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Anonymous wrote:To answer several persistent questions...

Honors>>>>Scholars>>other stuff

Money comes later (Mid-late Feb?) but don't expect a lot in-state, if anything. And Honors is *not* a guarantee of money though probably better chance but some non Honors admits get money too. BK, is, (I think) from Honors admits only however.

Honors is worthwhile if just for the housing and you may find it useful generally too. UH and Aces have the best housing and UH housing (PC and JW) is more convenient than ACES (PF Hall). There are other perfectly fine dorms too if you aren't Honors or are in other Honors programs. UH is easily the biggest Honors program, its the default, least specialized) but best housing and most class options.

There are also Honors versions of some key classes available only to Honors kids. Calculus, for example, and at least in that, all class hours are with the instructor in smaller classes. No discussion section with a TA, no huge lecture hall. Note, many TAs are fantastic, not trying to be critical.

Other programs (Scholars, etc) can be good opportunities but consider the cost (in time/effort): benefit analysis. Consider it even with Honors. Its 15 Credits in Honors. Is the payoff worth it? With the housing, yes, imo. Absent that...maybe.

FC is no big deal. In fact, kids I know like it. Don't view it as a failure. Look at some of the kids who didn't get in...its just a way for them to take more of the kids they should have taken in the first place...

Comp Sci..it will be much harder to declare CS for anyone not admitted directly. Not impossible but I would say do not count on it. Up til now, changing to CS has been fairly easy. Not easy anymore. Have a plan B or go somewhere else.

Thanks for the pertinent info. Does Honors guarantee housing for 4 yrs?

No most of the programs are 2 years. Varies by program. Info on website

That is inaccurate. Even if a program is 2 years, honors students are guaranteed 4 years of housing on campus. However, I don’t know any UMD student that stayed on campus 4 years. They all move off campus.

I made the mistake of checking a UMD Facebook group today. It wasn't even about housing. Except it was. Housing was all it was. Grim, tiny rooms in cheap apartment complexes in Greenbelt. Parking lots and highways. 1,000 a month to live with four roommates like you're in an exurban dystopia. What fun.

Huh? Thousands of student live within a half mile of campus. Something like 10 apartment complexes within walking distance.

Grim tiny rooms next to a highway in College Park? Where do I sign?

Maybe it’s time for your snowflake to live their own life?

Y'all are so defensive about a school no one else in the country cares about. I just think it's sad to see so many highly intelligent kids with so much potential pigeonholed into such narrow boxes in such an ugly provincial place.

Geez. You sound like you have a chip on your shoulder. No one gives a crap about what you think.

Not at all, lol. College Park was never on our list because it's an ugly, provincial place. It honestly just makes me sad, with so many excellent colleges out there that so many of you have such a small window for "success" for your kids. You only want them to have one of two or three majors, you only want them to stay in this area, you only want them to work for a limited number of government-subsidized local companies or agencies.

Your kids have so much potential, and this is all you can see.

You have so much entitlement. For some of us instate is THE ONLY option.

Really? Because with merit aid private colleges are actually cheaper for us. I don't think we can afford to send DC to instate--to either UMBC or St Mary's.

Lower than $10k a year tuition?

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Amend that. UMD CP is technically 11,200 tuition, total coa with room and board 30k.

Baltimore is 12k tuition to total about the same.

St Marys, same, but they add a 3k "fee" on top of their tuition, making it the highest of the bunch.

Yes, private colleges in the top 100 are offering merit aid to students that will at least match, if not best, those prices.

Now, if you need an option where your student has to live at home, I'm sure UMCP seems like a better deal.

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FALSE. UMD is less than $10k tuition + $1,600 in fees.

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If Maryland public colleges were as cheap for instate as some other states, I would agree they'd offer excellent value, but they're not.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer several persistent questions...

Honors>>>>Scholars>>other stuff

Money comes later (Mid-late Feb?) but don't expect a lot in-state, if anything. And Honors is *not* a guarantee of money though probably better chance but some non Honors admits get money too. BK, is, (I think) from Honors admits only however.

Honors is worthwhile if just for the housing and you may find it useful generally too. UH and Aces have the best housing and UH housing (PC and JW) is more convenient than ACES (PF Hall). There are other perfectly fine dorms too if you aren't Honors or are in other Honors programs. UH is easily the biggest Honors program, its the default, least specialized) but best housing and most class options.

There are also Honors versions of some key classes available only to Honors kids. Calculus, for example, and at least in that, all class hours are with the instructor in smaller classes. No discussion section with a TA, no huge lecture hall. Note, many TAs are fantastic, not trying to be critical.

Other programs (Scholars, etc) can be good opportunities but consider the cost (in time/effort): benefit analysis. Consider it even with Honors. Its 15 Credits in Honors. Is the payoff worth it? With the housing, yes, imo. Absent that...maybe.

FC is no big deal. In fact, kids I know like it. Don't view it as a failure. Look at some of the kids who didn't get in...its just a way for them to take more of the kids they should have taken in the first place...

Comp Sci..it will be much harder to declare CS for anyone not admitted directly. Not impossible but I would say do not count on it. Up til now, changing to CS has been fairly easy. Not easy anymore. Have a plan B or go somewhere else.

Thanks for the pertinent info. Does Honors guarantee housing for 4 yrs?

No most of the programs are 2 years. Varies by program. Info on website

That is inaccurate. Even if a program is 2 years, honors students are guaranteed 4 years of housing on campus. However, I don’t know any UMD student that stayed on campus 4 years. They all move off campus.

I made the mistake of checking a UMD Facebook group today. It wasn't even about housing. Except it was. Housing was all it was. Grim, tiny rooms in cheap apartment complexes in Greenbelt. Parking lots and highways. 1,000 a month to live with four roommates like you're in an exurban dystopia. What fun.

Huh? Thousands of student live within a half mile of campus. Something like 10 apartment complexes within walking distance.

Grim tiny rooms next to a highway in College Park? Where do I sign?

Maybe it’s time for your snowflake to live their own life?

Y'all are so defensive about a school no one else in the country cares about. I just think it's sad to see so many highly intelligent kids with so much potential pigeonholed into such narrow boxes in such an ugly provincial place.

Geez. You sound like you have a chip on your shoulder. No one gives a crap about what you think.

Not at all, lol. College Park was never on our list because it's an ugly, provincial place. It honestly just makes me sad, with so many excellent colleges out there that so many of you have such a small window for "success" for your kids. You only want them to have one of two or three majors, you only want them to stay in this area, you only want them to work for a limited number of government-subsidized local companies or agencies.

Your kids have so much potential, and this is all you can see.

You have so much entitlement. For some of us instate is THE ONLY option.

Really? Because with merit aid private colleges are actually cheaper for us. I don't think we can afford to send DC to instate--to either UMBC or St Mary's.

Lower than $10k a year tuition?

About 10k tuition. Plus room and board. UMD is 15k tuition, though.

It’s a little over $11k per the website.

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https://admissions.umd.edu/tuition/cost-of-attendance

Total cost is there, a little over 30k (estimated.)

PP not only wants their kid to stay close-in for the rest of their life, but also to live at home.

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Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

Can you list a few most rigorous APs taken?

The Blair HS STEM magnet program classes are generally described as higher level than AP. In addition to all the magnet courses, DS took a couple of AP history classes (I believe Government and Modern World, not U.S. History as it was advised that students not take that as a freshman). He took honors English to balance things out in his schedule, which is what is recommended for magnet students - take AP History OR English - some, of course, took both. Believe it or not. I'm not answering anymore questions on this thread. Thanks for the kind words from some of the folks here. Best of luck to your students.

Sorry for the rejection but that explains it. There were many other UMD applicants from Blair who took much more rigorous AP courses & exams including AP Calc BC, AP physics C, AP English lit, AP US History, AP Chemistry, etc., while your student applied with just an SAT score and high weighted GPA that was built with less rigor honors courses.

Not PP but you don’t understand. This kid will have had all the rigorous magnet courses which go beyond AP and May have taken AP exams too (without taking the course, like any Blair magnet student - none of them take the course for AP calc, for example). uMD is very familiar with this program and considers it appropriately - as beyond AP. There is no AP quantum physics, for example. Or marine biology,

Other Blair students got accepted by demonstrating rigor with challenging AP exams, in addition to having fancy courses on transcript. Fancy names like quantum, neuro, etc.. doesnt mean those courses are not easy As with grade bump. UMD knows this.

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Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

Can you list a few most rigorous APs taken?

The Blair HS STEM magnet program classes are generally described as higher level than AP. In addition to all the magnet courses, DS took a couple of AP history classes (I believe Government and Modern World, not U.S. History as it was advised that students not take that as a freshman). He took honors English to balance things out in his schedule, which is what is recommended for magnet students - take AP History OR English - some, of course, took both. Believe it or not. I'm not answering anymore questions on this thread. Thanks for the kind words from some of the folks here. Best of luck to your students.

Sorry for the rejection but that explains it. There were many other UMD applicants from Blair who took much more rigorous AP courses & exams including AP Calc BC, AP physics C, AP English lit, AP US History, AP Chemistry, etc., while your student applied with just an SAT score and high weighted GPA that was built with less rigor honors courses.

Not PP but you don’t understand. This kid will have had all the rigorous magnet courses which go beyond AP and May have taken AP exams too (without taking the course, like any Blair magnet student - none of them take the course for AP calc, for example). uMD is very familiar with this program and considers it appropriately - as beyond AP. There is no AP quantum physics, for example. Or marine biology,

Other Blair students got accepted by demonstrating rigor with challenging AP exams, in addition to having fancy courses on transcript. Fancy names like quantum, neuro, etc.. doesnt mean those courses are not easy As with grade bump. UMD knows this.

You don’t know anything about the Blair magnet! There literally aren’t AP classes in magnet subjects. Yet many colleges provide credit for those “fancy names” because they are familiar with the rigor of the program and because they know they go beyond AP. Blair magnet kids take AP exams without following the AP curriculum in STEM subjects but the rigor of their class also go way beyond any available AP class. Colleges and esp UMD know this. No one familiar with the program would reference an easy A with a grade bump. That’s ludicrous. I bet you are one of those people saying kids should take AP precalculus too!

And I’m not the PP - but I have a Blair magnet sophomore.

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Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

Can you list a few most rigorous APs taken?

The Blair HS STEM magnet program classes are generally described as higher level than AP. In addition to all the magnet courses, DS took a couple of AP history classes (I believe Government and Modern World, not U.S. History as it was advised that students not take that as a freshman). He took honors English to balance things out in his schedule, which is what is recommended for magnet students - take AP History OR English - some, of course, took both. Believe it or not. I'm not answering anymore questions on this thread. Thanks for the kind words from some of the folks here. Best of luck to your students.

Sorry for the rejection but that explains it. There were many other UMD applicants from Blair who took much more rigorous AP courses & exams including AP Calc BC, AP physics C, AP English lit, AP US History, AP Chemistry, etc., while your student applied with just an SAT score and high weighted GPA that was built with less rigor honors courses.

Not PP but you don’t understand. This kid will have had all the rigorous magnet courses which go beyond AP and May have taken AP exams too (without taking the course, like any Blair magnet student - none of them take the course for AP calc, for example). uMD is very familiar with this program and considers it appropriately - as beyond AP. There is no AP quantum physics, for example. Or marine biology,

Other Blair students got accepted by demonstrating rigor with challenging AP exams, in addition to having fancy courses on transcript. Fancy names like quantum, neuro, etc.. doesnt mean those courses are not easy As with grade bump. UMD knows this.

Yes, my kid was accepted to UMD but looking back I kind of wish they had self-studied and taken the AP exams for Bio and Chem, like many Blair classmates. Kid did take the Calc BC exam and many humanities/language APs. ECs were good but not amazing compared to many classmates. Child did apply to a number of reaches but we recognize schools can take only so many students from Blair. Nonetheless my child has loved it so much and has no regrets.

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Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

Can you list a few most rigorous APs taken?

The Blair HS STEM magnet program classes are generally described as higher level than AP. In addition to all the magnet courses, DS took a couple of AP history classes (I believe Government and Modern World, not U.S. History as it was advised that students not take that as a freshman). He took honors English to balance things out in his schedule, which is what is recommended for magnet students - take AP History OR English - some, of course, took both. Believe it or not. I'm not answering anymore questions on this thread. Thanks for the kind words from some of the folks here. Best of luck to your students.

Sorry for the rejection but that explains it. There were many other UMD applicants from Blair who took much more rigorous AP courses & exams including AP Calc BC, AP physics C, AP English lit, AP US History, AP Chemistry, etc., while your student applied with just an SAT score and high weighted GPA that was built with less rigor honors courses.

Not PP but you don’t understand. This kid will have had all the rigorous magnet courses which go beyond AP and May have taken AP exams too (without taking the course, like any Blair magnet student - none of them take the course for AP calc, for example). uMD is very familiar with this program and considers it appropriately - as beyond AP. There is no AP quantum physics, for example. Or marine biology,

Other Blair students got accepted by demonstrating rigor with challenging AP exams, in addition to having fancy courses on transcript. Fancy names like quantum, neuro, etc.. doesnt mean those courses are not easy As with grade bump. UMD knows this.

Yes, my kid was accepted to UMD but looking back I kind of wish they had self-studied and taken the AP exams for Bio and Chem, like many Blair classmates. Kid did take the Calc BC exam and many humanities/language APs. ECs were good but not amazing compared to many classmates. Child did apply to a number of reaches but we recognize schools can take only so many students from Blair. Nonetheless my child has loved it so much and has no regrets.

PP here, I should say I did not mean to endorse a PPs ridiculous easy A comment - just the fact that many Blair students take AP exams in science subjects even though the curricula don't align (and in fact go well beyond) the AP curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:Amend that. UMD CP is technically 11,200 tuition, total coa with room and board 30k.

Baltimore is 12k tuition to total about the same.

St Marys, same, but they add a 3k "fee" on top of their tuition, making it the highest of the bunch.

Yes, private colleges in the top 100 are offering merit aid to students that will at least match, if not best, those prices.

Now, if you need an option where your student has to live at home, I'm sure UMCP seems like a better deal.

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Anonymous wrote:Amend that. UMD CP is technically 11,200 tuition, total coa with room and board 30k.

Baltimore is 12k tuition to total about the same.

St Marys, same, but they add a 3k "fee" on top of their tuition, making it the highest of the bunch.

Yes, private colleges in the top 100 are offering merit aid to students that will at least match, if not best, those prices.

Now, if you need an option where your student has to live at home, I'm sure UMCP seems like a better deal.

UMD has about the lowest in state tuition in the Big 10. Lower in state than most are all surrounding states, i.e., VT, UDel, PennState, etc. PP is just trying to get people riled up.

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I'm not going to name them, but two of the schools on DC's acceptance list cut their tuition prices a few years back--an increasingly common practice for private schools to stay competitive.

They're good schools but If I named them, no doubt you'd tell me they aren't "good enough," but since you were the one who told Me to check my privilege about UMDCP (an option we didn't actually consider, although we did consider the other two in MD), I'd tell you to go where there's no sun shining.

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Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

This has to be bs, I'm sorry. I hereby id this poster as a troll.

(Caveat, troll says rejected from ENGR not Umd) Did troll get into L&S?

I don't know everything but every resident kid with these stats is admitted. Does this kid have a criminal record or some other black eye on the application?

Agree. The white male notation gave it away.

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Though, if not a troll, he wrote a hella offensive essay and his letters of recommendation were lukewarm at best and possibly cautionary.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to name them, but two of the schools on DC's acceptance list cut their tuition prices a few years back--an increasingly common practice for private schools to stay competitive.

They're good schools but If I named them, no doubt you'd tell me they aren't "good enough," but since you were the one who told Me to check my privilege about UMDCP (an option we didn't actually consider, although we did consider the other two in MD), I'd tell you to go where there's no sun shining.

Why do you care what anyone thinks about those schools?

Why not share the info to help similar families?