Tufts student detained by ICE

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This young woman wrote the piece in MArch of 2024 - a year ago. It was perfectly fine then. Now, with a new administration, with no notice and with no guidance, the rules have change. What the administration has done is effectively declared the Act they are using unconstitutional. It is void for vagueness. There is no possible way to know if the conduct you engage in today will be declared criminal or a deportable offense tomorrow.

Sorry MAGA. You chased your tail and caught it

It also seems to violate Section I of the Constitution that prohibits ex-post facto laws, specifically the "changes in punishment" case law:
https://law.justia.com/constitution/us/article-1/70-ex-post-facto-laws.html

Non-citizens are subject to administrative rules under existing laws.

This is similar to corporate regulation, except the Supreme Court ruled in Chevron that corporations are not obligated to follow administrative rules.

The "rule of law" relies on goood faith, precedent, and the implicit threat of rebellion. It cannot survive malicious action by government.

[Anonymous]

If we cannot file felony criminal charges against these individuals within the time limit established by our laws, why are we not simply putting them on the next plane departing for their home country?

[Anonymous]

I’m fine with revoking status and deporting this folks. I don’t understand the detentions. Why not just revoke the status and send them on their way? It seems the lengthy detentions are what’s causing the biggest issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with revoking status and deporting this folks. I don’t understand the detentions. Why not just revoke the status and send them on their way? It seems the lengthy detentions are what’s causing the biggest issue.

The private detention centers are able to charge the US government a lot of money per detainee.

This is a profit making scheme. They are transferring wealth away from regular citizens and into the hands of the very wealthy.

It’s the reason it’s all happening at lightning speed. So they can suck all the money they possibly can from the government before we can stop it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My guess would be that she was working with Hamas. Hamas is coordinating with many student groups around the country. One group at Columbia was silent for months on social media then posted three minutes before the attack in Israel.

Who came up with that? Fox News or Newsmax?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with revoking status and deporting this folks. I don’t understand the detentions. Why not just revoke the status and send them on their way? It seems the lengthy detentions are what’s causing the biggest issue.

The detentions are while awaiting a hearing before an immigration judge, probably under better conditions than those they'll face back in their home countries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with revoking status and deporting this folks. I don’t understand the detentions. Why not just revoke the status and send them on their way? It seems the lengthy detentions are what’s causing the biggest issue.

The detentions are while awaiting a hearing before an immigration judge, probably under better conditions than those they'll face back in their home countries.

Liar

Her lawyer didn't know where she was at one point.

Nothing ordinary about this

[Anonymous]

My point is, I’m fine with revoking student visas or not renewing provisional green cards, but why are we not just giving them notice and telling them to be gone by X date?

This is the part I don’t understand. The way it’s been handled makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My point is, I’m fine with revoking student visas or not renewing provisional green cards, but why are we not just giving them notice and telling them to be gone by X date?

This is the part I don’t understand. The way it’s been handled makes no sense.

I asked chat gpt that. There a few ways it can pan out. If she decides she wants to be deported that’s the quickest way to be freed from detention and she’ll be out of the country in 6 to 8 weeks. If she wants to fight the deportation it could take months. She will be in detention all this while, technically she can be freed on bond but unlikely as she may be a flight risk. But she’ll get her day in court in deportation proceedings. At this point since a federal judge intervened she cannot not voluntary deport.


This is so the deportation case works its way through the courts. The Indian graduate student from Columbia was smart enough to self deport.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with revoking status and deporting this folks. I don’t understand the detentions. Why not just revoke the status and send them on their way? It seems the lengthy detentions are what’s causing the biggest issue.

The detentions are while awaiting a hearing before an immigration judge, probably under better conditions than those they'll face back in their home countries.

Liar

Her lawyer didn't know where she was at one point.

Nothing ordinary about this

Shockingly ICE has one facility in state and it is a transfer facility- not really a detention center so those they pick up are almost moved 100% to another state.
ICE does this all the time. Pretty ordinary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My point is, I’m fine with revoking student visas or not renewing provisional green cards, but why are we not just giving them notice and telling them to be gone by X date?

This is the part I don’t understand. The way it’s been handled makes no sense.

I asked chat gpt that. There a few ways it can pan out. If she decides she wants to be deported that’s the quickest way to be freed from detention and she’ll be out of the country in 6 to 8 weeks. If she wants to fight the deportation it could take months. She will be in detention all this while, technically she can be freed on bond but unlikely as she may be a flight risk. But she’ll get her day in court in deportation proceedings. At this point since a federal judge intervened she cannot not voluntary deport.


This is so the deportation case works its way through the courts. The Indian graduate student from Columbia was smart enough to self deport.

Interesting. So these people do have a choice and are hoping the media attention will help their cause and allow them to stay in the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with revoking status and deporting this folks. I don’t understand the detentions. Why not just revoke the status and send them on their way? It seems the lengthy detentions are what’s causing the biggest issue.

The detentions are while awaiting a hearing before an immigration judge, probably under better conditions than those they'll face back in their home countries.

Liar

Her lawyer didn't know where she was at one point.

Nothing ordinary about this

Her lawyer's ignorance of her location says nothing about where or why she is being detained. The point stands.

[Anonymous]

This just in from the Boston Globe. She is now being represented by the ACLU, in addition to her private lawyer. I've included the highlights of the article below. I can gift the article, if anyone is interested.

Tufts student was not notified her visa was revoked shortly before masked ICE agents arrested her, defense says

The Trump administration revoked the visa of a Tufts graduate student on March 21 but never notified her before masked Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents swarmed her on a Somerville sidewalk Tuesday and took her into custody, records show.

Once Rümeysa Öztürk was in ICE custody, her friends, her attorney, and the Turkish consulate could not locate her for 24 hours, during which she suffered an asthma attack [my note: elsewhere I read that she was whisked away so quickly that she never got to grab the two inhalers she uses for her asthma], according to a new court filing Friday by her attorneys.

Her attorneys argue that Öztürk, a 30-year-old PhD student from Turkey, is being targeted for taking a public pro-Palestinian stance on Tufts campus last year in violation of her First Amendment right to free speech.

The latest filing also asserts that Öztürk’s Fifth Amendment right to due process was violated since she was unaware her visa was revoked when ICE agents placed her in handcuffs outside her home.

The defense also argues that the administration did not follow Department of Homeland Security rules that apply when an international student has visa issues. Öztürk should not have been arrested but notified that a hearing was to be held on the matter at a future date, the lawyers say in the filing.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/03/28/metro/tufts-student-in-ice-custody-aclu/?p1=HP_Feed_ContentQuery

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This just in from the Boston Globe. She is now being represented by the ACLU, in addition to her private lawyer. I've included the highlights of the article below. I can gift the article, if anyone is interested.

Tufts student was not notified her visa was revoked shortly before masked ICE agents arrested her, defense says

The Trump administration revoked the visa of a Tufts graduate student on March 21 but never notified her before masked Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents swarmed her on a Somerville sidewalk Tuesday and took her into custody, records show.

Once Rümeysa Öztürk was in ICE custody, her friends, her attorney, and the Turkish consulate could not locate her for 24 hours, during which she suffered an asthma attack [my note: elsewhere I read that she was whisked away so quickly that she never got to grab the two inhalers she uses for her asthma], according to a new court filing Friday by her attorneys.

Her attorneys argue that Öztürk, a 30-year-old PhD student from Turkey, is being targeted for taking a public pro-Palestinian stance on Tufts campus last year in violation of her First Amendment right to free speech.

The latest filing also asserts that Öztürk’s Fifth Amendment right to due process was violated since she was unaware her visa was revoked when ICE agents placed her in handcuffs outside her home.

The defense also argues that the administration did not follow Department of Homeland Security rules that apply when an international student has visa issues. Öztürk should not have been arrested but notified that a hearing was to be held on the matter at a future date, the lawyers say in the filing.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/03/28/metro/tufts-student-in-ice-custody-aclu/?p1=HP_Feed_ContentQuery

She was not accorded anything approaching a civilized and lawful standard for handling her visa issue. We are better than this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My guess would be that she was working with Hamas. Hamas is coordinating with many student groups around the country. One group at Columbia was silent for months on social media then posted three minutes before the attack in Israel.

Who came up with that? Fox News or Newsmax?

It is in a lawsuit filed against one of these student groups.