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Future estimate of having 13 kids, freaking 13 kids out of 240 condos, is not based on the rate of elementary school kids coming out of the other apartments in B5. MCPS already admitted that they are not using forecast based on what's happening in Rockville. They are using the same forecast for entire MCPS and that's why we have such a huge under projection and so many portables. MCPS is going to chanage it, but putting Beall at huge disadvantage is not fair based on clearly wrong projections. Since MCPS projections are wrong and they have openly admitted it getting it wrong for condos in Rockville, those estimates of 10 kids or 13 kids are not even funny. It's painful. I see here Beall getting the short end of stick even though B5N has the most number of housing coming. There are lots of kids in those condos and many of them are not even occupied fully. In many other areas , condos may not have so many kids, but it;s not true for RM cluster zone or even in WJ zone. WJ is is in huge mess with capacity for exactly same reason and now MCPS is opening Woodward. Trying to make a decision based on those 10 or 13 kids coming from 100s of condos will create another mess and portables in Beall will never go away. I guess many current parents don't care about it because they won't suffer. Beall zones have the most condos and if MCPS makes decision based on huge under projections for all condos then Beall will suffer the most. |
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TB and Beall zones will get a lot more condos due to all the revitalization of Rockville Pike.
WJ mess started with those condos and it's going to get worse in coming years due to more condos coming the area. Those condos have lots of kids. WJ is cluster pain will be a bit less due to Woodward coming, but elementary school's will keep their portables. |
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The latest supplement for tonight's meeting has a table with the projected # of kids from approved and proposed development, and notes that Tower Oaks was NOT included in the A-E projections due to the recency of the approval:
http://www.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/ATCNZX6269C4/$file/171122%20Nov.16%20CIP%20Hearing%20Follow-ups.pdf Elementary Enrollment projections from APPROVED development B5N - 43 B3 - 56 T1 - 13 PROPOSED development B5N - 16 B3 - 26 CG6 - 16 RP5 - 25 |
This information is one week old and not a new one. Problem is huge under projections of kids in condos and B5 is getting tons of it. RM cluster will be a huge mess in coming years. I guess Beall will be the biggest mess among all schools. |
292 units with 16 kids? Going by what I see it will be at least 35-40 kids. Lots of family rent 1-2 BR and have kids in this area. My son's class has 4-5 kids coming from town center. |
Thanks for posting it here. First time I am seeing it. All projections are for this CIP period. MCPS doesn't anticipate that Tower oaks will have 56 kids within 6 years( this CIP period). All other zone's numbers are for this CIP period. We are comparing apple to orange here to show that RM#5 will be more over crowded than others in same period if we use 56 kids for Tower oaks Tower oaks will have a lot less kids by 2023-2024. I am just going by what MCPS is saying here. |
I don't disagree that there are tons of issues with the numbers but it isn't just B5 that is under projected it is the entire area. There are currently only 55 kids living in B5N. MCPS is projecting that number to go up by another 43 for the current approved stuff and then potentially another 13 for the 200 plus proposed units. If those numbers are too low than all the projections are too low so everyone is screwed. B3 gets Tower Oaks which is 400+ units and then the Twinbrook Metro which is another 400 apartments and MCPS is only projecting 82 total kids for all of that and those include single family and town homes which do have more kids. Also, the plan can't just be move all of B5 and B3 (1700 new approved and potential units) plus maybe RP5 (scenario E) to the new school and say that solves it. That puts all of the proposed growth except the CG townhomes in the new school. Other than B5 there is really no where else in the Beall district to grow...they tried to build 8 townhomes on West Montgomery and got shot down after years of work. We can't all scream about protecting "our" school and just push everyone south to the new school and hope it "works" out. |
They came at the same time as Options 5 and 6. RP2 was staying in RMES 5 in all options is a lie. |
What's wrong with Hungerford trying to start the new school with the best chance for success? What's wrong trying to even out the chances for all students in the cluster to succeed and get together in the middle school with better prepared students? |
That's why I think it's best to leave room in all schools, but leave most room in Beall because B5N is by far the largest zone when it comes to growth. I agree that it will be selfish for push all B5N in RM#5 , but why not simply put either B5S( 25 kids) or even better B6S( 50 kids) in RM#5? Both zones are stable with no new condos. That will free up capacity in Beall to take in future growth clearly visible in B5N and also not put pressure on RM#5. |
That's simply a lie. Options 7 and 8 had RP2 staying at RPES. |
I like this idea. If we want to keep space in all schools then it's better to balance with smaller zones moving rather than one big zone with 100-200 kids moving from one to another. Moving big zones from one to another just shifts the problem to other school . Moving smaller zones will keep some room for extra growth in all schools. |
Most people didn't see those options as realistic. |
Special in what way? |
Who are those most people and how did you manage to gather opinion of most people ? We do have one Google Survey( 160 entries) which has 50% entry from CG. Are you referring to that? All options were created and presented by MCPS because all options were on table. |