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Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

Can you list a few most rigorous APs taken?

The Blair HS STEM magnet program classes are generally described as higher level than AP. In addition to all the magnet courses, DS took a couple of AP history classes (I believe Government and Modern World, not U.S. History as it was advised that students not take that as a freshman). He took honors English to balance things out in his schedule, which is what is recommended for magnet students - take AP History OR English - some, of course, took both. Believe it or not. I'm not answering anymore questions on this thread. Thanks for the kind words from some of the folks here. Best of luck to your students.

Sorry for the rejection but that explains it. There were many other UMD applicants from Blair who took much more rigorous AP courses & exams including AP Calc BC, AP physics C, AP English lit, AP US History, AP Chemistry, etc., while your student applied with just an SAT score and high weighted GPA that was built with less rigor honors courses.

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Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

Can you list a few most rigorous APs taken?

Blair magnet isn’t an AP program. The most rigorous courses are more in depth than AP.

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Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

Can you list a few most rigorous APs taken?

The Blair HS STEM magnet program classes are generally described as higher level than AP. In addition to all the magnet courses, DS took a couple of AP history classes (I believe Government and Modern World, not U.S. History as it was advised that students not take that as a freshman). He took honors English to balance things out in his schedule, which is what is recommended for magnet students - take AP History OR English - some, of course, took both. Believe it or not. I'm not answering anymore questions on this thread. Thanks for the kind words from some of the folks here. Best of luck to your students.

Sorry for the rejection but that explains it. There were many other UMD applicants from Blair who took much more rigorous AP courses & exams including AP Calc BC, AP physics C, AP English lit, AP US History, AP Chemistry, etc., while your student applied with just an SAT score and high weighted GPA that was built with less rigor honors courses.

I wonder what his class rank was. I teach in a MD public high school and have DCs who have/will apply to UMD. In the past few years, UMD only seems to accept the top 10%.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

Can you list a few most rigorous APs taken?

The Blair HS STEM magnet program classes are generally described as higher level than AP. In addition to all the magnet courses, DS took a couple of AP history classes (I believe Government and Modern World, not U.S. History as it was advised that students not take that as a freshman). He took honors English to balance things out in his schedule, which is what is recommended for magnet students - take AP History OR English - some, of course, took both. Believe it or not. I'm not answering anymore questions on this thread. Thanks for the kind words from some of the folks here. Best of luck to your students.

Sorry for the rejection but that explains it. There were many other UMD applicants from Blair who took much more rigorous AP courses & exams including AP Calc BC, AP physics C, AP English lit, AP US History, AP Chemistry, etc., while your student applied with just an SAT score and high weighted GPA that was built with less rigor honors courses.

PP, tell the counselors not to encourage SMCS students to take Hon English or History classes. SMCS alone isn’t a free ticket to UMD when others in the same school (and the same program) are maxing out their APs and flexing their well-roundedness. When our kid started CAP, the counselors were pushing AP Physics on the CAP 9th graders. I’m glad my CAP kid took that class and AP Calc AB. It made them all the more competitive against the high achievers at Blair.

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Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

Can you list a few most rigorous APs taken?

The Blair HS STEM magnet program classes are generally described as higher level than AP. In addition to all the magnet courses, DS took a couple of AP history classes (I believe Government and Modern World, not U.S. History as it was advised that students not take that as a freshman). He took honors English to balance things out in his schedule, which is what is recommended for magnet students - take AP History OR English - some, of course, took both. Believe it or not. I'm not answering anymore questions on this thread. Thanks for the kind words from some of the folks here. Best of luck to your students.

Sorry for the rejection but that explains it. There were many other UMD applicants from Blair who took much more rigorous AP courses & exams including AP Calc BC, AP physics C, AP English lit, AP US History, AP Chemistry, etc., while your student applied with just an SAT score and high weighted GPA that was built with less rigor honors courses.

Not PP but you don’t understand. This kid will have had all the rigorous magnet courses which go beyond AP and May have taken AP exams too (without taking the course, like any Blair magnet student - none of them take the course for AP calc, for example). uMD is very familiar with this program and considers it appropriately - as beyond AP. There is no AP quantum physics, for example. Or marine biology,

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Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

Can you list a few most rigorous APs taken?

The Blair HS STEM magnet program classes are generally described as higher level than AP. In addition to all the magnet courses, DS took a couple of AP history classes (I believe Government and Modern World, not U.S. History as it was advised that students not take that as a freshman). He took honors English to balance things out in his schedule, which is what is recommended for magnet students - take AP History OR English - some, of course, took both. Believe it or not. I'm not answering anymore questions on this thread. Thanks for the kind words from some of the folks here. Best of luck to your students.

Sorry for the rejection but that explains it. There were many other UMD applicants from Blair who took much more rigorous AP courses & exams including AP Calc BC, AP physics C, AP English lit, AP US History, AP Chemistry, etc., while your student applied with just an SAT score and high weighted GPA that was built with less rigor honors courses.

I wonder what his class rank was. I teach in a MD public high school and have DCs who have/will apply to UMD. In the past few years, UMD only seems to accept the top 10%.

Class rank? I thought MCPS high schools only reveal top 5% and that is only at graduation. I don’t think that information is reported to colleges at the time of application.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

Can you list a few most rigorous APs taken?

The Blair HS STEM magnet program classes are generally described as higher level than AP. In addition to all the magnet courses, DS took a couple of AP history classes (I believe Government and Modern World, not U.S. History as it was advised that students not take that as a freshman). He took honors English to balance things out in his schedule, which is what is recommended for magnet students - take AP History OR English - some, of course, took both. Believe it or not. I'm not answering anymore questions on this thread. Thanks for the kind words from some of the folks here. Best of luck to your students.

Sorry for the rejection but that explains it. There were many other UMD applicants from Blair who took much more rigorous AP courses & exams including AP Calc BC, AP physics C, AP English lit, AP US History, AP Chemistry, etc., while your student applied with just an SAT score and high weighted GPA that was built with less rigor honors courses.

PP, tell the counselors not to encourage SMCS students to take Hon English or History classes. SMCS alone isn’t a free ticket to UMD when others in the same school (and the same program) are maxing out their APs and flexing their well-roundedness. When our kid started CAP, the counselors were pushing AP Physics on the CAP 9th graders. I’m glad my CAP kid took that class and AP Calc AB. It made them all the more competitive against the high achievers at Blair.

Sigh. You have to take hon English. There’s no other option in MCPS until later.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

Can you list a few most rigorous APs taken?

The Blair HS STEM magnet program classes are generally described as higher level than AP. In addition to all the magnet courses, DS took a couple of AP history classes (I believe Government and Modern World, not U.S. History as it was advised that students not take that as a freshman). He took honors English to balance things out in his schedule, which is what is recommended for magnet students - take AP History OR English - some, of course, took both. Believe it or not. I'm not answering anymore questions on this thread. Thanks for the kind words from some of the folks here. Best of luck to your students.

Sorry for the rejection but that explains it. There were many other UMD applicants from Blair who took much more rigorous AP courses & exams including AP Calc BC, AP physics C, AP English lit, AP US History, AP Chemistry, etc., while your student applied with just an SAT score and high weighted GPA that was built with less rigor honors courses.

I wonder what his class rank was. I teach in a MD public high school and have DCs who have/will apply to UMD. In the past few years, UMD only seems to accept the top 10%.

MCPS doesn’t calculate class rank!

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

Can you list a few most rigorous APs taken?

The Blair HS STEM magnet program classes are generally described as higher level than AP. In addition to all the magnet courses, DS took a couple of AP history classes (I believe Government and Modern World, not U.S. History as it was advised that students not take that as a freshman). He took honors English to balance things out in his schedule, which is what is recommended for magnet students - take AP History OR English - some, of course, took both. Believe it or not. I'm not answering anymore questions on this thread. Thanks for the kind words from some of the folks here. Best of luck to your students.

Sorry for the rejection but that explains it. There were many other UMD applicants from Blair who took much more rigorous AP courses & exams including AP Calc BC, AP physics C, AP English lit, AP US History, AP Chemistry, etc., while your student applied with just an SAT score and high weighted GPA that was built with less rigor honors courses.

I wonder what his class rank was. I teach in a MD public high school and have DCs who have/will apply to UMD. In the past few years, UMD only seems to accept the top 10%.

That’s the issue: 4.73 whoa is actually very low for Blair SMCS: https://old.mbhs.edu/departments/magnet/ParentResources/MagnetProfile.pdf

It’s the bottom 15% of students in the program, which you wouldn’t know from the regular school profile and I have always wondered why Mr O puts additional breakdowns on the smcs profile.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty rude to say I’m a troll. But I actually get it. I feel like it’s a troll post because it’s outrageous that my son didn’t get in. I purposely put his exact stats here because I wanted people to know what is going on. I wish I were a troll. Lol. No big red flags as suggested. I have heard that students are competing against their classmates and because of the STEM magnet program - the majority of whom apply to UMD - they can’t take all of them, especially in the STEM majors. I wish I knew..

Hoping for some good news for your kid from other schools.

Yes it is outrageous. You might have your kid talk to their HS counselor.

My kid loved their time in SMCS but I would say it was not a plus for college admissions.

Yes, I hadn't considered the whole competitive aspect of the college applications process especially being a magnet student!

Not sure what the counselor can do. Thanks for your support. We will be more prepared for child #2. What a racket this whole process is.

This!
Although I will say my husbands takeaway was also “now we know what to do with DC2” but I disagree. You can do all the things and still not get in. If you don’t have a naturally driven DC (our kids do well but they’re not superstars) it’s not worth pushing it when you can still end up rejected.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer several persistent questions...

Honors>>>>Scholars>>other stuff

Money comes later (Mid-late Feb?) but don't expect a lot in-state, if anything. And Honors is *not* a guarantee of money though probably better chance but some non Honors admits get money too. BK, is, (I think) from Honors admits only however.

Honors is worthwhile if just for the housing and you may find it useful generally too. UH and Aces have the best housing and UH housing (PC and JW) is more convenient than ACES (PF Hall). There are other perfectly fine dorms too if you aren't Honors or are in other Honors programs. UH is easily the biggest Honors program, its the default, least specialized) but best housing and most class options.

There are also Honors versions of some key classes available only to Honors kids. Calculus, for example, and at least in that, all class hours are with the instructor in smaller classes. No discussion section with a TA, no huge lecture hall. Note, many TAs are fantastic, not trying to be critical.

Other programs (Scholars, etc) can be good opportunities but consider the cost (in time/effort): benefit analysis. Consider it even with Honors. Its 15 Credits in Honors. Is the payoff worth it? With the housing, yes, imo. Absent that...maybe.

FC is no big deal. In fact, kids I know like it. Don't view it as a failure. Look at some of the kids who didn't get in...its just a way for them to take more of the kids they should have taken in the first place...

Comp Sci..it will be much harder to declare CS for anyone not admitted directly. Not impossible but I would say do not count on it. Up til now, changing to CS has been fairly easy. Not easy anymore. Have a plan B or go somewhere else.

Thanks for the pertinent info. Does Honors guarantee housing for 4 yrs?

No most of the programs are 2 years. Varies by program. Info on website

That is inaccurate. Even if a program is 2 years, honors students are guaranteed 4 years of housing on campus. However, I don’t know any UMD student that stayed on campus 4 years. They all move off campus.

I made the mistake of checking a UMD Facebook group today. It wasn't even about housing. Except it was. Housing was all it was. Grim, tiny rooms in cheap apartment complexes in Greenbelt. Parking lots and highways. 1,000 a month to live with four roommates like you're in an exurban dystopia. What fun.

Huh? Thousands of student live within a half mile of campus. Something like 10 apartment complexes within walking distance.

Grim tiny rooms next to a highway in College Park? Where do I sign?

Maybe it’s time for your snowflake to live their own life?

Y'all are so defensive about a school no one else in the country cares about. I just think it's sad to see so many highly intelligent kids with so much potential pigeonholed into such narrow boxes in such an ugly provincial place.

Geez. You sound like you have a chip on your shoulder. No one gives a crap about what you think.

Not at all, lol. College Park was never on our list because it's an ugly, provincial place. It honestly just makes me sad, with so many excellent colleges out there that so many of you have such a small window for "success" for your kids. You only want them to have one of two or three majors, you only want them to stay in this area, you only want them to work for a limited number of government-subsidized local companies or agencies.

Your kids have so much potential, and this is all you can see.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

This has to be bs, I'm sorry. I hereby id this poster as a troll.

(Caveat, troll says rejected from ENGR not Umd) Did troll get into L&S?

I don't know everything but every resident kid with these stats is admitted. Does this kid have a criminal record or some other black eye on the application?

What the hell is wrong with you?

This happened to more than one highly-qualified kid at Blair. It's a numbers game. It's upsetting enough without your false insinuations.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer several persistent questions...

Honors>>>>Scholars>>other stuff

Money comes later (Mid-late Feb?) but don't expect a lot in-state, if anything. And Honors is *not* a guarantee of money though probably better chance but some non Honors admits get money too. BK, is, (I think) from Honors admits only however.

Honors is worthwhile if just for the housing and you may find it useful generally too. UH and Aces have the best housing and UH housing (PC and JW) is more convenient than ACES (PF Hall). There are other perfectly fine dorms too if you aren't Honors or are in other Honors programs. UH is easily the biggest Honors program, its the default, least specialized) but best housing and most class options.

There are also Honors versions of some key classes available only to Honors kids. Calculus, for example, and at least in that, all class hours are with the instructor in smaller classes. No discussion section with a TA, no huge lecture hall. Note, many TAs are fantastic, not trying to be critical.

Other programs (Scholars, etc) can be good opportunities but consider the cost (in time/effort): benefit analysis. Consider it even with Honors. Its 15 Credits in Honors. Is the payoff worth it? With the housing, yes, imo. Absent that...maybe.

FC is no big deal. In fact, kids I know like it. Don't view it as a failure. Look at some of the kids who didn't get in...its just a way for them to take more of the kids they should have taken in the first place...

Comp Sci..it will be much harder to declare CS for anyone not admitted directly. Not impossible but I would say do not count on it. Up til now, changing to CS has been fairly easy. Not easy anymore. Have a plan B or go somewhere else.

Thanks for the pertinent info. Does Honors guarantee housing for 4 yrs?

No most of the programs are 2 years. Varies by program. Info on website

That is inaccurate. Even if a program is 2 years, honors students are guaranteed 4 years of housing on campus. However, I don’t know any UMD student that stayed on campus 4 years. They all move off campus.

I made the mistake of checking a UMD Facebook group today. It wasn't even about housing. Except it was. Housing was all it was. Grim, tiny rooms in cheap apartment complexes in Greenbelt. Parking lots and highways. 1,000 a month to live with four roommates like you're in an exurban dystopia. What fun.

Huh? Thousands of student live within a half mile of campus. Something like 10 apartment complexes within walking distance.

Grim tiny rooms next to a highway in College Park? Where do I sign?

Maybe it’s time for your snowflake to live their own life?

Y'all are so defensive about a school no one else in the country cares about. I just think it's sad to see so many highly intelligent kids with so much potential pigeonholed into such narrow boxes in such an ugly provincial place.

Geez. You sound like you have a chip on your shoulder. No one gives a crap about what you think.

Not at all, lol. College Park was never on our list because it's an ugly, provincial place. It honestly just makes me sad, with so many excellent colleges out there that so many of you have such a small window for "success" for your kids. You only want them to have one of two or three majors, you only want them to stay in this area, you only want them to work for a limited number of government-subsidized local companies or agencies.

Your kids have so much potential, and this is all you can see.

You have so much entitlement. For some of us instate is THE ONLY option.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To answer several persistent questions...

Honors>>>>Scholars>>other stuff

Money comes later (Mid-late Feb?) but don't expect a lot in-state, if anything. And Honors is *not* a guarantee of money though probably better chance but some non Honors admits get money too. BK, is, (I think) from Honors admits only however.

Honors is worthwhile if just for the housing and you may find it useful generally too. UH and Aces have the best housing and UH housing (PC and JW) is more convenient than ACES (PF Hall). There are other perfectly fine dorms too if you aren't Honors or are in other Honors programs. UH is easily the biggest Honors program, its the default, least specialized) but best housing and most class options.

There are also Honors versions of some key classes available only to Honors kids. Calculus, for example, and at least in that, all class hours are with the instructor in smaller classes. No discussion section with a TA, no huge lecture hall. Note, many TAs are fantastic, not trying to be critical.

Other programs (Scholars, etc) can be good opportunities but consider the cost (in time/effort): benefit analysis. Consider it even with Honors. Its 15 Credits in Honors. Is the payoff worth it? With the housing, yes, imo. Absent that...maybe.

FC is no big deal. In fact, kids I know like it. Don't view it as a failure. Look at some of the kids who didn't get in...its just a way for them to take more of the kids they should have taken in the first place...

Comp Sci..it will be much harder to declare CS for anyone not admitted directly. Not impossible but I would say do not count on it. Up til now, changing to CS has been fairly easy. Not easy anymore. Have a plan B or go somewhere else.

Thanks for the pertinent info. Does Honors guarantee housing for 4 yrs?

No most of the programs are 2 years. Varies by program. Info on website

That is inaccurate. Even if a program is 2 years, honors students are guaranteed 4 years of housing on campus. However, I don’t know any UMD student that stayed on campus 4 years. They all move off campus.

I made the mistake of checking a UMD Facebook group today. It wasn't even about housing. Except it was. Housing was all it was. Grim, tiny rooms in cheap apartment complexes in Greenbelt. Parking lots and highways. 1,000 a month to live with four roommates like you're in an exurban dystopia. What fun.

Huh? Thousands of student live within a half mile of campus. Something like 10 apartment complexes within walking distance.

Grim tiny rooms next to a highway in College Park? Where do I sign?

Maybe it’s time for your snowflake to live their own life?

Y'all are so defensive about a school no one else in the country cares about. I just think it's sad to see so many highly intelligent kids with so much potential pigeonholed into such narrow boxes in such an ugly provincial place.

Geez. You sound like you have a chip on your shoulder. No one gives a crap about what you think.

Not at all, lol. College Park was never on our list because it's an ugly, provincial place. It honestly just makes me sad, with so many excellent colleges out there that so many of you have such a small window for "success" for your kids. You only want them to have one of two or three majors, you only want them to stay in this area, you only want them to work for a limited number of government-subsidized local companies or agencies.

Your kids have so much potential, and this is all you can see.

You have so much entitlement. For some of us instate is THE ONLY option.

Really? Because with merit aid private colleges are actually cheaper for us. I don't think we can afford to send DC to instate--to either UMBC or St Mary's.