ethnic diversity. A college that can attract diverse student body is able to attract more students to matriculate there. They are in the sales business.

What a totally ridiculous answer. You’re implying that diverse students couldn’t possibly be accepted on their own merit and instead have to be chosen due to their race. This is exactly why DEI needs to be a thing of the past.
DP

Nobody believes that blacks are incapable of excelling more than the woke left.

+100
The left has always, always underestimated black people (and Hispanic, etc.) - to their detriment. It's astounding to me that more minorities don't speak up and insist on being judged on their merits and not on the color of their skin. How insulting.

The funny thing is that the "woke left" isn't comprised of blacks or hispanics ( even though one person, AOC, is prominent). It's the white Bernie bros living in uber blue gentrified neighborhoods. They don’t like blacks either. Politically, to them, blacks are the "establishment." The irony.

Regardless of political ideology, blacks are either the scapegoats or punching bags.

Sad.

A scapegoat is the same thing as a punching bag and black people are neither. Try empowering minorities instead of constantly painting them as victims.

Tell that to FOX News and MAGA.

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Anonymous wrote:Choosing someone for their race constitutes discriminating against someone else for their race in college applications. And of course that should be illegal.

How would people like it if some college said, “We require at least 95% white people! Oh we aren’t discriminating against black people really! We just want at least 95% white people.” Everyone would be outraged.

We should also avoid scenario 2. What’s clear amongst republicans is they want an outright reduction and make it near impossible for poor students and students of color to enter higher ed, at least the highest rungs of higher ed. They continue to sue schools who don’t have the type of diversity they want and continue to perpetuate the idea that black students are inherently worse applicants.

That is sheer BS. The only thing at issue is RACE-based discrimination (or favoritism). First-gen / low-income students are given aid based on their financial status, not race.

Sorry, but the color of your skin should not dictate the amount of aid or preference you get.

Thank you for not addressing my comment. There are currently many issues related to financial aid hurting the poor right now as we speak, particularly for professional school. But yeah, advocate for the poor while doing nothing but sitting on your ass and complaining about black people.

Wow, the chip on your shoulder must be visible from space - your victim complex certainly is.

I said nothing at all about black people - OTC, it’s YOU who is absolutely fixated on the color of people’s skin. You know what that’s called? Racism.

That is sheer BS. The only thing at issue is RACE-based discrimination (or favoritism).

Favoritism of who? Who's receiving all this favoritism? What group could you possibly be talking about? Myanmar-Americans? White-Descendants-of-Italians? The Iroquois? You totally didn't skirt around saying what you really meant by just saying race, right

You are utterly unhinged. I truly have no idea what you’re ranting about, and it’s pretty clear you don’t either.

Classic dcum. Suddenly nothing makes sense when it’s most convenient

No, you are flat-out making no sense. Ranting about “Myanmar-Americans,” etc?

Tell us: why do you think anyone should get race-based preferences? We’ll wait.

What race were you talking about getting preferences? This is why I don’t believe you’re confused. You know exactly what you said and now want to act like I’ve said something completely out of left field.

I asked you a question first. Why do you think ANYONE should get race-based preferences - black, white, Latino, Asian, whatever? But of course, you won't answer that and instead, try and obfuscate. It's ok, we all see you.

Because no students (including white students) want to study in an environment that is overwhelmingly white or monoracial. Students (the consumers of the college product) WANT more racial/ethnic diversity. A college that can attract diverse student body is able to attract more students to matriculate there. They are in the sales business.

What a totally ridiculous answer. You’re implying that diverse students couldn’t possibly be accepted on their own merit and instead have to be chosen due to their race. This is exactly why DEI needs to be a thing of the past.
DP

Nobody believes that blacks are incapable of excelling more than the woke left.

+100
The left has always, always underestimated black people (and Hispanic, etc.) - to their detriment. It's astounding to me that more minorities don't speak up and insist on being judged on their merits and not on the color of their skin. How insulting.

The funny thing is that the "woke left" isn't comprised of blacks or hispanics ( even though one person, AOC, is prominent). It's the white Bernie bros living in uber blue gentrified neighborhoods. They don’t like blacks either. Politically, to them, blacks are the "establishment." The irony.

Regardless of political ideology, blacks are either the scapegoats or punching bags.

Sad.

A scapegoat is the same thing as a punching bag and black people are neither. Try empowering minorities instead of constantly painting them as victims.

Tell that to FOX News and MAGA.

Grow up. Neither Fox nor MAGA treat black people as scapegoats. Do better.