Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Just a side note, and I’m sure not rooting for criminals - but wtf is with criminals taking their cell phone along for the crime????? Haven’t we all learned by now that you can’t evade the geofence of cell phone pings? It’s a spy in your pocket and the law allows generous access to the network to find you, all admissible in court.

Also latex gloves are dirt cheap and come in flesh color or even clear to show your own skin tone. Why would any self respecting wannabe evil genius skip the gloves???

When I was a prosecutor I was always grateful for the dopey antics of criminals. They will most likely catch this guy soon.

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He was smart enough to walk off instead of run. The jump was a chaotic way to get down but it seems like he thought it out. They are probably going to get video of him casing the place at an earlier time.

Maybe he was a student there.


It’s possible but unlikely. I think this person is a mentally unstable individual who put a tremendous amount of time and energy to prepare for this.

He is not a professional by any means but has researched enough to slip away without leaving something that will easily identify him.

If he was a student it would be likely faculty or another student would have recognized him.

There is a possibility they know who he is but don’t want to release too much right now because they want to take him alive and find out if he acted alone or had help.

He could live off campus and commute.

From what I can tell everyone there lives off campus and commutes.

Okay then even easier to commit a murder and not be easily recognizable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Zero gun control.



Without gun control more people will get shot, just like Charlie did.

People can open carry on this campus and any other campus in Utah.
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Anonymous wrote:Just a side note, and I’m sure not rooting for criminals - but wtf is with criminals taking their cell phone along for the crime????? Haven’t we all learned by now that you can’t evade the geofence of cell phone pings? It’s a spy in your pocket and the law allows generous access to the network to find you, all admissible in court.

Also latex gloves are dirt cheap and come in flesh color or even clear to show your own skin tone. Why would any self respecting wannabe evil genius skip the gloves???

When I was a prosecutor I was always grateful for the dopey antics of criminals. They will most likely catch this guy soon.


He wanted to blend in, wearing latex gloves wouldn’t be blending in. He knew he has no record so no dna to ID him. How do we know he had his cell phone on him?
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Anonymous wrote:Just a side note, and I’m sure not rooting for criminals - but wtf is with criminals taking their cell phone along for the crime????? Haven’t we all learned by now that you can’t evade the geofence of cell phone pings? It’s a spy in your pocket and the law allows generous access to the network to find you, all admissible in court.

Also latex gloves are dirt cheap and come in flesh color or even clear to show your own skin tone. Why would any self respecting wannabe evil genius skip the gloves???

When I was a prosecutor I was always grateful for the dopey antics of criminals. They will most likely catch this guy soon.



I do not believe he was a professional but I would be surprised if he has a cell phone on his person that was his.

For the amount of planning and preparation he did, some other things I won’t call out that have been mentioned previously, I would assume he knew better than to bring a personal cell phone with him that can be tracked back to him.
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Y’all are starting to sound a little nutty
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Anonymous wrote:Just a side note, and I’m sure not rooting for criminals - but wtf is with criminals taking their cell phone along for the crime????? Haven’t we all learned by now that you can’t evade the geofence of cell phone pings? It’s a spy in your pocket and the law allows generous access to the network to find you, all admissible in court.

Also latex gloves are dirt cheap and come in flesh color or even clear to show your own skin tone. Why would any self respecting wannabe evil genius skip the gloves???

When I was a prosecutor I was always grateful for the dopey antics of criminals. They will most likely catch this guy soon.



I do not believe he was a professional but I would be surprised if he has a cell phone on his person that was his.

For the amount of planning and preparation he did, some other things I won’t call out that have been mentioned previously, I would assume he knew better than to bring a personal cell phone with him that can be tracked back to him.

If he was a student there his cell phone would ping there.
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Anonymous wrote:Over and over again, the motive points to Israel



He stepped out of line with Israel.


Bigot much?
I can't see how jumping to "maybe the jews did it" this early with such little information is anything but bigoted.


He himself said he feared Israel might kill him. So this isn't about me or "bigotry." Try to keep up and pay better attention.
Most of the world is against Israel right now. This guy's single voice isn't worth a mossad operation. The Epstein angle on the other hand....


I really don’t understand the Epstein angle. It makes you guys sound crazy.
Then your being willfully ignorant that the most powerful man in the entire world is under threat of being canceled due to his friendship with a known pedophile.
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Anonymous wrote:Over and over again, the motive points to Israel



He stepped out of line with Israel.


Bigot much?
I can't see how jumping to "maybe the jews did it" this early with such little information is anything but bigoted.


He himself said he feared Israel might kill him. So this isn't about me or "bigotry." Try to keep up and pay better attention.
Most of the world is against Israel right now. This guy's single voice isn't worth a mossad operation. The Epstein angle on the other hand....


I really don’t understand the Epstein angle. It makes you guys sound crazy.
Then your being willfully ignorant that the most powerful man in the entire world is under threat of being canceled due to his friendship with a known pedophile.

But Charlie Kirk wouldn’t be the one to kill. Who was he? I don’t even know. That is how influential Charlie Kirk was. Sorry but he wasn’t important enough to assassinate.
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Anonymous wrote:I think many of you leftists have no idea why Kirk's assassination has turned into such a big deal.

Kirk was doing it "the right way" according to the left. Disagree politely, listen, give the other side space.

And he was killed because leftists didn't like what he had to say (as this thread amply shows) and they didn't want him to keep saying it.

Lots and lots of the "Democrat base" are celebrating and cheering the deliberate murder of someone who had the guts to publicly disagree with the left. "Debate this!" I see the signs being posted on college campuses, with a drawing of Kirk bleeding out from his neck.

So.

What value is there is "peace" and "restraint" when leftists murdered the most prominent guy on the right who was all about peace and restraint? And celebrate his death?

If you leftists are so glad to see Kirk killed... well, there's no possibility of peace, is there. He WAS the "peaceful solution". And leftists murdered him for it. Or at least are very happy about it.

If Kirk is not acceptable to the left.... we all know you guys would GLADLY kill the rest of us, too.

Kirk was a sort of "ambassador" to the left... and he was murdered because of it. What happens when an ambassador is killed? That's a casus belli and has been since Ghengis Khan, at the very least.


I don’t appreciate the broad generalization happening here. First off, this person probably worked alone, 75 million people and or anyone official is involved here. I have no control over what others say or do. And I think “lots” is an exaggeration. The celebrators are a minority amongst a large group of people.


It's been less than 24 hours since he was killed, and I've already seen coworkers, people just out in public - and certainly a lot of people on this very board, openly cheering that he was killed.

I think you're wrong in thinking that this is a 'small' segment of people on the left. I wasn't even looking, and saw dozens of examples of it, less than a day after he was killed.

I didn't agree with much of anything Charlie Kirk said. But first and foremost, he was a human being, with a wife and two young kids that will now grow up without a father. I'm deeply disappointed and kind of shocked by my own political party at the moment. There's some sickening stuff being said on reddit/bluesky/twitter, and it's not even been a day.
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Anonymous wrote:Over and over again, the motive points to Israel



He stepped out of line with Israel.


Bigot much?
I can't see how jumping to "maybe the jews did it" this early with such little information is anything but bigoted.


He himself said he feared Israel might kill him. So this isn't about me or "bigotry." Try to keep up and pay better attention.
Most of the world is against Israel right now. This guy's single voice isn't worth a mossad operation. The Epstein angle on the other hand....


I really don’t understand the Epstein angle. It makes you guys sound crazy.
Then your being willfully ignorant that the most powerful man in the entire world is under threat of being canceled due to his friendship with a known pedophile.

But Charlie Kirk wouldn’t be the one to kill. Who was he? I don’t even know. That is how influential Charlie Kirk was. Sorry but he wasn’t important enough to assassinate.
Yes he is because he was the one who brought up the topic, when he called for the release of all government files related to Jeffrey Epstein.
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Anonymous wrote:I think many of you leftists have no idea why Kirk's assassination has turned into such a big deal.

Kirk was doing it "the right way" according to the left. Disagree politely, listen, give the other side space.

And he was killed because leftists didn't like what he had to say (as this thread amply shows) and they didn't want him to keep saying it.

Lots and lots of the "Democrat base" are celebrating and cheering the deliberate murder of someone who had the guts to publicly disagree with the left. "Debate this!" I see the signs being posted on college campuses, with a drawing of Kirk bleeding out from his neck.

So.

What value is there is "peace" and "restraint" when leftists murdered the most prominent guy on the right who was all about peace and restraint? And celebrate his death?

If you leftists are so glad to see Kirk killed... well, there's no possibility of peace, is there. He WAS the "peaceful solution". And leftists murdered him for it. Or at least are very happy about it.

If Kirk is not acceptable to the left.... we all know you guys would GLADLY kill the rest of us, too.

Kirk was a sort of "ambassador" to the left... and he was murdered because of it. What happens when an ambassador is killed? That's a casus belli and has been since Ghengis Khan, at the very least.


I don’t appreciate the broad generalization happening here. First off, this person probably worked alone, 75 million people and or anyone official is involved here. I have no control over what others say or do. And I think “lots” is an exaggeration. The celebrators are a minority amongst a large group of people.


It's been less than 24 hours since he was killed, and I've already seen coworkers, people just out in public - and certainly a lot of people on this very board, openly cheering that he was killed.

I think you're wrong in thinking that this is a 'small' segment of people on the left. I wasn't even looking, and saw dozens of examples of it, less than a day after he was killed.

I didn't agree with much of anything Charlie Kirk said. But first and foremost, he was a human being, with a wife and two young kids that will now grow up without a father. I'm deeply disappointed and kind of shocked by my own political party at the moment. There's some sickening stuff being said on reddit/bluesky/twitter, and it's not even been a day.


Same here. Disgusting comments from so many.
Anonymous
Half the stories on Fox and fox owned properties are whining about Kirk coverage. They are turning this into a jihad and its going to end very badly for the country. It's also going to end badly for the GOP - unless they stop holding elections entirely. The GOP has such a long history of overplaying their hand. And that is what they are doing now...playing a hand.
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Anonymous wrote:Over and over again, the motive points to Israel



He stepped out of line with Israel.


Bigot much?
I can't see how jumping to "maybe the jews did it" this early with such little information is anything but bigoted.


He himself said he feared Israel might kill him. So this isn't about me or "bigotry." Try to keep up and pay better attention.
Most of the world is against Israel right now. This guy's single voice isn't worth a mossad operation. The Epstein angle on the other hand....


I really don’t understand the Epstein angle. It makes you guys sound crazy.
Then your being willfully ignorant that the most powerful man in the entire world is under threat of being canceled due to his friendship with a known pedophile.

But Charlie Kirk wouldn’t be the one to kill. Who was he? I don’t even know. That is how influential Charlie Kirk was. Sorry but he wasn’t important enough to assassinate.
Yes he is because he was the one who brought up the topic, when he called for the release of all government files related to Jeffrey Epstein.


No one knew who he was. You sound desperate and deranged.
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