Clemson? Syracuse? Elon? Why?

Anonymous
I would be happy sending my high stats kid to Syracuse or Clemson. I don’t know as much about Elon, but I’m sure my kid would be successful graduating from there as well.
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Anonymous wrote:Clemson: 1320 | 60% submitting
Syracuse: 1340 | 33% submitting
Elon: 1230 | 51% submitting

Why are these schools talked about so much on this forum? They seem pretty unremarkable, not terrible and not that great. What gives?


They are used as targets for those with 1280-1350, commonly because Uva and WM in state are reaches and they do not want JMU/CNU. clemson/UGA Syracuse/Elon are reaches for those below 1250. They are likelies for those with 1450+ and commonly not even considered for those close to the top of the class with 1530+, who grind for T10. Who cares? Focus on the right schools for your kid. There is nothing wrong with any of these schools if the fit your kid. They are all good schools in the general landscape of all 2000 colleges in the US. They are likely poor fits for someone who would truly thrive in an ivy/stanford/Duke environment. YMMV.


UGA? No way. Have you looked at the numbers needed to get into UGA?


Right. UGA is a whole different beast.

Clemson was a likely for my kid and one they would seriously attend. They loved their visit and have heard great things from students who attend. Don’t forget, there are high achievers at schools outside the top 10.


The. UGA enrolled data will not be that different from Clemson. UGA accepts a lot of high stats kids, particularly in EA, but most don’t enroll.


UGA OOS will look better than Clemson OOS. Both schools have missions to educate instate (unlike UVA or W&M) which will pull down overall numbers
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Clemson: 1320 | 60% submitting
Syracuse: 1340 | 33% submitting
Elon: 1230 | 51% submitting

Why are these schools talked about so much on this forum? They seem pretty unremarkable, not terrible and not that great. What gives?


Because admission rates have little to do with the quality of the scholarship and teaching at the school or the overall feel. If you base your beliefs about the fit and quality of the school based solely on these rates, then you are the one that will be missing out on many, many great schools.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Clemson: 1320 | 60% submitting
Syracuse: 1340 | 33% submitting
Elon: 1230 | 51% submitting

Why are these schools talked about so much on this forum? They seem pretty unremarkable, not terrible and not that great. What gives?


Because admission rates have little to do with the quality of the scholarship and teaching at the school or the overall feel. If you base your beliefs about the fit and quality of the school based solely on these rates, then you are the one that will be missing out on many, many great schools.

Those are percentage of people submitting test scores not acceptance rates
Anonymous
I have a kid at Syracuse. It was his safety but they offered him a ton of merit aid and he was attracted to the alumni network and prestige of Newhouse where he is a student. I have been very impressed by his education. It’s very career focused so he is really learning career skills that are great to have on a resume.
Anonymous
Proud Elon alum here. Had a fantastic four years, made lifelong friends, studied abroad twice, price was reasonable against my state school (UMass), saw a different part of the country. Nearly 20 years out (ouch) and will champion the school every chance I get.

Apologies to OP for taking up space on the planet even though I didn't go to an Ivy.
Anonymous
OK, OP, what does this forum say it takes to get into UVA? Do you think students from VA attending Clemson are passing up UVA, or do you suppose that, just perhaps, they had an imperfect GPA?
Anonymous
It's tougher to get into Clemson and Syracuse than Tulane ED.
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Anonymous wrote:OK, OP, what does this forum say it takes to get into UVA? Do you think students from VA attending Clemson are passing up UVA, or do you suppose that, just perhaps, they had an imperfect GPA?


+2 If you have 2 or 3 B+s on your transcript in FCPS, despite taking 10 APs, you will not be getting into UVA. However, you have a pretty good chance of getting into Clemson.
Anonymous
Why is it so hard for the rankings obsessed people to process that not everyone focuses on rankings? The three schools mentioned have hugely loyal alumni groups and many people see them as places to get a solid education while having a great time, and finding gainful employment after graduation.
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Anonymous wrote:OK, OP, what does this forum say it takes to get into UVA? Do you think students from VA attending Clemson are passing up UVA, or do you suppose that, just perhaps, they had an imperfect GPA?


+2 If you have 2 or 3 B+s on your transcript in FCPS, despite taking 10 APs, you will not be getting into UVA. However, you have a pretty good chance of getting into Clemson.

Exactly.

Schools like Clemson, etc. are cleaning up on high stats kids who didn't get in elsewhere due to overfocus on GPA perfection and underfocus on test scores, and then got donut-holed for cost at not-quite-top privates. Clemson's 75th percentile is 1400, a decent number of kids with decent scores >1400. Clemson has more test-submitters than Vandy, for pete's sake, though Vandy historically loved its high-scorers and obviously has a much higher score range and super low acceptance rate.
Anonymous
Syracuse has a loyal alumni base and strong networking especially in the Acela corridor (Boston to DC). In addition to a strong journalism school, it also has a top tier program for those interested in international relations/national security (Maxwell).
Anonymous
My kid recently graduated from a private university in a similar vein as the ones mentioned here, with a degree in accounting. Loved every minute of it and said he'd do it all over again! The bonus, it came with merit - it was a bargain.
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Anonymous wrote:It's tougher to get into Clemson and Syracuse than Tulane ED.

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Dp, I agree. Posters seem not to realize the harder it gets to be admitted to the T20, the harder it gets to be admitted to the rest of the name schools. Some will learn the hard way in just a few months.
Anonymous
because people like you are not around those schools. People enjoy college, have fun, they are happy, they are not caught up in what people think,
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