
A woman has never broken a man’s record. Phelps’ records have all been broken. Perhaps sex is a bigger differentiator than wingspan or foot size. |
Of course it’s fair. He is a man, competing with men. |
so even if she was born with female sex organs, you want her to transition to male? It is illegal in her country. |
Yeah well, it is all speculation. And intersex indicates that sex is really more bimodal than binary. If we accept that ANY presence of an X or Y makes someone male or female, than we ignore that XY gonadal dysgenesis (with Y chromosome, but dysfunctional SRY group) exists, which presents externally as female. 46,XX/46,XY chimerism also exists, which can result in either indeterminate sex characteristics or just entirely male or female presentation. To add: an XY-female who has an Y-chromosome but either suffers from androgen insensitivity or a damaged SRY-gene is not a "male" as we know it, no more than an XX-male with a translocated SRY-gene to one of the other chromosomes is a “female." It is just too complicated, so why not keep it simple. Birth certificates. Otherwise, we have to also account for other anomalies like height and lung capacity and musculature. |
Which no one has produced. They made reference to them but didn’t release them. So what you have is a test that maybe took place and maybe said something but maybe not. That’s hardly a citation. |
This affects 1 in 80,000. So there's 100,000 on earth living with this. That's not a small number. |
Yeah, and Khelif is a woman competing with other women. |
Haha, the world is not black and white as you wish. |
So what are we supposed to do with them? We can't discriminate against people who are born with development issues. It is not like they want to be a female in a male dominated backward society. |
Back to the origin of this thread:
It seems that Rowling has a lot of company with bullies who want to dictate what a woman should look like, ie. she's not a "real woman." By trying to vociferously defend women-only spaces she's opened the misogynist trap of trying to force out women who don't meet JK Rowling-approved aesthetics for "women." Even if that person has been raised a woman her entire life in a deeply religious and conservative culture where women are 2nd class citizens and she's had to fight for every scrap. Sad. Ironic. Hubristic. |
It's not actually that rare. It's like 2% of the population. And to the extent it provides an athletic advantage, they likely show up disproportionately among female athletes. Many elite female athletes have "manly" looks to them. I would not be surprised if a good number of female weightlifters, wrestlers, judo/taekwando, throwers, runners, etc. are intersex. For that matter, how do you know that Sydney McLaughlin is not intersex? Do you have her genetic tests? She's obviously pretty hot, but she's got a pretty square jawline. |
Plenty of track and field elite female athletes have higher testosterone levels, and they are prettier and more feminine than most of the keyboard warriors. |
NP. Of course, but there should be a separate category for them. It’s interesting in regards to whether physical size is a required advantage, it is always XY chromosomes competing in XX spaces and feeling entitled. You rarely if ever hear about XX chromosome people trying to competitively compete in XY personal spaces. |
These people do not experience male puberty, have a uterus, and can birth babies. They should compete with women. Let us know when the boxer is diagnosed with this disorder. People who can father children should not compete with women. |