Fairfax County Double Murder

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I believe the only smart thing that bb did was stfu. It doesn’t matter how suspicious police /da are of your actions. The only thing that matters if the case can be proven brd.

Agree. Proving he is the stabber brd without AP will be difficult.

But if he was, there should be evidence, no? Easy for me to say as the armchair forensics expert (ahem), but I did not think it was difficult to identify stabbers, especially when le is immediately on the scene.

BB "rendered aid," so blood on him could be from that or stabbing or both.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And calmly convey the combo to the gun safe, the gun safe in another room.

You don't yell, take the kid and get out and then call 911?

What responsible parent or caregiver would have taken the child in the home and left her alone? If it was an actual home invasion there could be multiple people.

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

That ambulance can't arrive if you don't call for it, amirite?!

But there was a 911 call.

The 3rd one where they actually spoke to the dispatcher was after significant delay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Neighbors, is the little girl very isolated too? The idea makes me so sad as CB seemed quite social. She has lost her mommy, 1/2 her family and the former AP she was so close to. Now nothing resembling a healthy childhood and BB has to be feeling some strain. His mother, too.

How long will the IRS keep him on leave, I wonder? AP's trial date and his arrest could be a long way off.

The daughter is very close and attached to BB. I've heard her say I love you to BB several times when I see them walking/riding their bikes around the neighborhood.

Sorry, was not clear. Does she socialize with neighborhood children? Do they socialize with other families?

Of course she is attached to BB, he's removed everyone from before besides himself and his mother in her day to day.

Not really. He's also not a friendly person, even before this incident. Don't really want my children anywhere near an alleged murderer, to be honest.

CB was the one who initiates hangouts and was very affectionate and kind.

Many avoided Brendan’s house for Halloween.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just thinking out loud here - back in the day before CB was a mom, she was worried about having a baby bc of a blood clotting disorder and she didn’t want to bleed out. Known in our friend group. Ob BB knew that- why would she ever come up with the idea of knife play? The details are here, the prosecutors just need to dig more.

Wow. As someone with a clotting disorder myself, I can say with 100% confidence that CB would never have asked for knife play. No way.

Poor CB. Imagine her fear at this entire scene. Her thinking she was really being attacked by JR, watching JR get shot, and finally to be brutally stabbed by her own husband as the AP watched on. How horrifying that must have been for her. I almost wish she had been drugged so she wasn't aware.

Do we know for sure that CB was un-stabbed when JR arrived?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Neighbors, is the little girl very isolated too? The idea makes me so sad as CB seemed quite social. She has lost her mommy, 1/2 her family and the former AP she was so close to. Now nothing resembling a healthy childhood and BB has to be feeling some strain. His mother, too.

How long will the IRS keep him on leave, I wonder? AP's trial date and his arrest could be a long way off.

The daughter is very close and attached to BB. I've heard her say I love you to BB several times when I see them walking/riding their bikes around the neighborhood.

Sorry, was not clear. Does she socialize with neighborhood children? Do they socialize with other families?

Of course she is attached to BB, he's removed everyone from before besides himself and his mother in her day to day.

Not really. He's also not a friendly person, even before this incident. Don't really want my children anywhere near an alleged murderer, to be honest.

CB was the one who initiates hangouts and was very affectionate and kind.

Many avoided Brendan’s house for Halloween.

😂😂

Double dog dare you to go to the Banfields… 👻

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just thinking out loud here - back in the day before CB was a mom, she was worried about having a baby bc of a blood clotting disorder and she didn’t want to bleed out. Known in our friend group. Ob BB knew that- why would she ever come up with the idea of knife play? The details are here, the prosecutors just need to dig more.

Wow. As someone with a clotting disorder myself, I can say with 100% confidence that CB would never have asked for knife play. No way.

Poor CB. Imagine her fear at this entire scene. Her thinking she was really being attacked by JR, watching JR get shot, and finally to be brutally stabbed by her own husband as the AP watched on. How horrifying that must have been for her. I almost wish she had been drugged so she wasn't aware.

Do we know for sure that CB was un-stabbed when JR arrived?

No, we do not. How could we know that?

[Anonymous]

I think BB is guilty AF. But not cooperating with the police doesn’t make him look guilty in my eyes. Every good lawyer will tell you not to say a word - regardless of guilt or innocence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:AP had a bond hearing on Tuesday.
Here is what happened.

Defense and Prosecutor entered several pieces of evidence. Including:
- A copy of the chats between CB and JR was entered under seal
- Multiple pictures of the scene were entered, many under seal.

Defense's Argument

- Prosecutor previously "misstated" that AP had bought plane tickets using her passport.
- She actually had used to apply for a work visa and student visa. AP was legally in the country at the time of her arrest with no intention of leaving.
- Prosecutor has not provided any actual evidence of a conspiracy. Just public statements.
- AP was actively dating multiple people, did not deny relationship with BB during police interview, but mentioned she was dating several people.
- Prosecutor overstated extent of JR's incapacitation from first shot. The Medical Examiner stated that there was possibility that JR could see and move.


Prosecutor's Argument

- Prosecutor surprised Defense with a document showing that ICE has asked to be notified if she is release from custody, and they have a warrant for her. He is afraid that if she is released and ends up in federal custody, they will deport her.
- Prosecutor stated that there is no extradition treaty with Brazil, and that the Feds do not have to acknowledge the case's priority. Feds could just deport AP and then the state of VA has no control.
- Prosecutor also argued that she is manipulative and can be manipulated, and therefore still a danger.
- Displayed a picture of JR's body. JR was clutching his stomach on his back
- Mainly re-iterated things said previously at preliminary hearing.
- Mentioned that BB took the 5th on every question during prelim.


Other facts that came out (from chat transcripts and other things referred to by both sides)

- CB and JR communicated using Fetlife and Telegram.
- JR brought up the idea of bringing a knife, CB asked about the details.
- They discussed blood play (cutting)
- CB asked JR, "Do you still want to tear off my clothes? I have a set of old pajamas you can tear"
- A set of ripped pajamas was recovered from the scene
- Pics of a knife, ropes, chains, rubber restraints were sent by JR to CB
- CB took selfie in a bathing suit and sent to husband. A few hours later sent the same selfie to JR with caption: "I sent this to my husband and he didn't even notice I lost 20 pounds"
- Judge questioned about the 45 min phone call over telegram that occurred between CB and JR
- After the phone call, JR texted: "It was great hearing your sexy voice"
- JR wrote that he had only done blood play once before, with razor blades
- CB had several superficial cuts that barely broke the skin
- JR was in the process of cutting CB with BB walked in
- CB wrote "trip to the zoo" on calendar
- CB had multiple lacerations to her neck and carotid artery. Three lacerations to the right side of her neck were the most likely the cause of death
- In the second 911 call, (mentioned but not played) BB is trying to save CB's life by applying pressure

Judge's Decision
Denied bond for two reasons.
- First, that FCPD could lose jurisdiction/control if the Feds take custody and/or deport
- Second, that AP could still pose a risk to community.

This is wild. Still doesn’t prove anything, but it’s looking more likely that CB was talking to JR. If removing pajamas were actually discussed in the chat, and then found in the house. That seems waaay too specific.

And mentioning her husband didn’t notice her. Only a woman would think of writing something like that. Sounds like their marriage was falling apart.

Funny, I thought it sounded like something a man would think a woman would say!! No woman wants to talk about her dud husband with a lover.

SAME To the last PP. It sounded so cliché -- like something a guy would say if trying to be a woman. That alone made me suspicious. A woman who is looking to hook up with a guy is not going to be crying and complaining about how her husband doesn't notice her.... why would she care!??? She's busy working out another arrangement!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP had a bond hearing on Tuesday.
Here is what happened.

Defense and Prosecutor entered several pieces of evidence. Including:
- A copy of the chats between CB and JR was entered under seal
- Multiple pictures of the scene were entered, many under seal.

Defense's Argument

- Prosecutor previously "misstated" that AP had bought plane tickets using her passport.
- She actually had used to apply for a work visa and student visa. AP was legally in the country at the time of her arrest with no intention of leaving.
- Prosecutor has not provided any actual evidence of a conspiracy. Just public statements.
- AP was actively dating multiple people, did not deny relationship with BB during police interview, but mentioned she was dating several people.
- Prosecutor overstated extent of JR's incapacitation from first shot. The Medical Examiner stated that there was possibility that JR could see and move.


Prosecutor's Argument

- Prosecutor surprised Defense with a document showing that ICE has asked to be notified if she is release from custody, and they have a warrant for her. He is afraid that if she is released and ends up in federal custody, they will deport her.
- Prosecutor stated that there is no extradition treaty with Brazil, and that the Feds do not have to acknowledge the case's priority. Feds could just deport AP and then the state of VA has no control.
- Prosecutor also argued that she is manipulative and can be manipulated, and therefore still a danger.
- Displayed a picture of JR's body. JR was clutching his stomach on his back
- Mainly re-iterated things said previously at preliminary hearing.
- Mentioned that BB took the 5th on every question during prelim.


Other facts that came out (from chat transcripts and other things referred to by both sides)

- CB and JR communicated using Fetlife and Telegram.
- JR brought up the idea of bringing a knife, CB asked about the details.
- They discussed blood play (cutting)
- CB asked JR, "Do you still want to tear off my clothes? I have a set of old pajamas you can tear"
- A set of ripped pajamas was recovered from the scene
- Pics of a knife, ropes, chains, rubber restraints were sent by JR to CB
- CB took selfie in a bathing suit and sent to husband. A few hours later sent the same selfie to JR with caption: "I sent this to my husband and he didn't even notice I lost 20 pounds"
- Judge questioned about the 45 min phone call over telegram that occurred between CB and JR
- After the phone call, JR texted: "It was great hearing your sexy voice"
- JR wrote that he had only done blood play once before, with razor blades
- CB had several superficial cuts that barely broke the skin
- JR was in the process of cutting CB with BB walked in
- CB wrote "trip to the zoo" on calendar
- CB had multiple lacerations to her neck and carotid artery. Three lacerations to the right side of her neck were the most likely the cause of death
- In the second 911 call, (mentioned but not played) BB is trying to save CB's life by applying pressure

Judge's Decision
Denied bond for two reasons.
- First, that FCPD could lose jurisdiction/control if the Feds take custody and/or deport
- Second, that AP could still pose a risk to community.

This is wild. Still doesn’t prove anything, but it’s looking more likely that CB was talking to JR. If removing pajamas were actually discussed in the chat, and then found in the house. That seems waaay too specific.

And mentioning her husband didn’t notice her. Only a woman would think of writing something like that. Sounds like their marriage was falling apart.

Funny, I thought it sounded like something a man would think a woman would say!! No woman wants to talk about her dud husband with a lover.

SAME To the last PP. It sounded so cliché -- like something a guy would say if trying to be a woman. That alone made me suspicious. A woman who is looking to hook up with a guy is not going to be crying and complaining about how her husband doesn't notice her.... why would she care!??? She's busy working out another arrangement!

Exactly!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP had a bond hearing on Tuesday.
Here is what happened.

Defense and Prosecutor entered several pieces of evidence. Including:
- A copy of the chats between CB and JR was entered under seal
- Multiple pictures of the scene were entered, many under seal.

Defense's Argument

- Prosecutor previously "misstated" that AP had bought plane tickets using her passport.
- She actually had used to apply for a work visa and student visa. AP was legally in the country at the time of her arrest with no intention of leaving.
- Prosecutor has not provided any actual evidence of a conspiracy. Just public statements.
- AP was actively dating multiple people, did not deny relationship with BB during police interview, but mentioned she was dating several people.
- Prosecutor overstated extent of JR's incapacitation from first shot. The Medical Examiner stated that there was possibility that JR could see and move.


Prosecutor's Argument

- Prosecutor surprised Defense with a document showing that ICE has asked to be notified if she is release from custody, and they have a warrant for her. He is afraid that if she is released and ends up in federal custody, they will deport her.
- Prosecutor stated that there is no extradition treaty with Brazil, and that the Feds do not have to acknowledge the case's priority. Feds could just deport AP and then the state of VA has no control.
- Prosecutor also argued that she is manipulative and can be manipulated, and therefore still a danger.
- Displayed a picture of JR's body. JR was clutching his stomach on his back
- Mainly re-iterated things said previously at preliminary hearing.
- Mentioned that BB took the 5th on every question during prelim.


Other facts that came out (from chat transcripts and other things referred to by both sides)

- CB and JR communicated using Fetlife and Telegram.
- JR brought up the idea of bringing a knife, CB asked about the details.
- They discussed blood play (cutting)
- CB asked JR, "Do you still want to tear off my clothes? I have a set of old pajamas you can tear"
- A set of ripped pajamas was recovered from the scene
- Pics of a knife, ropes, chains, rubber restraints were sent by JR to CB
- CB took selfie in a bathing suit and sent to husband. A few hours later sent the same selfie to JR with caption: "I sent this to my husband and he didn't even notice I lost 20 pounds"
- Judge questioned about the 45 min phone call over telegram that occurred between CB and JR
- After the phone call, JR texted: "It was great hearing your sexy voice"
- JR wrote that he had only done blood play once before, with razor blades
- CB had several superficial cuts that barely broke the skin
- JR was in the process of cutting CB with BB walked in
- CB wrote "trip to the zoo" on calendar
- CB had multiple lacerations to her neck and carotid artery. Three lacerations to the right side of her neck were the most likely the cause of death
- In the second 911 call, (mentioned but not played) BB is trying to save CB's life by applying pressure

Judge's Decision
Denied bond for two reasons.
- First, that FCPD could lose jurisdiction/control if the Feds take custody and/or deport
- Second, that AP could still pose a risk to community.

This is wild. Still doesn’t prove anything, but it’s looking more likely that CB was talking to JR. If removing pajamas were actually discussed in the chat, and then found in the house. That seems waaay too specific.

And mentioning her husband didn’t notice her. Only a woman would think of writing something like that. Sounds like their marriage was falling apart.

Funny, I thought it sounded like something a man would think a woman would say!! No woman wants to talk about her dud husband with a lover.

SAME To the last PP. It sounded so cliché -- like something a guy would say if trying to be a woman. That alone made me suspicious. A woman who is looking to hook up with a guy is not going to be crying and complaining about how her husband doesn't notice her.... why would she care!??? She's busy working out another arrangement!

You guys are tripping lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP had a bond hearing on Tuesday.
Here is what happened.

Defense and Prosecutor entered several pieces of evidence. Including:
- A copy of the chats between CB and JR was entered under seal
- Multiple pictures of the scene were entered, many under seal.

Defense's Argument

- Prosecutor previously "misstated" that AP had bought plane tickets using her passport.
- She actually had used to apply for a work visa and student visa. AP was legally in the country at the time of her arrest with no intention of leaving.
- Prosecutor has not provided any actual evidence of a conspiracy. Just public statements.
- AP was actively dating multiple people, did not deny relationship with BB during police interview, but mentioned she was dating several people.
- Prosecutor overstated extent of JR's incapacitation from first shot. The Medical Examiner stated that there was possibility that JR could see and move.


Prosecutor's Argument

- Prosecutor surprised Defense with a document showing that ICE has asked to be notified if she is release from custody, and they have a warrant for her. He is afraid that if she is released and ends up in federal custody, they will deport her.
- Prosecutor stated that there is no extradition treaty with Brazil, and that the Feds do not have to acknowledge the case's priority. Feds could just deport AP and then the state of VA has no control.
- Prosecutor also argued that she is manipulative and can be manipulated, and therefore still a danger.
- Displayed a picture of JR's body. JR was clutching his stomach on his back
- Mainly re-iterated things said previously at preliminary hearing.
- Mentioned that BB took the 5th on every question during prelim.


Other facts that came out (from chat transcripts and other things referred to by both sides)

- CB and JR communicated using Fetlife and Telegram.
- JR brought up the idea of bringing a knife, CB asked about the details.
- They discussed blood play (cutting)
- CB asked JR, "Do you still want to tear off my clothes? I have a set of old pajamas you can tear"
- A set of ripped pajamas was recovered from the scene
- Pics of a knife, ropes, chains, rubber restraints were sent by JR to CB
- CB took selfie in a bathing suit and sent to husband. A few hours later sent the same selfie to JR with caption: "I sent this to my husband and he didn't even notice I lost 20 pounds"
- Judge questioned about the 45 min phone call over telegram that occurred between CB and JR
- After the phone call, JR texted: "It was great hearing your sexy voice"
- JR wrote that he had only done blood play once before, with razor blades
- CB had several superficial cuts that barely broke the skin
- JR was in the process of cutting CB with BB walked in
- CB wrote "trip to the zoo" on calendar
- CB had multiple lacerations to her neck and carotid artery. Three lacerations to the right side of her neck were the most likely the cause of death
- In the second 911 call, (mentioned but not played) BB is trying to save CB's life by applying pressure

Judge's Decision
Denied bond for two reasons.
- First, that FCPD could lose jurisdiction/control if the Feds take custody and/or deport
- Second, that AP could still pose a risk to community.

This is wild. Still doesn’t prove anything, but it’s looking more likely that CB was talking to JR. If removing pajamas were actually discussed in the chat, and then found in the house. That seems waaay too specific.

And mentioning her husband didn’t notice her. Only a woman would think of writing something like that. Sounds like their marriage was falling apart.

Funny, I thought it sounded like something a man would think a woman would say!! No woman wants to talk about her dud husband with a lover.

SAME To the last PP. It sounded so cliché -- like something a guy would say if trying to be a woman. That alone made me suspicious. A woman who is looking to hook up with a guy is not going to be crying and complaining about how her husband doesn't notice her.... why would she care!??? She's busy working out another arrangement!

You guys are tripping lol

You must be a man!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I believe the only smart thing that bb did was stfu. It doesn’t matter how suspicious police /da are of your actions. The only thing that matters if the case can be proven brd.

Agree. Proving he is the stabber brd without AP will be difficult.

But if he was, there should be evidence, no? Easy for me to say as the armchair forensics expert (ahem), but I did not think it was difficult to identify stabbers, especially when le is immediately on the scene.

This is exactly what I have been wondering- and wondering if I have missed any reported forensic detail. I agree that I assumed that forensics would have pretty easily been able to show who likely did the stabbing, especially as the scene was observed immediately. This to me seems like the most obvious indicator in the whole thing. The blood residue, knife, etc.

[Anonymous]

The last few days have been filled with details that support CB planning the rendezvous with Joe. It is very interesting to see the BB haters twist themselves in knots as more and more evidence comes out supporting the fact that CB was having an affair/hookup and initiated contact with Joe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I believe the only smart thing that bb did was stfu. It doesn’t matter how suspicious police /da are of your actions. The only thing that matters if the case can be proven brd.

Agree. Proving he is the stabber brd without AP will be difficult.

But if he was, there should be evidence, no? Easy for me to say as the armchair forensics expert (ahem), but I did not think it was difficult to identify stabbers, especially when le is immediately on the scene.

This is exactly what I have been wondering- and wondering if I have missed any reported forensic detail. I agree that I assumed that forensics would have pretty easily been able to show who likely did the stabbing, especially as the scene was observed immediately. This to me seems like the most obvious indicator in the whole thing. The blood residue, knife, etc.

At the very least, it will be interesting to find out if the knife came from the house, Joe's house, unknown and whose prints were on the knife.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The last few days have been filled with details that support CB planning the rendezvous with Joe. It is very interesting to see the BB haters twist themselves in knots as more and more evidence comes out supporting the fact that CB was having an affair/hookup and initiated contact with Joe.

You are living in an alternate universe. Reality is quite the opposite.