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Anonymous wrote:As a current SR parent, I am absolutely disgusted by this entire thread, and even more disgusted that it hasn’t been shut down. The fact that there are over 200 posts about 1 teacher - a human being - who isn’t here to defend himself, and people can just freely shame, defend, or generally talk about behind a computer screen without all the facts is just gross to me. It’s no wonder our kids are struggling in so many ways - we as parents set the example and it starts with us. Be better.

Fair point. I jumped in to offer support to the school and to him, but now see it wasn’t helpful at all.

I did the same. I thought that defending an educator who has been nothing but supportive to my daughters for years was the right thing to do but I see how this just gives more fuel to his critics. If my girls weren’t already in high school I’d be looking for a new school, I’ve learned a lot about my fellow SR parents and am disgusted.

I don’t understand, if you don’t believe in Catholic values, why did you send your daughters to a Catholic school all these years? SR is as a foundation, a Catholic school. If you support a teacher who had been trying to subvert Catholic values at a Catholic school, then I would say, you, like him, shouldn’t be at a Catholic school.

I don’t believe he’s been subverting Catholic values, I think he said one stupid thing that has been taken out of context. I am a Catholic who has read all of the papal Enciclicals around sexuality and he is no more out of line with catholic doctrine than any teacher who has used artificial birth control. Is anyone going after them? My family has been in Catholic schools for generations, admittedly my grandparents generation were much more devout with daily mass as part of their practice. It’s really odd to see all of these families come to my Catholic school, many of whom aren’t Catholic just MAGA conservatives, and suddenly they’re the Catholic police.

He said he feels great about subverted Catholic values. How much worse could it be? Even if he did not subvert the Catholic teachings in that act, he said he felt great about subverting Catholic teachings, and that is the crux of the matter.

That’s not what he said. He said “subverting the Catholic Church’s agenda on homosexuality”.

Agendas aren’t values.

Mince words however you want, he did say he has been purposely subverting Catholic teachings. The Catholic Church has not embraced the doctrines of LGBTQ, so he is working against the Catholic Church. If he doesn’t agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school.

What specifically are the Catholic Church "teachings" on homosexuality?

And "teachings" is still different than "agenda". Teachings may support an agenda but they are different things.

You can Google that yourself if you need to educate yourself further. The final point of this thread is: If an educator does not agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school. There are plenty of public Moco schools or woke private schools that will embrace him with open arms.

Which catholic teachings? We are all required to go to weekly mass, if we have a teacher come in and share that they spent their weekend not attending mass should they be out?

Actually, this is not an issue of a teacher's particular behavior. Of course there are many non-Catholic teachers that do not attend weekly mass. There are also teachers that engage in other sinful acts on a daily basis. As long as they don't bring those concepts into the classroom and imply that it is fine to engage in those behaviors, there would not be an issue. That dean was gay. Assuming he acted on his sexual preferences, he would be sinning. That wasn't the issue here. It was him admitting that he enjoyed subverting Catholic doctrine in the classroom by helping to affirm students' gender or sexual identities.

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Anonymous wrote:As a current SR parent, I am absolutely disgusted by this entire thread, and even more disgusted that it hasn’t been shut down. The fact that there are over 200 posts about 1 teacher - a human being - who isn’t here to defend himself, and people can just freely shame, defend, or generally talk about behind a computer screen without all the facts is just gross to me. It’s no wonder our kids are struggling in so many ways - we as parents set the example and it starts with us. Be better.

Fair point. I jumped in to offer support to the school and to him, but now see it wasn’t helpful at all.

I did the same. I thought that defending an educator who has been nothing but supportive to my daughters for years was the right thing to do but I see how this just gives more fuel to his critics. If my girls weren’t already in high school I’d be looking for a new school, I’ve learned a lot about my fellow SR parents and am disgusted.

I don’t understand, if you don’t believe in Catholic values, why did you send your daughters to a Catholic school all these years? SR is as a foundation, a Catholic school. If you support a teacher who had been trying to subvert Catholic values at a Catholic school, then I would say, you, like him, shouldn’t be at a Catholic school.

I don’t believe he’s been subverting Catholic values, I think he said one stupid thing that has been taken out of context. I am a Catholic who has read all of the papal Enciclicals around sexuality and he is no more out of line with catholic doctrine than any teacher who has used artificial birth control. Is anyone going after them? My family has been in Catholic schools for generations, admittedly my grandparents generation were much more devout with daily mass as part of their practice. It’s really odd to see all of these families come to my Catholic school, many of whom aren’t Catholic just MAGA conservatives, and suddenly they’re the Catholic police.

He said he feels great about subverted Catholic values. How much worse could it be? Even if he did not subvert the Catholic teachings in that act, he said he felt great about subverting Catholic teachings, and that is the crux of the matter.

That’s not what he said. He said “subverting the Catholic Church’s agenda on homosexuality”.

Agendas aren’t values.

Mince words however you want, he did say he has been purposely subverting Catholic teachings. The Catholic Church has not embraced the doctrines of LGBTQ, so he is working against the Catholic Church. If he doesn’t agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school.

What specifically are the Catholic Church "teachings" on homosexuality?

And "teachings" is still different than "agenda". Teachings may support an agenda but they are different things.

You can Google that yourself if you need to educate yourself further. The final point of this thread is: If an educator does not agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school. There are plenty of public Moco schools or woke private schools that will embrace him with open arms.

No - because then we would have no educators.

Interesting how some people are so "concerned" about "Catholic teachings" only when it comes to LGBTQ issues...very telling.

So you are implying that it is ok for a teacher to pass out condoms in a classroom of a Catholic school, because most Catholic teachers have used them? Got it.

You are very selective in your enforcement of Catholic teachings. All Catholics are imperfect Catholics who are called to love their neighbors. Let’s put that teaching first.

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Anonymous wrote:As a current SR parent, I am absolutely disgusted by this entire thread, and even more disgusted that it hasn’t been shut down. The fact that there are over 200 posts about 1 teacher - a human being - who isn’t here to defend himself, and people can just freely shame, defend, or generally talk about behind a computer screen without all the facts is just gross to me. It’s no wonder our kids are struggling in so many ways - we as parents set the example and it starts with us. Be better.

Fair point. I jumped in to offer support to the school and to him, but now see it wasn’t helpful at all.

I did the same. I thought that defending an educator who has been nothing but supportive to my daughters for years was the right thing to do but I see how this just gives more fuel to his critics. If my girls weren’t already in high school I’d be looking for a new school, I’ve learned a lot about my fellow SR parents and am disgusted.

I don’t understand, if you don’t believe in Catholic values, why did you send your daughters to a Catholic school all these years? SR is as a foundation, a Catholic school. If you support a teacher who had been trying to subvert Catholic values at a Catholic school, then I would say, you, like him, shouldn’t be at a Catholic school.

I don’t believe he’s been subverting Catholic values, I think he said one stupid thing that has been taken out of context. I am a Catholic who has read all of the papal Enciclicals around sexuality and he is no more out of line with catholic doctrine than any teacher who has used artificial birth control. Is anyone going after them? My family has been in Catholic schools for generations, admittedly my grandparents generation were much more devout with daily mass as part of their practice. It’s really odd to see all of these families come to my Catholic school, many of whom aren’t Catholic just MAGA conservatives, and suddenly they’re the Catholic police.

He said he feels great about subverted Catholic values. How much worse could it be? Even if he did not subvert the Catholic teachings in that act, he said he felt great about subverting Catholic teachings, and that is the crux of the matter.

That’s not what he said. He said “subverting the Catholic Church’s agenda on homosexuality”.

Agendas aren’t values.

Mince words however you want, he did say he has been purposely subverting Catholic teachings. The Catholic Church has not embraced the doctrines of LGBTQ, so he is working against the Catholic Church. If he doesn’t agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school.

What specifically are the Catholic Church "teachings" on homosexuality?

And "teachings" is still different than "agenda". Teachings may support an agenda but they are different things.

You can Google that yourself if you need to educate yourself further. The final point of this thread is: If an educator does not agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school. There are plenty of public Moco schools or woke private schools that will embrace him with open arms.

No - because then we would have no educators.

Interesting how some people are so "concerned" about "Catholic teachings" only when it comes to LGBTQ issues...very telling.

So you are implying that it is ok for a teacher to pass out condoms in a classroom of a Catholic school, because most Catholic teachers have used them? Got it.

False equivalence. He wasn't encouraging students to become homosexual.

He was "affirming" their identities, while initially keeping parents out of the loop. He said it on the tape.

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Anonymous wrote:As a current SR parent, I am absolutely disgusted by this entire thread, and even more disgusted that it hasn’t been shut down. The fact that there are over 200 posts about 1 teacher - a human being - who isn’t here to defend himself, and people can just freely shame, defend, or generally talk about behind a computer screen without all the facts is just gross to me. It’s no wonder our kids are struggling in so many ways - we as parents set the example and it starts with us. Be better.

Fair point. I jumped in to offer support to the school and to him, but now see it wasn’t helpful at all.

I did the same. I thought that defending an educator who has been nothing but supportive to my daughters for years was the right thing to do but I see how this just gives more fuel to his critics. If my girls weren’t already in high school I’d be looking for a new school, I’ve learned a lot about my fellow SR parents and am disgusted.

I don’t understand, if you don’t believe in Catholic values, why did you send your daughters to a Catholic school all these years? SR is as a foundation, a Catholic school. If you support a teacher who had been trying to subvert Catholic values at a Catholic school, then I would say, you, like him, shouldn’t be at a Catholic school.

I don’t believe he’s been subverting Catholic values, I think he said one stupid thing that has been taken out of context. I am a Catholic who has read all of the papal Enciclicals around sexuality and he is no more out of line with catholic doctrine than any teacher who has used artificial birth control. Is anyone going after them? My family has been in Catholic schools for generations, admittedly my grandparents generation were much more devout with daily mass as part of their practice. It’s really odd to see all of these families come to my Catholic school, many of whom aren’t Catholic just MAGA conservatives, and suddenly they’re the Catholic police.

He said he feels great about subverted Catholic values. How much worse could it be? Even if he did not subvert the Catholic teachings in that act, he said he felt great about subverting Catholic teachings, and that is the crux of the matter.

That’s not what he said. He said “subverting the Catholic Church’s agenda on homosexuality”.

Agendas aren’t values.

Mince words however you want, he did say he has been purposely subverting Catholic teachings. The Catholic Church has not embraced the doctrines of LGBTQ, so he is working against the Catholic Church. If he doesn’t agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school.

What specifically are the Catholic Church "teachings" on homosexuality?

And "teachings" is still different than "agenda". Teachings may support an agenda but they are different things.

You can Google that yourself if you need to educate yourself further. The final point of this thread is: If an educator does not agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school. There are plenty of public Moco schools or woke private schools that will embrace him with open arms.

No - because then we would have no educators.

Interesting how some people are so "concerned" about "Catholic teachings" only when it comes to LGBTQ issues...very telling.

So you are implying that it is ok for a teacher to pass out condoms in a classroom of a Catholic school, because most Catholic teachers have used them? Got it.

False equivalence. He wasn't encouraging students to become homosexual.

He was "affirming" their identities, while initially keeping parents out of the loop. He said it on the tape.

OK - that's not trying to change the girls, just support them.

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Anonymous wrote:As a current SR parent, I am absolutely disgusted by this entire thread, and even more disgusted that it hasn’t been shut down. The fact that there are over 200 posts about 1 teacher - a human being - who isn’t here to defend himself, and people can just freely shame, defend, or generally talk about behind a computer screen without all the facts is just gross to me. It’s no wonder our kids are struggling in so many ways - we as parents set the example and it starts with us. Be better.

Fair point. I jumped in to offer support to the school and to him, but now see it wasn’t helpful at all.

I did the same. I thought that defending an educator who has been nothing but supportive to my daughters for years was the right thing to do but I see how this just gives more fuel to his critics. If my girls weren’t already in high school I’d be looking for a new school, I’ve learned a lot about my fellow SR parents and am disgusted.

I don’t understand, if you don’t believe in Catholic values, why did you send your daughters to a Catholic school all these years? SR is as a foundation, a Catholic school. If you support a teacher who had been trying to subvert Catholic values at a Catholic school, then I would say, you, like him, shouldn’t be at a Catholic school.

I don’t believe he’s been subverting Catholic values, I think he said one stupid thing that has been taken out of context. I am a Catholic who has read all of the papal Enciclicals around sexuality and he is no more out of line with catholic doctrine than any teacher who has used artificial birth control. Is anyone going after them? My family has been in Catholic schools for generations, admittedly my grandparents generation were much more devout with daily mass as part of their practice. It’s really odd to see all of these families come to my Catholic school, many of whom aren’t Catholic just MAGA conservatives, and suddenly they’re the Catholic police.

He said he feels great about subverted Catholic values. How much worse could it be? Even if he did not subvert the Catholic teachings in that act, he said he felt great about subverting Catholic teachings, and that is the crux of the matter.

That’s not what he said. He said “subverting the Catholic Church’s agenda on homosexuality”.

Agendas aren’t values.

Mince words however you want, he did say he has been purposely subverting Catholic teachings. The Catholic Church has not embraced the doctrines of LGBTQ, so he is working against the Catholic Church. If he doesn’t agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school.

What specifically are the Catholic Church "teachings" on homosexuality?

And "teachings" is still different than "agenda". Teachings may support an agenda but they are different things.

You can Google that yourself if you need to educate yourself further. The final point of this thread is: If an educator does not agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school. There are plenty of public Moco schools or woke private schools that will embrace him with open arms.

Which catholic teachings? We are all required to go to weekly mass, if we have a teacher come in and share that they spent their weekend not attending mass should they be out?

Actually, this is not an issue of a teacher's particular behavior. Of course there are many non-Catholic teachers that do not attend weekly mass. There are also teachers that engage in other sinful acts on a daily basis. As long as they don't bring those concepts into the classroom and imply that it is fine to engage in those behaviors, there would not be an issue. That dean was gay. Assuming he acted on his sexual preferences, he would be sinning. That wasn't the issue here. It was him admitting that he enjoyed subverting Catholic doctrine in the classroom by helping to affirm students' gender or sexual identities.

No, just to subvert the agenda of certain Catholics who are anti-LBTBQ.

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Anonymous wrote:As a current SR parent, I am absolutely disgusted by this entire thread, and even more disgusted that it hasn’t been shut down. The fact that there are over 200 posts about 1 teacher - a human being - who isn’t here to defend himself, and people can just freely shame, defend, or generally talk about behind a computer screen without all the facts is just gross to me. It’s no wonder our kids are struggling in so many ways - we as parents set the example and it starts with us. Be better.

Fair point. I jumped in to offer support to the school and to him, but now see it wasn’t helpful at all.

I did the same. I thought that defending an educator who has been nothing but supportive to my daughters for years was the right thing to do but I see how this just gives more fuel to his critics. If my girls weren’t already in high school I’d be looking for a new school, I’ve learned a lot about my fellow SR parents and am disgusted.

I don’t understand, if you don’t believe in Catholic values, why did you send your daughters to a Catholic school all these years? SR is as a foundation, a Catholic school. If you support a teacher who had been trying to subvert Catholic values at a Catholic school, then I would say, you, like him, shouldn’t be at a Catholic school.

I don’t believe he’s been subverting Catholic values, I think he said one stupid thing that has been taken out of context. I am a Catholic who has read all of the papal Enciclicals around sexuality and he is no more out of line with catholic doctrine than any teacher who has used artificial birth control. Is anyone going after them? My family has been in Catholic schools for generations, admittedly my grandparents generation were much more devout with daily mass as part of their practice. It’s really odd to see all of these families come to my Catholic school, many of whom aren’t Catholic just MAGA conservatives, and suddenly they’re the Catholic police.

He said he feels great about subverted Catholic values. How much worse could it be? Even if he did not subvert the Catholic teachings in that act, he said he felt great about subverting Catholic teachings, and that is the crux of the matter.

That’s not what he said. He said “subverting the Catholic Church’s agenda on homosexuality”.

Agendas aren’t values.

Mince words however you want, he did say he has been purposely subverting Catholic teachings. The Catholic Church has not embraced the doctrines of LGBTQ, so he is working against the Catholic Church. If he doesn’t agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school.

What specifically are the Catholic Church "teachings" on homosexuality?

And "teachings" is still different than "agenda". Teachings may support an agenda but they are different things.

You can Google that yourself if you need to educate yourself further. The final point of this thread is: If an educator does not agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school. There are plenty of public Moco schools or woke private schools that will embrace him with open arms.

Which catholic teachings? We are all required to go to weekly mass, if we have a teacher come in and share that they spent their weekend not attending mass should they be out?

Actually, this is not an issue of a teacher's particular behavior. Of course there are many non-Catholic teachers that do not attend weekly mass. There are also teachers that engage in other sinful acts on a daily basis. As long as they don't bring those concepts into the classroom and imply that it is fine to engage in those behaviors, there would not be an issue. That dean was gay. Assuming he acted on his sexual preferences, he would be sinning. That wasn't the issue here. It was him admitting that he enjoyed subverting Catholic doctrine in the classroom by helping to affirm students' gender or sexual identities.

No, just to subvert the agenda of certain Catholics who are anti-LBTBQ.

Agenda, teachings, doctrine -- these are all synonyms. And he specifically said "Catholic Church," not Catholics in general. Nice try though.

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Anonymous wrote:As a current SR parent, I am absolutely disgusted by this entire thread, and even more disgusted that it hasn’t been shut down. The fact that there are over 200 posts about 1 teacher - a human being - who isn’t here to defend himself, and people can just freely shame, defend, or generally talk about behind a computer screen without all the facts is just gross to me. It’s no wonder our kids are struggling in so many ways - we as parents set the example and it starts with us. Be better.

Fair point. I jumped in to offer support to the school and to him, but now see it wasn’t helpful at all.

I did the same. I thought that defending an educator who has been nothing but supportive to my daughters for years was the right thing to do but I see how this just gives more fuel to his critics. If my girls weren’t already in high school I’d be looking for a new school, I’ve learned a lot about my fellow SR parents and am disgusted.

I don’t understand, if you don’t believe in Catholic values, why did you send your daughters to a Catholic school all these years? SR is as a foundation, a Catholic school. If you support a teacher who had been trying to subvert Catholic values at a Catholic school, then I would say, you, like him, shouldn’t be at a Catholic school.

I don’t believe he’s been subverting Catholic values, I think he said one stupid thing that has been taken out of context. I am a Catholic who has read all of the papal Enciclicals around sexuality and he is no more out of line with catholic doctrine than any teacher who has used artificial birth control. Is anyone going after them? My family has been in Catholic schools for generations, admittedly my grandparents generation were much more devout with daily mass as part of their practice. It’s really odd to see all of these families come to my Catholic school, many of whom aren’t Catholic just MAGA conservatives, and suddenly they’re the Catholic police.

He said he feels great about subverted Catholic values. How much worse could it be? Even if he did not subvert the Catholic teachings in that act, he said he felt great about subverting Catholic teachings, and that is the crux of the matter.

That’s not what he said. He said “subverting the Catholic Church’s agenda on homosexuality”.

Agendas aren’t values.

Mince words however you want, he did say he has been purposely subverting Catholic teachings. The Catholic Church has not embraced the doctrines of LGBTQ, so he is working against the Catholic Church. If he doesn’t agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school.

What specifically are the Catholic Church "teachings" on homosexuality?

And "teachings" is still different than "agenda". Teachings may support an agenda but they are different things.

You can Google that yourself if you need to educate yourself further. The final point of this thread is: If an educator does not agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school. There are plenty of public Moco schools or woke private schools that will embrace him with open arms.

Which catholic teachings? We are all required to go to weekly mass, if we have a teacher come in and share that they spent their weekend not attending mass should they be out?

NP. Of course not. However, if the teacher came in and told the students NOT to go to Mass, the teacher should definitely be out. That would be subverting Catholic teachings. See the difference?

What about the health teachers discussing birth control and not sticking with an abstinence only model?

Our Catholic school didn't discuss birth control in my daughter's middle school. They used a book called "Theology of the Body" as the centerpiece of their sex ed curriculum.

Also the same with SR’s middle school. SR is probably more progressive than most other Catholic schools, and it does not teach about birth control. If parents want to teach those things to their daughters, they do it at home. Which is how it should be.

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Anonymous wrote:As a current SR parent, I am absolutely disgusted by this entire thread, and even more disgusted that it hasn’t been shut down. The fact that there are over 200 posts about 1 teacher - a human being - who isn’t here to defend himself, and people can just freely shame, defend, or generally talk about behind a computer screen without all the facts is just gross to me. It’s no wonder our kids are struggling in so many ways - we as parents set the example and it starts with us. Be better.

Fair point. I jumped in to offer support to the school and to him, but now see it wasn’t helpful at all.

I did the same. I thought that defending an educator who has been nothing but supportive to my daughters for years was the right thing to do but I see how this just gives more fuel to his critics. If my girls weren’t already in high school I’d be looking for a new school, I’ve learned a lot about my fellow SR parents and am disgusted.

I don’t understand, if you don’t believe in Catholic values, why did you send your daughters to a Catholic school all these years? SR is as a foundation, a Catholic school. If you support a teacher who had been trying to subvert Catholic values at a Catholic school, then I would say, you, like him, shouldn’t be at a Catholic school.

I don’t believe he’s been subverting Catholic values, I think he said one stupid thing that has been taken out of context. I am a Catholic who has read all of the papal Enciclicals around sexuality and he is no more out of line with catholic doctrine than any teacher who has used artificial birth control. Is anyone going after them? My family has been in Catholic schools for generations, admittedly my grandparents generation were much more devout with daily mass as part of their practice. It’s really odd to see all of these families come to my Catholic school, many of whom aren’t Catholic just MAGA conservatives, and suddenly they’re the Catholic police.

He said he feels great about subverted Catholic values. How much worse could it be? Even if he did not subvert the Catholic teachings in that act, he said he felt great about subverting Catholic teachings, and that is the crux of the matter.

That’s not what he said. He said “subverting the Catholic Church’s agenda on homosexuality”.

Agendas aren’t values.

Mince words however you want, he did say he has been purposely subverting Catholic teachings. The Catholic Church has not embraced the doctrines of LGBTQ, so he is working against the Catholic Church. If he doesn’t agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school.

What specifically are the Catholic Church "teachings" on homosexuality?

And "teachings" is still different than "agenda". Teachings may support an agenda but they are different things.

You can Google that yourself if you need to educate yourself further. The final point of this thread is: If an educator does not agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school. There are plenty of public Moco schools or woke private schools that will embrace him with open arms.

Which catholic teachings? We are all required to go to weekly mass, if we have a teacher come in and share that they spent their weekend not attending mass should they be out?

Actually, this is not an issue of a teacher's particular behavior. Of course there are many non-Catholic teachers that do not attend weekly mass. There are also teachers that engage in other sinful acts on a daily basis. As long as they don't bring those concepts into the classroom and imply that it is fine to engage in those behaviors, there would not be an issue. That dean was gay. Assuming he acted on his sexual preferences, he would be sinning. That wasn't the issue here. It was him admitting that he enjoyed subverting Catholic doctrine in the classroom by helping to affirm students' gender or sexual identities.

No, just to subvert the agenda of certain Catholics who are anti-LBTBQ.

Agenda, teachings, doctrine -- these are all synonyms. And he specifically said "Catholic Church," not Catholics in general. Nice try though.

No. They may teach the doctrine, but an agenda is a set of objectives created by modern men.

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Anonymous wrote:As a current SR parent, I am absolutely disgusted by this entire thread, and even more disgusted that it hasn’t been shut down. The fact that there are over 200 posts about 1 teacher - a human being - who isn’t here to defend himself, and people can just freely shame, defend, or generally talk about behind a computer screen without all the facts is just gross to me. It’s no wonder our kids are struggling in so many ways - we as parents set the example and it starts with us. Be better.

Fair point. I jumped in to offer support to the school and to him, but now see it wasn’t helpful at all.

I did the same. I thought that defending an educator who has been nothing but supportive to my daughters for years was the right thing to do but I see how this just gives more fuel to his critics. If my girls weren’t already in high school I’d be looking for a new school, I’ve learned a lot about my fellow SR parents and am disgusted.

I don’t understand, if you don’t believe in Catholic values, why did you send your daughters to a Catholic school all these years? SR is as a foundation, a Catholic school. If you support a teacher who had been trying to subvert Catholic values at a Catholic school, then I would say, you, like him, shouldn’t be at a Catholic school.

I don’t believe he’s been subverting Catholic values, I think he said one stupid thing that has been taken out of context. I am a Catholic who has read all of the papal Enciclicals around sexuality and he is no more out of line with catholic doctrine than any teacher who has used artificial birth control. Is anyone going after them? My family has been in Catholic schools for generations, admittedly my grandparents generation were much more devout with daily mass as part of their practice. It’s really odd to see all of these families come to my Catholic school, many of whom aren’t Catholic just MAGA conservatives, and suddenly they’re the Catholic police.

He said he feels great about subverted Catholic values. How much worse could it be? Even if he did not subvert the Catholic teachings in that act, he said he felt great about subverting Catholic teachings, and that is the crux of the matter.

That’s not what he said. He said “subverting the Catholic Church’s agenda on homosexuality”.

Agendas aren’t values.

Mince words however you want, he did say he has been purposely subverting Catholic teachings. The Catholic Church has not embraced the doctrines of LGBTQ, so he is working against the Catholic Church. If he doesn’t agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school.

What specifically are the Catholic Church "teachings" on homosexuality?

And "teachings" is still different than "agenda". Teachings may support an agenda but they are different things.

You can Google that yourself if you need to educate yourself further. The final point of this thread is: If an educator does not agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school. There are plenty of public Moco schools or woke private schools that will embrace him with open arms.

No - because then we would have no educators.

Interesting how some people are so "concerned" about "Catholic teachings" only when it comes to LGBTQ issues...very telling.

So you are implying that it is ok for a teacher to pass out condoms in a classroom of a Catholic school, because most Catholic teachers have used them? Got it.

False equivalence. He wasn't encouraging students to become homosexual.

He was "affirming" their identities, while initially keeping parents out of the loop. He said it on the tape.

OK - that's not trying to change the girls, just support them.

SR strongly states in their contract with parents that the school and parents are PARTNERS in the education of our daughters. The school will not overstep familial boundaries in each family’s personal values. Teachers who hide information about children from their parents are not being partners in the education of their children. This goes against the school’s contract with parents.

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Anonymous wrote:As a current SR parent, I am absolutely disgusted by this entire thread, and even more disgusted that it hasn’t been shut down. The fact that there are over 200 posts about 1 teacher - a human being - who isn’t here to defend himself, and people can just freely shame, defend, or generally talk about behind a computer screen without all the facts is just gross to me. It’s no wonder our kids are struggling in so many ways - we as parents set the example and it starts with us. Be better.

Fair point. I jumped in to offer support to the school and to him, but now see it wasn’t helpful at all.

I did the same. I thought that defending an educator who has been nothing but supportive to my daughters for years was the right thing to do but I see how this just gives more fuel to his critics. If my girls weren’t already in high school I’d be looking for a new school, I’ve learned a lot about my fellow SR parents and am disgusted.

I don’t understand, if you don’t believe in Catholic values, why did you send your daughters to a Catholic school all these years? SR is as a foundation, a Catholic school. If you support a teacher who had been trying to subvert Catholic values at a Catholic school, then I would say, you, like him, shouldn’t be at a Catholic school.

I don’t believe he’s been subverting Catholic values, I think he said one stupid thing that has been taken out of context. I am a Catholic who has read all of the papal Enciclicals around sexuality and he is no more out of line with catholic doctrine than any teacher who has used artificial birth control. Is anyone going after them? My family has been in Catholic schools for generations, admittedly my grandparents generation were much more devout with daily mass as part of their practice. It’s really odd to see all of these families come to my Catholic school, many of whom aren’t Catholic just MAGA conservatives, and suddenly they’re the Catholic police.

He said he feels great about subverted Catholic values. How much worse could it be? Even if he did not subvert the Catholic teachings in that act, he said he felt great about subverting Catholic teachings, and that is the crux of the matter.

That’s not what he said. He said “subverting the Catholic Church’s agenda on homosexuality”.

Agendas aren’t values.

Mince words however you want, he did say he has been purposely subverting Catholic teachings. The Catholic Church has not embraced the doctrines of LGBTQ, so he is working against the Catholic Church. If he doesn’t agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school.

What specifically are the Catholic Church "teachings" on homosexuality?

And "teachings" is still different than "agenda". Teachings may support an agenda but they are different things.

You can Google that yourself if you need to educate yourself further. The final point of this thread is: If an educator does not agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school. There are plenty of public Moco schools or woke private schools that will embrace him with open arms.

No - because then we would have no educators.

Interesting how some people are so "concerned" about "Catholic teachings" only when it comes to LGBTQ issues...very telling.

So you are implying that it is ok for a teacher to pass out condoms in a classroom of a Catholic school, because most Catholic teachers have used them? Got it.

False equivalence. He wasn't encouraging students to become homosexual.

He was "affirming" their identities, while initially keeping parents out of the loop. He said it on the tape.

OK - that's not trying to change the girls, just support them.

SR strongly states in their contract with parents that the school and parents are PARTNERS in the education of our daughters. The school will not overstep familial boundaries in each family’s personal values. Teachers who hide information about children from their parents are not being partners in the education of their children. This goes against the school’s contract with parents.

Except, this wasn't about the girls' education. It was emotional support for girls who couldn't find support at home.

Teachers should support girls, every time.

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Anonymous wrote:As a current SR parent, I am absolutely disgusted by this entire thread, and even more disgusted that it hasn’t been shut down. The fact that there are over 200 posts about 1 teacher - a human being - who isn’t here to defend himself, and people can just freely shame, defend, or generally talk about behind a computer screen without all the facts is just gross to me. It’s no wonder our kids are struggling in so many ways - we as parents set the example and it starts with us. Be better.

Fair point. I jumped in to offer support to the school and to him, but now see it wasn’t helpful at all.

I did the same. I thought that defending an educator who has been nothing but supportive to my daughters for years was the right thing to do but I see how this just gives more fuel to his critics. If my girls weren’t already in high school I’d be looking for a new school, I’ve learned a lot about my fellow SR parents and am disgusted.

I don’t understand, if you don’t believe in Catholic values, why did you send your daughters to a Catholic school all these years? SR is as a foundation, a Catholic school. If you support a teacher who had been trying to subvert Catholic values at a Catholic school, then I would say, you, like him, shouldn’t be at a Catholic school.

I don’t believe he’s been subverting Catholic values, I think he said one stupid thing that has been taken out of context. I am a Catholic who has read all of the papal Enciclicals around sexuality and he is no more out of line with catholic doctrine than any teacher who has used artificial birth control. Is anyone going after them? My family has been in Catholic schools for generations, admittedly my grandparents generation were much more devout with daily mass as part of their practice. It’s really odd to see all of these families come to my Catholic school, many of whom aren’t Catholic just MAGA conservatives, and suddenly they’re the Catholic police.

He said he feels great about subverted Catholic values. How much worse could it be? Even if he did not subvert the Catholic teachings in that act, he said he felt great about subverting Catholic teachings, and that is the crux of the matter.

That’s not what he said. He said “subverting the Catholic Church’s agenda on homosexuality”.

Agendas aren’t values.

Mince words however you want, he did say he has been purposely subverting Catholic teachings. The Catholic Church has not embraced the doctrines of LGBTQ, so he is working against the Catholic Church. If he doesn’t agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school.

What specifically are the Catholic Church "teachings" on homosexuality?

And "teachings" is still different than "agenda". Teachings may support an agenda but they are different things.

You can Google that yourself if you need to educate yourself further. The final point of this thread is: If an educator does not agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school. There are plenty of public Moco schools or woke private schools that will embrace him with open arms.

No - because then we would have no educators.

Interesting how some people are so "concerned" about "Catholic teachings" only when it comes to LGBTQ issues...very telling.

So you are implying that it is ok for a teacher to pass out condoms in a classroom of a Catholic school, because most Catholic teachers have used them? Got it.

False equivalence. He wasn't encouraging students to become homosexual.

He was "affirming" their identities, while initially keeping parents out of the loop. He said it on the tape.

OK - that's not trying to change the girls, just support them.

SR strongly states in their contract with parents that the school and parents are PARTNERS in the education of our daughters. The school will not overstep familial boundaries in each family’s personal values. Teachers who hide information about children from their parents are not being partners in the education of their children. This goes against the school’s contract with parents.

Except, this wasn't about the girls' education. It was emotional support for girls who couldn't find support at home.

Teachers should support girls, every time.

But this teacher stated that part of his subversion of the Catholic teaching was in keeping identity information about the students from their parents. His only purview as an educator is to teach school subjects, not taking on parents’ roles in personal areas or sexual identity. Furthermore, he went against the foundational teachings of the school, the basis for which most parents chose this school. His overstepped his boundary and does not belong at this school.

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Anonymous wrote:As a current SR parent, I am absolutely disgusted by this entire thread, and even more disgusted that it hasn’t been shut down. The fact that there are over 200 posts about 1 teacher - a human being - who isn’t here to defend himself, and people can just freely shame, defend, or generally talk about behind a computer screen without all the facts is just gross to me. It’s no wonder our kids are struggling in so many ways - we as parents set the example and it starts with us. Be better.

Fair point. I jumped in to offer support to the school and to him, but now see it wasn’t helpful at all.

I did the same. I thought that defending an educator who has been nothing but supportive to my daughters for years was the right thing to do but I see how this just gives more fuel to his critics. If my girls weren’t already in high school I’d be looking for a new school, I’ve learned a lot about my fellow SR parents and am disgusted.

I don’t understand, if you don’t believe in Catholic values, why did you send your daughters to a Catholic school all these years? SR is as a foundation, a Catholic school. If you support a teacher who had been trying to subvert Catholic values at a Catholic school, then I would say, you, like him, shouldn’t be at a Catholic school.

I don’t believe he’s been subverting Catholic values, I think he said one stupid thing that has been taken out of context. I am a Catholic who has read all of the papal Enciclicals around sexuality and he is no more out of line with catholic doctrine than any teacher who has used artificial birth control. Is anyone going after them? My family has been in Catholic schools for generations, admittedly my grandparents generation were much more devout with daily mass as part of their practice. It’s really odd to see all of these families come to my Catholic school, many of whom aren’t Catholic just MAGA conservatives, and suddenly they’re the Catholic police.

He said he feels great about subverted Catholic values. How much worse could it be? Even if he did not subvert the Catholic teachings in that act, he said he felt great about subverting Catholic teachings, and that is the crux of the matter.

That’s not what he said. He said “subverting the Catholic Church’s agenda on homosexuality”.

Agendas aren’t values.

Mince words however you want, he did say he has been purposely subverting Catholic teachings. The Catholic Church has not embraced the doctrines of LGBTQ, so he is working against the Catholic Church. If he doesn’t agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school.

What specifically are the Catholic Church "teachings" on homosexuality?

And "teachings" is still different than "agenda". Teachings may support an agenda but they are different things.

You can Google that yourself if you need to educate yourself further. The final point of this thread is: If an educator does not agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school. There are plenty of public Moco schools or woke private schools that will embrace him with open arms.

No - because then we would have no educators.

Interesting how some people are so "concerned" about "Catholic teachings" only when it comes to LGBTQ issues...very telling.

So you are implying that it is ok for a teacher to pass out condoms in a classroom of a Catholic school, because most Catholic teachers have used them? Got it.

False equivalence. He wasn't encouraging students to become homosexual.

He was "affirming" their identities, while initially keeping parents out of the loop. He said it on the tape.

OK - that's not trying to change the girls, just support them.

SR strongly states in their contract with parents that the school and parents are PARTNERS in the education of our daughters. The school will not overstep familial boundaries in each family’s personal values. Teachers who hide information about children from their parents are not being partners in the education of their children. This goes against the school’s contract with parents.

Except, this wasn't about the girls' education. It was emotional support for girls who couldn't find support at home.

Teachers should support girls, every time.

Teacher overstepped his role. If anything, his interference likely confused the poor girls even more. Teachers and schools should stay out of these issues altogether unless parents are involved and want the school involved.

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Anonymous wrote:As a current SR parent, I am absolutely disgusted by this entire thread, and even more disgusted that it hasn’t been shut down. The fact that there are over 200 posts about 1 teacher - a human being - who isn’t here to defend himself, and people can just freely shame, defend, or generally talk about behind a computer screen without all the facts is just gross to me. It’s no wonder our kids are struggling in so many ways - we as parents set the example and it starts with us. Be better.

Fair point. I jumped in to offer support to the school and to him, but now see it wasn’t helpful at all.

I did the same. I thought that defending an educator who has been nothing but supportive to my daughters for years was the right thing to do but I see how this just gives more fuel to his critics. If my girls weren’t already in high school I’d be looking for a new school, I’ve learned a lot about my fellow SR parents and am disgusted.

I don’t understand, if you don’t believe in Catholic values, why did you send your daughters to a Catholic school all these years? SR is as a foundation, a Catholic school. If you support a teacher who had been trying to subvert Catholic values at a Catholic school, then I would say, you, like him, shouldn’t be at a Catholic school.

I don’t believe he’s been subverting Catholic values, I think he said one stupid thing that has been taken out of context. I am a Catholic who has read all of the papal Enciclicals around sexuality and he is no more out of line with catholic doctrine than any teacher who has used artificial birth control. Is anyone going after them? My family has been in Catholic schools for generations, admittedly my grandparents generation were much more devout with daily mass as part of their practice. It’s really odd to see all of these families come to my Catholic school, many of whom aren’t Catholic just MAGA conservatives, and suddenly they’re the Catholic police.

He said he feels great about subverted Catholic values. How much worse could it be? Even if he did not subvert the Catholic teachings in that act, he said he felt great about subverting Catholic teachings, and that is the crux of the matter.

That’s not what he said. He said “subverting the Catholic Church’s agenda on homosexuality”.

Agendas aren’t values.

Mince words however you want, he did say he has been purposely subverting Catholic teachings. The Catholic Church has not embraced the doctrines of LGBTQ, so he is working against the Catholic Church. If he doesn’t agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school.

What specifically are the Catholic Church "teachings" on homosexuality?

And "teachings" is still different than "agenda". Teachings may support an agenda but they are different things.

You can Google that yourself if you need to educate yourself further. The final point of this thread is: If an educator does not agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school. There are plenty of public Moco schools or woke private schools that will embrace him with open arms.

No - because then we would have no educators.

Interesting how some people are so "concerned" about "Catholic teachings" only when it comes to LGBTQ issues...very telling.

So you are implying that it is ok for a teacher to pass out condoms in a classroom of a Catholic school, because most Catholic teachers have used them? Got it.

False equivalence. He wasn't encouraging students to become homosexual.

He was "affirming" their identities, while initially keeping parents out of the loop. He said it on the tape.

OK - that's not trying to change the girls, just support them.

SR strongly states in their contract with parents that the school and parents are PARTNERS in the education of our daughters. The school will not overstep familial boundaries in each family’s personal values. Teachers who hide information about children from their parents are not being partners in the education of their children. This goes against the school’s contract with parents.

Except, this wasn't about the girls' education. It was emotional support for girls who couldn't find support at home.

Teachers should support girls, every time.

How would he (or you) know that the girls wouldn’t be supported by their parents at home if he refused to let parents know what’s going on? Seems he he has a savior-mentality and thinks he knows better than the unbeknownst parents.

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Anonymous wrote:As a current SR parent, I am absolutely disgusted by this entire thread, and even more disgusted that it hasn’t been shut down. The fact that there are over 200 posts about 1 teacher - a human being - who isn’t here to defend himself, and people can just freely shame, defend, or generally talk about behind a computer screen without all the facts is just gross to me. It’s no wonder our kids are struggling in so many ways - we as parents set the example and it starts with us. Be better.

Fair point. I jumped in to offer support to the school and to him, but now see it wasn’t helpful at all.

I did the same. I thought that defending an educator who has been nothing but supportive to my daughters for years was the right thing to do but I see how this just gives more fuel to his critics. If my girls weren’t already in high school I’d be looking for a new school, I’ve learned a lot about my fellow SR parents and am disgusted.

I don’t understand, if you don’t believe in Catholic values, why did you send your daughters to a Catholic school all these years? SR is as a foundation, a Catholic school. If you support a teacher who had been trying to subvert Catholic values at a Catholic school, then I would say, you, like him, shouldn’t be at a Catholic school.

I don’t believe he’s been subverting Catholic values, I think he said one stupid thing that has been taken out of context. I am a Catholic who has read all of the papal Enciclicals around sexuality and he is no more out of line with catholic doctrine than any teacher who has used artificial birth control. Is anyone going after them? My family has been in Catholic schools for generations, admittedly my grandparents generation were much more devout with daily mass as part of their practice. It’s really odd to see all of these families come to my Catholic school, many of whom aren’t Catholic just MAGA conservatives, and suddenly they’re the Catholic police.

He said he feels great about subverted Catholic values. How much worse could it be? Even if he did not subvert the Catholic teachings in that act, he said he felt great about subverting Catholic teachings, and that is the crux of the matter.

That’s not what he said. He said “subverting the Catholic Church’s agenda on homosexuality”.

Agendas aren’t values.

Mince words however you want, he did say he has been purposely subverting Catholic teachings. The Catholic Church has not embraced the doctrines of LGBTQ, so he is working against the Catholic Church. If he doesn’t agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school.

What specifically are the Catholic Church "teachings" on homosexuality?

And "teachings" is still different than "agenda". Teachings may support an agenda but they are different things.

You can Google that yourself if you need to educate yourself further. The final point of this thread is: If an educator does not agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school. There are plenty of public Moco schools or woke private schools that will embrace him with open arms.

No - because then we would have no educators.

Interesting how some people are so "concerned" about "Catholic teachings" only when it comes to LGBTQ issues...very telling.

So you are implying that it is ok for a teacher to pass out condoms in a classroom of a Catholic school, because most Catholic teachers have used them? Got it.

False equivalence. He wasn't encouraging students to become homosexual.

He was "affirming" their identities, while initially keeping parents out of the loop. He said it on the tape.

OK - that's not trying to change the girls, just support them.

SR strongly states in their contract with parents that the school and parents are PARTNERS in the education of our daughters. The school will not overstep familial boundaries in each family’s personal values. Teachers who hide information about children from their parents are not being partners in the education of their children. This goes against the school’s contract with parents.

Except, this wasn't about the girls' education. It was emotional support for girls who couldn't find support at home.

Teachers should support girls, every time.

How would he (or you) know that the girls wouldn’t be supported by their parents at home if he refused to let parents know what’s going on? Seems he he has a savior-mentality and thinks he knows better than the unbeknownst parents.

He didn't say he refused to let parents know. We don't have the full conversation, but it sounds like he was talking about supporting girls who may not be getting support at home yet.

"For some of these parents, we affirm their identity before they were able to, and them being on the journey with us and feeling support and getting to a place where they can affirm it, feels like I’m subverting the Catholic Church’s agenda on homosexuality, and that feels great."

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Anonymous wrote:As a current SR parent, I am absolutely disgusted by this entire thread, and even more disgusted that it hasn’t been shut down. The fact that there are over 200 posts about 1 teacher - a human being - who isn’t here to defend himself, and people can just freely shame, defend, or generally talk about behind a computer screen without all the facts is just gross to me. It’s no wonder our kids are struggling in so many ways - we as parents set the example and it starts with us. Be better.

Fair point. I jumped in to offer support to the school and to him, but now see it wasn’t helpful at all.

I did the same. I thought that defending an educator who has been nothing but supportive to my daughters for years was the right thing to do but I see how this just gives more fuel to his critics. If my girls weren’t already in high school I’d be looking for a new school, I’ve learned a lot about my fellow SR parents and am disgusted.

I don’t understand, if you don’t believe in Catholic values, why did you send your daughters to a Catholic school all these years? SR is as a foundation, a Catholic school. If you support a teacher who had been trying to subvert Catholic values at a Catholic school, then I would say, you, like him, shouldn’t be at a Catholic school.

I don’t believe he’s been subverting Catholic values, I think he said one stupid thing that has been taken out of context. I am a Catholic who has read all of the papal Enciclicals around sexuality and he is no more out of line with catholic doctrine than any teacher who has used artificial birth control. Is anyone going after them? My family has been in Catholic schools for generations, admittedly my grandparents generation were much more devout with daily mass as part of their practice. It’s really odd to see all of these families come to my Catholic school, many of whom aren’t Catholic just MAGA conservatives, and suddenly they’re the Catholic police.

He said he feels great about subverted Catholic values. How much worse could it be? Even if he did not subvert the Catholic teachings in that act, he said he felt great about subverting Catholic teachings, and that is the crux of the matter.

That’s not what he said. He said “subverting the Catholic Church’s agenda on homosexuality”.

Agendas aren’t values.

Mince words however you want, he did say he has been purposely subverting Catholic teachings. The Catholic Church has not embraced the doctrines of LGBTQ, so he is working against the Catholic Church. If he doesn’t agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school.

What specifically are the Catholic Church "teachings" on homosexuality?

And "teachings" is still different than "agenda". Teachings may support an agenda but they are different things.

You can Google that yourself if you need to educate yourself further. The final point of this thread is: If an educator does not agree with or respect Catholic teachings, he shouldn’t be teaching at a Catholic school. There are plenty of public Moco schools or woke private schools that will embrace him with open arms.

No - because then we would have no educators.

Interesting how some people are so "concerned" about "Catholic teachings" only when it comes to LGBTQ issues...very telling.

So you are implying that it is ok for a teacher to pass out condoms in a classroom of a Catholic school, because most Catholic teachers have used them? Got it.

False equivalence. He wasn't encouraging students to become homosexual.

He was "affirming" their identities, while initially keeping parents out of the loop. He said it on the tape.

OK - that's not trying to change the girls, just support them.

SR strongly states in their contract with parents that the school and parents are PARTNERS in the education of our daughters. The school will not overstep familial boundaries in each family’s personal values. Teachers who hide information about children from their parents are not being partners in the education of their children. This goes against the school’s contract with parents.

Except, this wasn't about the girls' education. It was emotional support for girls who couldn't find support at home.

Teachers should support girls, every time.

Teacher overstepped his role. If anything, his interference likely confused the poor girls even more. Teachers and schools should stay out of these issues altogether unless parents are involved and want the school involved.

What interference? He's just supporting the girls until their parents "are able to".