Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Over and over again, the motive points to Israel



He stepped out of line with Israel.


Bigot much?
I can't see how jumping to "maybe the jews did it" this early with such little information is anything but bigoted.


He himself said he feared Israel might kill him. So this isn't about me or "bigotry." Try to keep up and pay better attention.
Most of the world is against Israel right now. This guy's single voice isn't worth a mossad operation. The Epstein angle on the other hand....


I really don’t understand the Epstein angle. It makes you guys sound crazy.
Then your being willfully ignorant that the most powerful man in the entire world is under threat of being canceled due to his friendship with a known pedophile.

But Charlie Kirk wouldn’t be the one to kill. Who was he? I don’t even know. That is how influential Charlie Kirk was. Sorry but he wasn’t important enough to assassinate.
Yes he is because he was the one who brought up the topic, when he called for the release of all government files related to Jeffrey Epstein.

But who was listening to him other than radical right wing white young white males? Who else knew of his existence really?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Over and over again, the motive points to Israel



He stepped out of line with Israel.


Bigot much?
I can't see how jumping to "maybe the jews did it" this early with such little information is anything but bigoted.


He himself said he feared Israel might kill him. So this isn't about me or "bigotry." Try to keep up and pay better attention.
Most of the world is against Israel right now. This guy's single voice isn't worth a mossad operation. The Epstein angle on the other hand....


I really don’t understand the Epstein angle. It makes you guys sound crazy.
Then your being willfully ignorant that the most powerful man in the entire world is under threat of being canceled due to his friendship with a known pedophile.

But Charlie Kirk wouldn’t be the one to kill. Who was he? I don’t even know. That is how influential Charlie Kirk was. Sorry but he wasn’t important enough to assassinate.
Yes he is because he was the one who brought up the topic, when he called for the release of all government files related to Jeffrey Epstein.

But who was listening to him other than radical right wing white young white males? Who else knew of his existence really?


No one.
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Anonymous wrote:I think many of you leftists have no idea why Kirk's assassination has turned into such a big deal.

Kirk was doing it "the right way" according to the left. Disagree politely, listen, give the other side space.

And he was killed because leftists didn't like what he had to say (as this thread amply shows) and they didn't want him to keep saying it.

Lots and lots of the "Democrat base" are celebrating and cheering the deliberate murder of someone who had the guts to publicly disagree with the left. "Debate this!" I see the signs being posted on college campuses, with a drawing of Kirk bleeding out from his neck.

So.

What value is there is "peace" and "restraint" when leftists murdered the most prominent guy on the right who was all about peace and restraint? And celebrate his death?

If you leftists are so glad to see Kirk killed... well, there's no possibility of peace, is there. He WAS the "peaceful solution". And leftists murdered him for it. Or at least are very happy about it.

If Kirk is not acceptable to the left.... we all know you guys would GLADLY kill the rest of us, too.

Kirk was a sort of "ambassador" to the left... and he was murdered because of it. What happens when an ambassador is killed? That's a casus belli and has been since Ghengis Khan, at the very least.


I don’t appreciate the broad generalization happening here. First off, this person probably worked alone, 75 million people and or anyone official is involved here. I have no control over what others say or do. And I think “lots” is an exaggeration. The celebrators are a minority amongst a large group of people.


It's been less than 24 hours since he was killed, and I've already seen coworkers, people just out in public - and certainly a lot of people on this very board, openly cheering that he was killed.

I think you're wrong in thinking that this is a 'small' segment of people on the left. I wasn't even looking, and saw dozens of examples of it, less than a day after he was killed.

I didn't agree with much of anything Charlie Kirk said. But first and foremost, he was a human being, with a wife and two young kids that will now grow up without a father. I'm deeply disappointed and kind of shocked by my own political party at the moment. There's some sickening stuff being said on reddit/bluesky/twitter, and it's not even been a day.


I am not seeing anyone at all cheering. I am seeing people respond to his death in the exact same way he responded to other deaths. I am seeing people quote him word for word and then being told they are sick for making such comments.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think many of you leftists have no idea why Kirk's assassination has turned into such a big deal.

Kirk was doing it "the right way" according to the left. Disagree politely, listen, give the other side space.

And he was killed because leftists didn't like what he had to say (as this thread amply shows) and they didn't want him to keep saying it.

Lots and lots of the "Democrat base" are celebrating and cheering the deliberate murder of someone who had the guts to publicly disagree with the left. "Debate this!" I see the signs being posted on college campuses, with a drawing of Kirk bleeding out from his neck.

So.

What value is there is "peace" and "restraint" when leftists murdered the most prominent guy on the right who was all about peace and restraint? And celebrate his death?

If you leftists are so glad to see Kirk killed... well, there's no possibility of peace, is there. He WAS the "peaceful solution". And leftists murdered him for it. Or at least are very happy about it.

If Kirk is not acceptable to the left.... we all know you guys would GLADLY kill the rest of us, too.

Kirk was a sort of "ambassador" to the left... and he was murdered because of it. What happens when an ambassador is killed? That's a casus belli and has been since Ghengis Khan, at the very least.


I don’t appreciate the broad generalization happening here. First off, this person probably worked alone, 75 million people and or anyone official is involved here. I have no control over what others say or do. And I think “lots” is an exaggeration. The celebrators are a minority amongst a large group of people.


It's been less than 24 hours since he was killed, and I've already seen coworkers, people just out in public - and certainly a lot of people on this very board, openly cheering that he was killed.

I think you're wrong in thinking that this is a 'small' segment of people on the left. I wasn't even looking, and saw dozens of examples of it, less than a day after he was killed.

I didn't agree with much of anything Charlie Kirk said. But first and foremost, he was a human being, with a wife and two young kids that will now grow up without a father. I'm deeply disappointed and kind of shocked by my own political party at the moment. There's some sickening stuff being said on reddit/bluesky/twitter, and it's not even been a day.


I am not seeing anyone at all cheering. I am seeing people respond to his death in the exact same way he responded to other deaths. I am seeing people quote him word for word and then being told they are sick for making such comments.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think many of you leftists have no idea why Kirk's assassination has turned into such a big deal.

Kirk was doing it "the right way" according to the left. Disagree politely, listen, give the other side space.

And he was killed because leftists didn't like what he had to say (as this thread amply shows) and they didn't want him to keep saying it.

Lots and lots of the "Democrat base" are celebrating and cheering the deliberate murder of someone who had the guts to publicly disagree with the left. "Debate this!" I see the signs being posted on college campuses, with a drawing of Kirk bleeding out from his neck.

So.

What value is there is "peace" and "restraint" when leftists murdered the most prominent guy on the right who was all about peace and restraint? And celebrate his death?

If you leftists are so glad to see Kirk killed... well, there's no possibility of peace, is there. He WAS the "peaceful solution". And leftists murdered him for it. Or at least are very happy about it.

If Kirk is not acceptable to the left.... we all know you guys would GLADLY kill the rest of us, too.

Kirk was a sort of "ambassador" to the left... and he was murdered because of it. What happens when an ambassador is killed? That's a casus belli and has been since Ghengis Khan, at the very least.


I don’t appreciate the broad generalization happening here. First off, this person probably worked alone, 75 million people and or anyone official is involved here. I have no control over what others say or do. And I think “lots” is an exaggeration. The celebrators are a minority amongst a large group of people.


It's been less than 24 hours since he was killed, and I've already seen coworkers, people just out in public - and certainly a lot of people on this very board, openly cheering that he was killed.

I think you're wrong in thinking that this is a 'small' segment of people on the left. I wasn't even looking, and saw dozens of examples of it, less than a day after he was killed.

I didn't agree with much of anything Charlie Kirk said. But first and foremost, he was a human being, with a wife and two young kids that will now grow up without a father. I'm deeply disappointed and kind of shocked by my own political party at the moment. There's some sickening stuff being said on reddit/bluesky/twitter, and it's not even been a day.


I am not seeing anyone at all cheering. I am seeing people respond to his death in the exact same way he responded to other deaths. I am seeing people quote him word for word and then being told they are sick for making such comments.


Oh, I’m seeing weird cheering in hysteria from ultra left-wing crazies. The people on the far left can be as crazy as the people on the far right
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Over and over again, the motive points to Israel



He stepped out of line with Israel.


Bigot much?
I can't see how jumping to "maybe the jews did it" this early with such little information is anything but bigoted.


He himself said he feared Israel might kill him. So this isn't about me or "bigotry." Try to keep up and pay better attention.
Most of the world is against Israel right now. This guy's single voice isn't worth a mossad operation. The Epstein angle on the other hand....


I really don’t understand the Epstein angle. It makes you guys sound crazy.
Then your being willfully ignorant that the most powerful man in the entire world is under threat of being canceled due to his friendship with a known pedophile.

But Charlie Kirk wouldn’t be the one to kill. Who was he? I don’t even know. That is how influential Charlie Kirk was. Sorry but he wasn’t important enough to assassinate.
Yes he is because he was the one who brought up the topic, when he called for the release of all government files related to Jeffrey Epstein.

But who was listening to him other than radical right wing white young white males? Who else knew of his existence really?

Here's the recent timeline of the Epstein story:
On July 7, 2025 Pam Bondi declared she would not release additional Epstein files following a Department of Justice memo which announced that no further disclosures would be warranted.

That weekend there was a Turning Point conference where Charlie Kirk stoked the fires to release the files.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-faces-revolt-maga-base-epstein-files-rcna218385

My guess is MTG and others are going to quiet down about the Epstein files now.
jsteele
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At some point today it will become permissible to post negative statements about Kirk. I am not sure what time exactly the embargo will be lifted, but try to be patient for a few hours.
Anonymous
In case you were wondering why the incorrect rumor of “trans activist” and “fascist symbols” on ammo started, it’s because arrows and initials are common ways manufacturers stamp ammo.

Including “TRN” the ironsight and a direction broad arrow.
https://bsky.app/profile/adamscochran.bsky.social/post/3lylxb2o7dc2a
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Anonymous wrote:In case you were wondering why the incorrect rumor of “trans activist” and “fascist symbols” on ammo started, it’s because arrows and initials are common ways manufacturers stamp ammo.

Including “TRN” the ironsight and a direction broad arrow.
https://bsky.app/profile/adamscochran.bsky.social/post/3lylxb2o7dc2a


This was really irresponsible reporting. I am a fan of WSJ, but they put this on their front page. Egregious and now conspiracy theorists will never believe anything else.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In case you were wondering why the incorrect rumor of “trans activist” and “fascist symbols” on ammo started, it’s because arrows and initials are common ways manufacturers stamp ammo.

Including “TRN” the ironsight and a direction broad arrow.
https://bsky.app/profile/adamscochran.bsky.social/post/3lylxb2o7dc2a


Are you trying to tell us that hearsay on Louder with Crowder was not a legitimate source?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In case you were wondering why the incorrect rumor of “trans activist” and “fascist symbols” on ammo started, it’s because arrows and initials are common ways manufacturers stamp ammo.

Including “TRN” the ironsight and a direction broad arrow.
https://bsky.app/profile/adamscochran.bsky.social/post/3lylxb2o7dc2a


Kash Patel’s FBI everybody!
Anonymous
To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In case you were wondering why the incorrect rumor of “trans activist” and “fascist symbols” on ammo started, it’s because arrows and initials are common ways manufacturers stamp ammo.

Including “TRN” the ironsight and a direction broad arrow.
https://bsky.app/profile/adamscochran.bsky.social/post/3lylxb2o7dc2a


This illustrates just how desperately the right wing is trying to create a specific narrative here. Anyone who knows anything about guns, which presumably includes the ATF agent who wrote the report, knows about headstamps on ammunition. No agent would draw any conclusion from those markings and I’m confident the report didn’t contain any such conclusion. Which means Crowder either doesn’t know ANYTHING about guns or he’s willfully distorting the contents of the report.
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