I don't think I can be friends with moms who drive huge SUVs

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Never mind. Your parents were definitely early adopters if they were buying the first-gen Prius in 1997.

Which also means they were INCREDIBLY wealthy. Interesting that OP hasn't brought socioeconomic class into this - I suspect she's just angry others can afford a lifestyle she doesn't believe they're entitled to.

OP here. We were middle class. Prius was 22k. Bought the car my senior year which was 2008

Middle class don't buy their kids $22K cars. Be real.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Never mind. Your parents were definitely early adopters if they were buying the first-gen Prius in 1997.

Which also means they were INCREDIBLY wealthy. Interesting that OP hasn't brought socioeconomic class into this - I suspect she's just angry others can afford a lifestyle she doesn't believe they're entitled to.

OP here. How do you know these people can afford these lifestyles? I am not jealous. I feel sad for them because they are chasing after material things. I know people making less than us with these types of cars. They are in so much debt, but it's accepted as normal in the US to some degree to have car payments and pay interest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Never mind. Your parents were definitely early adopters if they were buying the first-gen Prius in 1997.

Which also means they were INCREDIBLY wealthy. Interesting that OP hasn't brought socioeconomic class into this - I suspect she's just angry others can afford a lifestyle she doesn't believe they're entitled to.

OP here. We were middle class. Prius was 22k. Bought the car my senior year which was 2008

Middle class don't buy their kids $22K cars. Be real.

We were definitely middle class. My parents own a mom and pop shop. They saved up so that I would have a nice car. They wanted me to have a safe car. I went to public high school. I remember we talked and planned which car to buy for at least a year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Never mind. Your parents were definitely early adopters if they were buying the first-gen Prius in 1997.

Which also means they were INCREDIBLY wealthy. Interesting that OP hasn't brought socioeconomic class into this - I suspect she's just angry others can afford a lifestyle she doesn't believe they're entitled to.

OP here. How do you know these people can afford these lifestyles? I am not jealous. I feel sad for them because they are chasing after material things. I know people making less than us with these types of cars. They are in so much debt, but it's accepted as normal in the US to some degree to have car payments and pay interest.

Just because you know one family in debt doesn't mean everyone that has an SUV is. Lots of us pay cash for them. But your opinion of me doesn't factor into my decisions at all. I don't care what anyone else thinks or assumes about me.

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Anonymous wrote:We recently moved to the suburbs, and they are everywhere. Some of the kids are in travel lacrosse and soccer and they are in FIRST grade. They all have the same exact huge white SUV. It was hilarious the other day because a few of them ran into each other at the grocery store and were talking obnoxiously about their vacations while standing in line at Aldi. Anyway, once I got to the parking lot, they were all talking and loading their groceries. They all have the exact type of car a HUGE white SUV. My first car in high school was a Prius. Dh wants an SUV but I am adamant about having a sedan. We have two kids, and it's fine. Do these people not care about global warming? We had an earthquake a week ago, killing thousands of people. Driving these huge cars is such a waste and global warming contributes to more earthquakes. I went from living in an apartment to this. It's such a big change.

OMG, you are me! We went from a small house to an apartment and now a huge house in the burbs. Things are different here! Everyone has a freaking large SUV with a BMW/LEXUS/ blah blah sign on their car.

It's almost like the people who buy huge houses in the burbs don't care about their carbon footprint

*Raises hand*

Yup. You can't really shame me about something I don't care about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We recently moved to the suburbs, and they are everywhere. Some of the kids are in travel lacrosse and soccer and they are in FIRST grade. They all have the same exact huge white SUV. It was hilarious the other day because a few of them ran into each other at the grocery store and were talking obnoxiously about their vacations while standing in line at Aldi. Anyway, once I got to the parking lot, they were all talking and loading their groceries. They all have the exact type of car a HUGE white SUV. My first car in high school was a Prius. Dh wants an SUV but I am adamant about having a sedan. We have two kids, and it's fine. Do these people not care about global warming? We had an earthquake a week ago, killing thousands of people. Driving these huge cars is such a waste and global warming contributes to more earthquakes. I went from living in an apartment to this. It's such a big change.

OMG, you are me! We went from a small house to an apartment and now a huge house in the burbs. Things are different here! Everyone has a freaking large SUV with a BMW/LEXUS/ blah blah sign on their car.

It's almost like the people who buy huge houses in the burbs don't care about their carbon footprint

*Raises hand*

Yup. You can't really shame me about something I don't care about.

Yeah we know.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, those big ass suvs are poser mom equivalent of big trucks for poser dudes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We recently moved to the suburbs, and they are everywhere. Some of the kids are in travel lacrosse and soccer and they are in FIRST grade. They all have the same exact huge white SUV. It was hilarious the other day because a few of them ran into each other at the grocery store and were talking obnoxiously about their vacations while standing in line at Aldi. Anyway, once I got to the parking lot, they were all talking and loading their groceries. They all have the exact type of car a HUGE white SUV. My first car in high school was a Prius. Dh wants an SUV but I am adamant about having a sedan. We have two kids, and it's fine. Do these people not care about global warming? We had an earthquake a week ago, killing thousands of people. Driving these huge cars is such a waste and global warming contributes to more earthquakes. I went from living in an apartment to this. It's such a big change.

OMG, you are me! We went from a small house to an apartment and now a huge house in the burbs. Things are different here! Everyone has a freaking large SUV with a BMW/LEXUS/ blah blah sign on their car.

It's almost like the people who buy huge houses in the burbs don't care about their carbon footprint

*Raises hand*

Yup. You can't really shame me about something I don't care about.

Yeah we know.

Yet it seems to bug you that we don't care one bit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We recently moved to the suburbs, and they are everywhere. Some of the kids are in travel lacrosse and soccer and they are in FIRST grade. They all have the same exact huge white SUV. It was hilarious the other day because a few of them ran into each other at the grocery store and were talking obnoxiously about their vacations while standing in line at Aldi. Anyway, once I got to the parking lot, they were all talking and loading their groceries. They all have the exact type of car a HUGE white SUV. My first car in high school was a Prius. Dh wants an SUV but I am adamant about having a sedan. We have two kids, and it's fine. Do these people not care about global warming? We had an earthquake a week ago, killing thousands of people. Driving these huge cars is such a waste and global warming contributes to more earthquakes. I went from living in an apartment to this. It's such a big change.

OMG, you are me! We went from a small house to an apartment and now a huge house in the burbs. Things are different here! Everyone has a freaking large SUV with a BMW/LEXUS/ blah blah sign on their car.

It's almost like the people who buy huge houses in the burbs don't care about their carbon footprint

*Raises hand*

Yup. You can't really shame me about something I don't care about.

Yeah we know.

Yet it seems to bug you that we don't care one bit.

People who truly don’t care don’t post on message boards about how much they don’t care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Never mind. Your parents were definitely early adopters if they were buying the first-gen Prius in 1997.

Which also means they were INCREDIBLY wealthy. Interesting that OP hasn't brought socioeconomic class into this - I suspect she's just angry others can afford a lifestyle she doesn't believe they're entitled to.

OP here. We were middle class. Prius was 22k. Bought the car my senior year which was 2008

Middle class don't buy their kids $22K cars. Be real.

We were definitely middle class. My parents own a mom and pop shop. They saved up so that I would have a nice car. They wanted me to have a safe car. I went to public high school. I remember we talked and planned which car to buy for at least a year.

Sorry, the PP is right. No one who is middle class spent $22k on a used car for their kid in 1997. That's absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:We do a lot of things for the environment, but we also need to carpool. Our Subaru Outback won’t suffice much longer for the reason that we have 2 kids. We can’t car pool except to bring 1 more kid. There are not a ton of 1 kid families and those families don’t always have space in their cars for our two.

If you want to fit 3-5 kids + sports gear, you will need an SUV or minivan.

So in Europe and the rest of the world why are they able to do this without the need for a HUGE suv?

I live in Germany. I’ve also lived in Luxembourg, Belgium, and France in the last decade. Guess what.. they’re all driving SUVs and the market for American branded trucks and vans is HUGE.

No they aren't, most Europeans are baffled by giant vehicles and are very concerned about the state of the world their children will grow up in, and they live those values. They are more secure too.

NP. I have lived in Switzerland for the last 2.5 years and all the new cars I see are SUVs. We drive one too.

+1 many in Germany too.

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Anonymous wrote:If you cared about the environment, you'd still be living in an apartment in the city where you can walk everywhere. Hypocrite.

THIS.

Ok, not op here but I’m choosing to raise my kid in the city, in an apartment, and rarely drive because I think we all need to do our part to reduce our reliance on fossil fuels.

I also think giant SUVs are a pox on humanity.

So now what’s your excuse?

Do you fly on airplanes?

Aviation is the most climate-intensive form of transport.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you cared about the environment, you'd still be living in an apartment in the city where you can walk everywhere. Hypocrite.

THIS.

Ok, not op here but I’m choosing to raise my kid in the city, in an apartment, and rarely drive because I think we all need to do our part to reduce our reliance on fossil fuels.

I also think giant SUVs are a pox on humanity.

So now what’s your excuse?

Do you fly on airplanes?

Aviation is the most climate-intensive form of transport.

It reminds me of when Meghan and Harry got serious sh*t for shading everyone about their lack of environmentalism and then were called out for flying in private jets everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL! We have one child and have a "large" 3 row SUV. Because I'm her Girl Scout troop leader and she's in a big car pool for school (LD school). It is also our only vehicle as we live walking distance to metro (Vienna). Don't assume you know everything about these people OP!

Blah, blah, blah. You lost me at one kid.

As a parent of one kid, most parents of multiple kids expect you to do the driving/hard work as they complain they cannot with multiple kids.

I'm a parent of one kid and no one has ever expected me to drive their kid around or take care of their kids. Also, my kid does Girl Scouts and I can only think of a handful of times where it made sense to transport them somewhere in one vehicle, and we collectively rented a vehicle for it. None of the parents of our troupe has a car big enough to transport all of them at once and no one would expect them to -- there are always multiple chaperones for any activity so there are 3-4 cars going anyway since of course no one has a car big enough for 3-4 adults and 7 girls. That's called a transport van.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you went from living in an apartment to a suburban house (that takes up yard space and more resources than your old apartment) and you’re upset that people aren’t conforming to you and your standards?

Who do you think you are, exactly?

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