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Anonymous wrote:Once again, FCPS is looking thru their equity lens; this a part of the great plan to boost achievement and of course lessen the FARMS numbers. I hope parents refuse to accept this arrangement.

They will. I think sandy has gotten hundreds of emails and there are parent FB groups to band together.

This is going to get very messy and very ugly.

No it isn't. If you watched the meeting, there were about 100 viewing and a room full of Langley parents not wanting to get shifted to Herndon. They all had the same signs and reactions. Nobody cares about any of this except Hunt Valley families. In fact, Forestville folks can almost breathe a little easier because there is no way they would move them if they don't move Hunt Valley.

If maps are drawn that places HV or any West Springfield elementary at Lewis, you don’t think it’s going to get ugly from those parents. It’s not just HV that cares. WS and Keene Mill parents are also watching closely.

WS and Keene are safe. If you know, you know.

No I don’t know. Why?

If HV is moved then they are just creating another attendance island which they wanted to eliminate.

Nope. HV is contiguous with Saratoga, which feeds to Lewis. It would not create an attendance island.

Rezoning Hunt Valley to Lewis would create a gerrymandered tentacle border, with a more than double bus commute.

But it would not create an attendance island, as PP asserted. Try to keep up.

Barely any of Hunt Valley is contiguous to Saratoga/Lewis.

Rezoning HV to Lewis would make the Lewis boundary a giant C shape that wraps around much of the WSHS zone and bisects the previous compact and circular WSHS boundary.

It would bisect the WSHS boundaries to the point that Orange Hunt Elementary would nearly become an attendance island.

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Can none of the school board read a map?

Rezoning Hunt Valley to Lewis basically cuts the WSHS zone nearly in half, with most of Hunt Valley separating most of Orange Hunt from the rest of the WSHS boundary.

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If the relocate Hunt Valley to Lewis, the new WSHS boundaries will look something like this:

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, FCPS is looking thru their equity lens; this a part of the great plan to boost achievement and of course lessen the FARMS numbers. I hope parents refuse to accept this arrangement.

They will. I think sandy has gotten hundreds of emails and there are parent FB groups to band together.

This is going to get very messy and very ugly.

No it isn't. If you watched the meeting, there were about 100 viewing and a room full of Langley parents not wanting to get shifted to Herndon. They all had the same signs and reactions. Nobody cares about any of this except Hunt Valley families. In fact, Forestville folks can almost breathe a little easier because there is no way they would move them if they don't move Hunt Valley.

If maps are drawn that places HV or any West Springfield elementary at Lewis, you don’t think it’s going to get ugly from those parents. It’s not just HV that cares. WS and Keene Mill parents are also watching closely.

WS and Keene are safe. If you know, you know.

But wasn’t WSES the one that got gerrymandered OUT of Pat Herrity’s magisterial district? It was discussed in the old thread. There was something very fishy going on there.

Yes, only the “walkers” to Irving MS stayed in the Springfield SB District. The rest of WSES was redistricted to Franconia SB District (where Lewis is). It’s not too hard to see what the plan is. The eastern neighborhoods of WSES are closer to Lewis than WSHS. Except for a few streets that are “walker” distance to Irving MS, moving WSES reduces overcrowding as WSHS and Irving MS, satisfies the “transportation” requirements in the new policy and helps the equity goals of the SB.

Wouldn’t be surprised if the southern HVES neighborhood south of the parkway was also broken off and added to their neighboring ES and fed into SoCo HS freeing up space in HVES to fix overcrowding as HVES and OHES (eliminating the trailers at both schools, another stated SB goal) while allowing both schools the capacity they need to bring AAP4 in-house at the schools (another stated SB goal).

The smartest thing and least disruptive would be to move the Sangster and Keene Mill attendance islands to Lake Braddock and call it a day. It would fix the crowding and the school board wouldn't hear a peep from anyone.

The 2nd option should be moving Daventry back to Lewis, and leaving the rest of West Springfield alone.

I agree. This is most likely.

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But wasn’t WSES the one that got gerrymandered OUT of Pat Herrity’s magisterial district? It was discussed in the old thread. There was something very fishy going on there.

Yes, only the “walkers” to Irving MS stayed in the Springfield SB District. The rest of WSES was redistricted to Franconia SB District (where Lewis is). It’s not too hard to see what the plan is. The eastern neighborhoods of WSES are closer to Lewis than WSHS. Except for a few streets that are “walker” distance to Irving MS, moving WSES reduces overcrowding as WSHS and Irving MS, satisfies the “transportation” requirements in the new policy and helps the equity goals of the SB.

Wouldn’t be surprised if the southern HVES neighborhood south of the parkway was also broken off and added to their neighboring ES and fed into SoCo HS freeing up space in HVES to fix overcrowding as HVES and OHES (eliminating the trailers at both schools, another stated SB goal) while allowing both schools the capacity they need to bring AAP4 in-house at the schools (another stated SB goal).

I live in this area and your predictions make total sense to me. But that doesn’t mean the School Board agrees. I don’t trust them to make any sort of predictable or sensible decisions. And I really feel for all the families that may be impacted.

We will have to wait and see what is proposed, but the SB is a political animal.

The least politically risky move is to do nothing in the WSHS pyramid. But if they truly feel that WSHS and Irving MS are overcrowded, they are going to do something. Plus, I think they seem to want to address Lewis HS's performance and attendance.

The least politically troublesome way to address the WSHS pyramid crowding is some combination of nibbling at the edges. Move the split feeds at Sangster ES and KMES that feed into WSHS to LBHS. No one is really going to complain about that (White Oaks ES has capacity). Move the the HVES neighborhood south of the parkway and the Sangster ES island south of Hunt valley to SoCo HS (Newington is at 92% capacity and is projected to drop to 82% capacity). This might upset folks, but they smaller populations, and the move from WSHS to SoCo (which is actually closer to these homes that WSHS) will be more politically accepted that a move to Lewis (which is much further from these homes). to The most controversial "nibble" would be to move the Daventry neighborhood of WSES from WHSH back to Lewis (this neighborhood was moved from Lewis to WSHS about 10 years ago). This would be very upsetting for those families, but it is not politically risky. These homes are in a political island where they are represented by the SB member and FFX Co Board member that represents Lewis HS, not WSHS. All of these changes would tick many of the boxes in the new SB boundary policy --- capacity, proximity, transportation, eliminating split-feeders.

A little riskier of a political move would be to move WSES entirely to Lewis (except for the homes within walking distance of Irving MS, which could be absorbed by RVES). Most of the WSES neighborhood is actually physically closer to Lewis than WSHS, and WSES has in-house AAP4, similar to the rest of the elementary schools that feed into Key/Lewis. WSES probably would even have capacity to absorb the kids at RVES that already feed into Lewis once WSES loses the walkers to Irving MS, so you could eliminate the split feeder at RVES. The effected families would be very upset. But again the affected WSES homes are in a political island. They are represented by the SB member and FFX Co Board member that represents Lewis HS. There their frustration is not a threat to the Springfield SB member or the Springfield FFX Co Board member, and their frustration would also likely be drowned out in their actual political districts (the Franconia SB district and the Lee FFX Co Board district) by their fellow voters that may be happy with the SB addressing Lewis. Again this ticks many of the boxes in the new SB boundary policy --- capacity, proximity (only for HS, not MS), transportation (only for HS, not MS), BUT it also addresses "access to programming" at Lewis HS.

Another low risk political move would by to moves KMES. But that school is within 300 yards of Irving MS, so that would be a bit crazy to move it. Politically speaking, those homes are also in a political island because they were redistricted to the Braddock SB district.

The most politically toxic decision would be to move RVES or HVES to Lewis. Both RVES and HVES are much closer to WSHS (and SoCo HS and LBHS for that matter) than Lewis, so moving it would violate the proximity and transportation criteria of the new SM boundary policy. Practically speaking, it is also important to notice that neither of these schools have in-house AAP4, which means that they would need to on-board their current AAP4 students (~100 kids) back into the schools. RVES may have capacity to do that, but HVES is already over capacity with 2-3 trailers; there is nowhere to put 100 more kids. But, as I noted, this decision would pose the biggest political problem. These families moved there specifically for the schools (like everyone else) and would be furious. But unlike WSES or KMES, both RVES and HVES are located entirely within the Springfield SB district and the Springfield FFX Co Board district. Those members would feel the full blowback in their next elections. Why take that risk?

The entire golf course neighborhood through Springfield Village Drive (at Rolling/Parkway) is walkable to WSES and to WSHS.

All of the WSHS elementary schools have large portions of their neighborhoods that are walkabe yo WSHS, and the entire boundary is bikable to WSHS, with the exception of possibly Daventry.

I wish I could post a pic. Follow this link.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/SY2024-25MagisterialDistricts.pdf

You will see that the county already redistricted the west springfield elementary houses more than 1 mile from irving into the Franconia district to the east. Minimizes the political fallout if they move the school. Also minimizes the cost impact because those kids are already on a bus for a similar distance to west springfield hs vs lewis, but a longer drive for middle school of course.

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Why is there a neighbohood right next to White Oaks elementary go all the way across the zip code to Keene Mill Elementary?

That is easily one of the worst attendance islands in all of Fairfax County.

Shouldn't that be the neighborhood to be rezoned out of WSHS?

Reid should switch that neighborhood to walkable White Oaks in their back yard, and much closer Lake Braddock, and leave the rest of WSHS alone.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is there a neighbohood right next to White Oaks elementary go all the way across the zip code to Keene Mill Elementary?

That is easily one of the worst attendance islands in all of Fairfax County.

Shouldn't that be the neighborhood to be rezoned out of WSHS?

Reid should switch that neighborhood to walkable White Oaks in their back yard, and much closer Lake Braddock, and leave the rest of WSHS alone.

Then it also wouldn’t make sense to move Keene mill to LB.

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, FCPS is looking thru their equity lens; this a part of the great plan to boost achievement and of course lessen the FARMS numbers. I hope parents refuse to accept this arrangement.

They will. I think sandy has gotten hundreds of emails and there are parent FB groups to band together.

This is going to get very messy and very ugly.

No it isn't. If you watched the meeting, there were about 100 viewing and a room full of Langley parents not wanting to get shifted to Herndon. They all had the same signs and reactions. Nobody cares about any of this except Hunt Valley families. In fact, Forestville folks can almost breathe a little easier because there is no way they would move them if they don't move Hunt Valley.

If maps are drawn that places HV or any West Springfield elementary at Lewis, you don’t think it’s going to get ugly from those parents. It’s not just HV that cares. WS and Keene Mill parents are also watching closely.

WS and Keene are safe. If you know, you know.

But wasn’t WSES the one that got gerrymandered OUT of Pat Herrity’s magisterial district? It was discussed in the old thread. There was something very fishy going on there.

Yes, only the “walkers” to Irving MS stayed in the Springfield SB District. The rest of WSES was redistricted to Franconia SB District (where Lewis is). It’s not too hard to see what the plan is. The eastern neighborhoods of WSES are closer to Lewis than WSHS. Except for a few streets that are “walker” distance to Irving MS, moving WSES reduces overcrowding as WSHS and Irving MS, satisfies the “transportation” requirements in the new policy and helps the equity goals of the SB.

Wouldn’t be surprised if the southern HVES neighborhood south of the parkway was also broken off and added to their neighboring ES and fed into SoCo HS freeing up space in HVES to fix overcrowding as HVES and OHES (eliminating the trailers at both schools, another stated SB goal) while allowing both schools the capacity they need to bring AAP4 in-house at the schools (another stated SB goal).

The smartest thing and least disruptive would be to move the Sangster and Keene Mill attendance islands to Lake Braddock and call it a day. It would fix the crowding and the school board wouldn't hear a peep from anyone.

The 2nd option should be moving Daventry back to Lewis, and leaving the rest of West Springfield alone.

I agree. This is most likely.

I don’t know if this is most likely but it would solve whatever problem they think they have with WSHS overcrowdeding without upsetting the community.

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Anonymous wrote:If the relocate Hunt Valley to Lewis, the new WSHS boundaries will look something like this:

Now express similar outrage about any the little pockets of Herndon, Reston, and Vienna currently zoned to Langley. We’ll wait.

This thread is about Springfield, note the name of our SB rep in the thread title.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is there a neighbohood right next to White Oaks elementary go all the way across the zip code to Keene Mill Elementary?

That is easily one of the worst attendance islands in all of Fairfax County.

Shouldn't that be the neighborhood to be rezoned out of WSHS?

Reid should switch that neighborhood to walkable White Oaks in their back yard, and much closer Lake Braddock, and leave the rest of WSHS alone.

Then it also wouldn’t make sense to move Keene mill to LB.

That one neighbohood sits on the border of White Oaks/LB.

Almost all of the Cardinal Forest zone and most of the Rolling Rolling Valley zone separate that Keene Mill island from KM. And it is wrapped by Orange Hunt along half its boundary.

The Keene Mill island should be rezoned to LB and White Oaks.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is there a neighbohood right next to White Oaks elementary go all the way across the zip code to Keene Mill Elementary?

That is easily one of the worst attendance islands in all of Fairfax County.

Shouldn't that be the neighborhood to be rezoned out of WSHS?

Reid should switch that neighborhood to walkable White Oaks in their back yard, and much closer Lake Braddock, and leave the rest of WSHS alone.

Then it also wouldn’t make sense to move Keene mill to LB.

Sure.

Or if a school needs to go to Lewis, KM is as close to Lewis as the border of WSES.

Keene Mill getting rezoned to Lewis would give Lewis an AAP program.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is there a neighbohood right next to White Oaks elementary go all the way across the zip code to Keene Mill Elementary?

That is easily one of the worst attendance islands in all of Fairfax County.

Shouldn't that be the neighborhood to be rezoned out of WSHS?

Reid should switch that neighborhood to walkable White Oaks in their back yard, and much closer Lake Braddock, and leave the rest of WSHS alone.

Then it also wouldn’t make sense to move Keene mill to LB.

Sure.

Or if a school needs to go to Lewis, KM is as close to Lewis as the border of WSES.

Keene Mill getting rezoned to Lewis would give Lewis an AAP program.

Lewis already has an AAP program. Springfield Estates. PP is recommending sending the KM attendance island on the west side of the boundaries to LB.

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Below is Sandy's response to a concern for bussing HVES students to Lewis HS.

"Thank you for your email. I appreciate you sharing your time and thoughts. No specific boundaries have been discussed at this point in the process, and as far as I know currently, there are no specific plans to move Hunt Valley to the Lewis pyramid.

Please know that as we move through this process, I will be advocating for kids across the Springfield district. Thank you for your patience as we determine the path ahead. Communities will have time and space to input just these types of suggestions with the Superintendent’s robust community engagement. I will definitely make sure that I am publicizing all those opportunities through my newsletter as they arise.

In the meantime, continue to check the FCPS website for current information. The site will be updated with a timeline after it is presented to the Board. The Superintendent couldn't set a timeline in place until the policy was approved, so the Board is awaiting that proposal.

Thank you,
Sandy"

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon is nowhere remotely close to losing accreditation. Those are just falsehoods spread by Great Falls residents who don’t want district boundaries changed.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/community-family/3110860/fairfax-county-high-schools-likely-lose-accreditation-under-virginias-standards/

PP should have added “Republican operatives” although many of them live in Great Falls as well.

The author of that piece traffics in rumors, not facts.

Which facts in the article are wrong?
The data?
That new standards are imminent?

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No doubt Sandy Anderson will try to ruin the school experiences of lots of kids outside Springfield as well. Rein in your toxic little housefrau.