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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I didn’t read all the posts, I might later but I already know my opinion which is this:

Yes, animal products are yummy and can make veggies tasty when prepared together. But olive oil is also fantastically yummy and any vegetable can be prepared very testily with it and maybe herbs and spices too. Vegan dishes are easy to prepare and any chef with basic skills can make them.

Any good hostess should be gracious enough to learn guest dietary requirements and offer dishes that can be enjoyed by a vegan or gf or lactose intolerant guest. The whole point of hosting guests is to show agape for one’s loved ones by catering to their needs. For Pete’s sake it is a cornerstone of nearly every faith tradition in human history.

The self righteous rejection of ‘entitled’ vegans is, I wholeheartedly believe - and I’m saying this because it reflects my own struggle - tied to the guilt we all feel at some level knowing that much of the meat and dairy we consume as omnivores is, in our times, a product of animal agriculture on an industrial scale that is undeniably cruel to animals. If we didn’t have some amount of this guilt - however repressed and unacknowledged, we wouldn’t have the resentment we have toward vegans. The vast majority of vegans are primarily motivated by a desire to reduce animal suffering, and only secondarily because medicine has established a clear link between avoidance or minimization of animal products in the diet and greater health in large populations of people.

Omnivores choose to overlook the cruelty. And we know on some level because of this we are less compassionate than our vegan friends. We maybe wish we had the willpower to do it ourselves. We resent that we don’t. We project that resentment on our vegan friends.

[b]Ladies, learn to make a few terrific vegan dishes and make sure to have them prepared when a vegan comes to call. It’s what Jesus would do, for Pete’s sake![/quote][/b]

Wow. Sexism and the assumption that everyone is Christian, all rolled into one vile package.[/quote]

And it is completely wrong.  Jesus would NOT encourage people to be vegan.  Jesus himself was a carnivore.  He would in no way be enabling someone using food control as an unhealthy coping mechanism.[/quote]

Jfc, it’s not unhealthy. I don’t want to murder animals. Seems simple enough. [/quote]

Yet when you walk on the sidewalk, you walk on and kill ants. When you walk in the grass or in the forest, you also walk on and kill ants and other small animals.  When you swat at a mosquito, you kill it.  When you swat a fly, you kill it.  All of these are animals that you knowingly kill.  Being vegan isn't keeping you from killing animals at all ...

Something to think about.   :lol: [/quote]

+1[/quote]

I do my best to catch and release bugs inside the house.

You’re right that it’s not perfect. But it seems your point is that if you cannot stop from killing any living thing you shouldn’t try at all? I’m not sure what your point is anymore other than a weird thought experiment.[/quote]

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