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| I would be happy sending my high stats kid to Syracuse or Clemson. I don’t know as much about Elon, but I’m sure my kid would be successful graduating from there as well. |
UGA OOS will look better than Clemson OOS. Both schools have missions to educate instate (unlike UVA or W&M) which will pull down overall numbers |
Because admission rates have little to do with the quality of the scholarship and teaching at the school or the overall feel. If you base your beliefs about the fit and quality of the school based solely on these rates, then you are the one that will be missing out on many, many great schools. |
Those are percentage of people submitting test scores not acceptance rates |
| I have a kid at Syracuse. It was his safety but they offered him a ton of merit aid and he was attracted to the alumni network and prestige of Newhouse where he is a student. I have been very impressed by his education. It’s very career focused so he is really learning career skills that are great to have on a resume. |
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Proud Elon alum here. Had a fantastic four years, made lifelong friends, studied abroad twice, price was reasonable against my state school (UMass), saw a different part of the country. Nearly 20 years out (ouch) and will champion the school every chance I get.
Apologies to OP for taking up space on the planet even though I didn't go to an Ivy. |
| OK, OP, what does this forum say it takes to get into UVA? Do you think students from VA attending Clemson are passing up UVA, or do you suppose that, just perhaps, they had an imperfect GPA? |
| It's tougher to get into Clemson and Syracuse than Tulane ED. |
+2 If you have 2 or 3 B+s on your transcript in FCPS, despite taking 10 APs, you will not be getting into UVA. However, you have a pretty good chance of getting into Clemson. |
| Why is it so hard for the rankings obsessed people to process that not everyone focuses on rankings? The three schools mentioned have hugely loyal alumni groups and many people see them as places to get a solid education while having a great time, and finding gainful employment after graduation. |
Exactly. Schools like Clemson, etc. are cleaning up on high stats kids who didn't get in elsewhere due to overfocus on GPA perfection and underfocus on test scores, and then got donut-holed for cost at not-quite-top privates. Clemson's 75th percentile is 1400, a decent number of kids with decent scores >1400. Clemson has more test-submitters than Vandy, for pete's sake, though Vandy historically loved its high-scorers and obviously has a much higher score range and super low acceptance rate. |
| Syracuse has a loyal alumni base and strong networking especially in the Acela corridor (Boston to DC). In addition to a strong journalism school, it also has a top tier program for those interested in international relations/national security (Maxwell). |
| My kid recently graduated from a private university in a similar vein as the ones mentioned here, with a degree in accounting. Loved every minute of it and said he'd do it all over again! The bonus, it came with merit - it was a bargain. |
Dp, I agree. Posters seem not to realize the harder it gets to be admitted to the T20, the harder it gets to be admitted to the rest of the name schools. Some will learn the hard way in just a few months. |
| because people like you are not around those schools. People enjoy college, have fun, they are happy, they are not caught up in what people think, |