FCV 2007

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ECNL mid Atlantic conf has many poor teams. Why is this being ignored?

The NC and SC teams are not very good with maybe one exception. Too many teams and the talent is watered down.

Let's not talk about a few of the more local teams. ouch


There is not one conference opponent FCV faces that is ranked in the top 100 nationally and they are still 2-1-1 and in 3rd place currently in GA.


Yet your best ECNL team only beat them in overtime by a defensive mistake a handful of minutes shy of penalty shootout… methinks your ECNL program isn’t that big of a deal either?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ECNL mid Atlantic conf has many poor teams. Why is this being ignored?

The NC and SC teams are not very good with maybe one exception. Too many teams and the talent is watered down.

Let's not talk about a few of the more local teams. ouch


There is not one conference opponent FCV faces that is ranked in the top 100 nationally and they are still 2-1-1 and in 3rd place currently in GA.


Yet your best ECNL team only beat them in overtime by a defensive mistake a handful of minutes shy of penalty shootout… methinks your ECNL program isn’t that big of a deal either?


And a last second FG helped my Ravens beat the Lions this last weekend. Do you really think those two teams are about even?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ECNL mid Atlantic conf has many poor teams. Why is this being ignored?

The NC and SC teams are not very good with maybe one exception. Too many teams and the talent is watered down.

Let's not talk about a few of the more local teams. ouch


There is not one conference opponent FCV faces that is ranked in the top 100 nationally and they are still 2-1-1 and in 3rd place currently in GA.


Yet your best ECNL team only beat them in overtime by a defensive mistake a handful of minutes shy of penalty shootout… methinks your ECNL program isn’t that big of a deal either?


But FCV did lose, FCV have never beaten them and Loudoun is not even the best team in the conference, that would currently be Union.

You did tie Sporting Delaware and lost to Armour so, you might want to just worry about getting out of 3rd place in a weak GA division before you speculate on how you would do in ECNL. And, by the way, you do have to speculate how you would do in ECNL. Every season spent on the outside looking in as GA weakens and more and more players leave your team for ECNL teams. Expect more closer games with GA clubs, not because they are getting better but because your team will slowly regress to the mean.

The first thing you should do this year is compare the coaches list between the ECNL and GA showcases.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ECNL mid Atlantic conf has many poor teams. Why is this being ignored?

The NC and SC teams are not very good with maybe one exception. Too many teams and the talent is watered down.

Let's not talk about a few of the more local teams. ouch


There is not one conference opponent FCV faces that is ranked in the top 100 nationally and they are still 2-1-1 and in 3rd place currently in GA.


Yet your best ECNL team only beat them in overtime by a defensive mistake a handful of minutes shy of penalty shootout… methinks your ECNL program isn’t that big of a deal either?


And a last second FG helped my Ravens beat the Lions this last weekend. Do you really think those two teams are about even?


Yes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The ECNL mid Atlantic conf has many poor teams. Why is this being ignored?

The NC and SC teams are not very good with maybe one exception. Too many teams and the talent is watered down.

Let's not talk about a few of the more local teams. ouch


You don't have a clue. Let's look at overall stats of both 07 conferences:

Teams in top 100: ECNL MA: 36% (5 teams); GA MA: 10% (1 team)

Teams in top 125: ECNL MA: 50% (7 teams); GA MA: 20% (2 teams)

Teams in top 200: ECNL MA: 72% (10 teams); GA MA: 50% (5 teams)

Teams OUTSIDE TOP 300 ECNL MA: 14% (2 teams); GA MA: 40% (4 teams).....one of which FVC tied 4-4......

NC/SC in the 07 MA ECNL have 6 teams in top 150 and only 1 outside top 300 (NCFC). Safe to say that outside of NCFC and BRYC, ECNL MA is very strong and teams are getting really good competition week in and week out.

Youth Soccer Rankings of teams in both conferences (ECNL teams in bold):
VA Union 25
FCV 37
Charlotte SA 82
NC Courage 83
Loudoun 86
Charlotte Indep 90
Wilmington 102
CESA 112

Balt Armour 114
Balt Celt 134
NC Fusion 137
Phil Ukran 153
Arlington 190
SJEB 190
Richmond 199
Cedar Stars 224
VDA 247
SC 292

PA Classics 317
NCFC 392
Skyline 427
Metro 479
Sporting DE 598
BRYC 627
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ECNL mid Atlantic conf has many poor teams. Why is this being ignored?

The NC and SC teams are not very good with maybe one exception. Too many teams and the talent is watered down.

Let's not talk about a few of the more local teams. ouch


You don't have a clue. Let's look at overall stats of both 07 conferences:

Teams in top 100: ECNL MA: 36% (5 teams); GA MA: 10% (1 team)

Teams in top 125: ECNL MA: 50% (7 teams); GA MA: 20% (2 teams)

Teams in top 200: ECNL MA: 72% (10 teams); GA MA: 50% (5 teams)

Teams OUTSIDE TOP 300 ECNL MA: 14% (2 teams); GA MA: 40% (4 teams).....one of which FVC tied 4-4......

NC/SC in the 07 MA ECNL have 6 teams in top 150 and only 1 outside top 300 (NCFC). Safe to say that outside of NCFC and BRYC, ECNL MA is very strong and teams are getting really good competition week in and week out.

Youth Soccer Rankings of teams in both conferences (ECNL teams in bold):
VA Union 25
FCV 37
Charlotte SA 82
NC Courage 83
Loudoun 86
Charlotte Indep 90
Wilmington 102
CESA 112

Balt Armour 114
Balt Celt 134
NC Fusion 137
Phil Ukran 153
Arlington 190
SJEB 190
Richmond 199
Cedar Stars 224
VDA 247
SC 292

PA Classics 317
NCFC 392
Skyline 427
Metro 479
Sporting DE 598
BRYC 627


Go back to being a CCL dad
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ECNL mid Atlantic conf has many poor teams. Why is this being ignored?

The NC and SC teams are not very good with maybe one exception. Too many teams and the talent is watered down.

Let's not talk about a few of the more local teams. ouch


You don't have a clue. Let's look at overall stats of both 07 conferences:

Teams in top 100: ECNL MA: 36% (5 teams); GA MA: 10% (1 team)

Teams in top 125: ECNL MA: 50% (7 teams); GA MA: 20% (2 teams)

Teams in top 200: ECNL MA: 72% (10 teams); GA MA: 50% (5 teams)

Teams OUTSIDE TOP 300 ECNL MA: 14% (2 teams); GA MA: 40% (4 teams).....one of which FVC tied 4-4......

NC/SC in the 07 MA ECNL have 6 teams in top 150 and only 1 outside top 300 (NCFC). Safe to say that outside of NCFC and BRYC, ECNL MA is very strong and teams are getting really good competition week in and week out.

Youth Soccer Rankings of teams in both conferences (ECNL teams in bold):
VA Union 25
FCV 37
Charlotte SA 82
NC Courage 83
Loudoun 86
Charlotte Indep 90
Wilmington 102
CESA 112

Balt Armour 114
Balt Celt 134
NC Fusion 137
Phil Ukran 153
Arlington 190
SJEB 190
Richmond 199
Cedar Stars 224
VDA 247
SC 292

PA Classics 317
NCFC 392
Skyline 427
Metro 479
Sporting DE 598
BRYC 627


Go back to being a CCL dad


Lol and typical......when you don't like the facts and can't make a logical argument yourself, you simply resort to insults. Wave that Trump flag.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ECNL mid Atlantic conf has many poor teams. Why is this being ignored?

The NC and SC teams are not very good with maybe one exception. Too many teams and the talent is watered down.

Let's not talk about a few of the more local teams. ouch


You don't have a clue. Let's look at overall stats of both 07 conferences:

Teams in top 100: ECNL MA: 36% (5 teams); GA MA: 10% (1 team)

Teams in top 125: ECNL MA: 50% (7 teams); GA MA: 20% (2 teams)

Teams in top 200: ECNL MA: 72% (10 teams); GA MA: 50% (5 teams)

Teams OUTSIDE TOP 300 ECNL MA: 14% (2 teams); GA MA: 40% (4 teams).....one of which FVC tied 4-4......

NC/SC in the 07 MA ECNL have 6 teams in top 150 and only 1 outside top 300 (NCFC). Safe to say that outside of NCFC and BRYC, ECNL MA is very strong and teams are getting really good competition week in and week out.

Youth Soccer Rankings of teams in both conferences (ECNL teams in bold):
VA Union 25
FCV 37
Charlotte SA 82
NC Courage 83
Loudoun 86
Charlotte Indep 90
Wilmington 102
CESA 112

Balt Armour 114
Balt Celt 134
NC Fusion 137
Phil Ukran 153
Arlington 190
SJEB 190
Richmond 199
Cedar Stars 224
VDA 247
SC 292

PA Classics 317
NCFC 392
Skyline 427
Metro 479
Sporting DE 598
BRYC 627


Go back to being a CCL dad


The numbers don't lie.

FCV is the only top 100 team in their conference. They can say how they would or wouldn't do in ECNL and the reality is they would be fine but they would not be a lock to win the MA in ECNL. They would actually have to compete to be top 4 considering they are 3rd now in GA.

But the reality is, they will not be in ECNL and at a certain point parents will realize that their kids are simply not being challenged. Even here people are beginning to dismiss FCV. It is no wonder that there are so many threads about FCV likely started by FCV parents as an attempt to stay in the public eye and be noticed. Nobody cares about their wins because nobody respects who they are even playing.

FCV parents are in a no win situation. If you win it is expected and nobody is either impressed or cares. If you lose then you are relentlessly mocked. And frankly, a part of earning respect is winning games on a consistent basis against respected, quality opponents. Waiting for Jeff Cup or GA Playoff results just isn't enough especially when you don't advance in what is considered a watered down league.

GA is not the draw that you think it is and your 9th place 09 team is a glimpse of the future of your teams and the league moving forward without being ECNL.
Anonymous
Assuming things look roughly the same in rankings next year this is how FCV GA teams will look like:

05 - 3rd
06 - 2nd
07 - 2nd
08 - 4th
09 - 13th
10 - 15th
11 - Pre GA Unranked in both Youth Soccer Rankings AND GotSoccer. Is there even a 11 team. I can't find any record of them playing in NCSL, EDP or ODSL
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The main issue LS has is that if FCV were awarded an ECNL spot Loudoun Club would cease to exist. The numbers in college and national team placement do not lie.

I know I can speak on the subject with kids in both programs. (Loudoun child stays because of friends - FCV child does not leave due to high soccer aspirations in the future)


Loudoun would still have over 10000 kids signing up every year.


You sure? There’s a reason They cut coaching salaries by 30%.

Hint: it’s related to that heist pulled off in Spring of 2020


Plus ongoing covid fears, or objections to the covid policies. Either way, the numbers are improving for Loudoun Soccer. I can't give you specifics because they have changed what is available on the website.
Anonymous
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Hint: it’s related to that heist pulled off in Spring of 2020


FCV didn't give out refunds either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
FCV is a niche girls club and relies on recruiting players to their teams to survive, which requires winning teams and a track record of college placements for marketing.


Girls they don't think are capable of college placement, will get ignored in practices, and even not invited to matches.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Assuming things look roughly the same in rankings next year this is how FCV GA teams will look like:

05 - 3rd
06 - 2nd
07 - 2nd
08 - 4th
09 - 13th
10 - 15th
11 - Pre GA Unranked in both Youth Soccer Rankings AND GotSoccer. Is there even a 11 team. I can't find any record of them playing in NCSL, EDP or ODSL


11 - FCV still has a team in NCSL http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/_element_display/#%2F80738%2Fteams%2F102100997%2F96395329-102101159%2FTEAM.html%3Frnd%3D1632938728146
The EDP team moved to ECNL-R and plays as Villarreal https://tgs.totalglobalsports.com/public/flightstandings.aspx?eid=2384&fid=12598


Reliance on soccer rankings especially for anything pre-11v11 is really inaccurate. Rosters at these ages are fluid and players can be quite different from game to game. And with pre-GA (10,11) teams playing as Villarreal none of their games will be factored into the rankings. But if it makes you feel better to study these rankings, you do you. Nobody but you cares about these cross league rankings and certainly not the clubs. The only ranking that matters is in your league's conference standings because that's how you get entry to the national tournaments and showcases.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Hint: it’s related to that heist pulled off in Spring of 2020


FCV didn't give out refunds either.


Did FCV also wait until the 91st day (bypassing credit card companies standard 90 day for reimbursement deadline) until they came out with their lame and sorry azz note about how they “couldn’t” refund because “incurred expenses” (nothing was incurred for rec btw as coaches are parents working for free and fields allocation can be reimbursed) but somehow managed to get over $500,000 from the federal government precisely to offset those alleged covid losses?

Lmao please stfu. Your constant trying of bashing FCV with no tangible arguments other than they’re niche club and other mediocre reasoning is just pathetic.

Loudoun soccer has a track record of operating close to illegality. Let alone morally or ethically.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Hint: it’s related to that heist pulled off in Spring of 2020


FCV didn't give out refunds either.


Did FCV also wait until the 91st day (bypassing credit card companies standard 90 day for reimbursement deadline) until they came out with their lame and sorry azz note about how they “couldn’t” refund because “incurred expenses” (nothing was incurred for rec btw as coaches are parents working for free and fields allocation can be reimbursed) but somehow managed to get over $500,000 from the federal government precisely to offset those alleged covid losses?

Lmao please stfu. Your constant trying of bashing FCV with no tangible arguments other than they’re niche club and other mediocre reasoning is just pathetic.

Loudoun soccer has a track record of operating close to illegality. Let alone morally or ethically.


So FCV didn't give refunds either and LS took PPP loans in accordance to the rules set by the gov't for those loans and this is "close to illegality". Sure. I'll have what you're having.
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