She picked Tim

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Anonymous wrote:If it was up to JD Vance, I wouldn't have a family because of IVF.
Walz:

“Democrats are investing in prenatal care. We're the ones that are for universal pre-K. We're the ones that are providing school meals. I'm not gonna back down one bit on this whole family values thing. We're making it more affordable to have children by having paid family and medical leave. Where is JD Vance's program?”

Damned straight, Tim. This is why people like him & not the that freak, Vance.

The fed gov is supposed to be protecting our borders and funding and training our military. That’s its number one priority.

How about we do both? It's not a small government.

We don’t have the money to do both. The constitution says nothing about funding or investing in pre-k.

One in three families can’t afford basic school supplies for their kids. The economy stinks on ice. Why should the government take tax dollars to fund pre-k when taxpayers can’t afford school supplies?

The government has no mandate to fund so many things they are funding. Whatever personal challenges Walz or any other government official has faced, it’s their personal issue. Every single American has personal struggles and issues. The government should not be the answer to these personal issues and cannot be. The government cannot legislate personal issues. Walz is not speaking about the issues government has a duty to address; he’s speaking about his private fertility issues and those have no intersection with government.

Alabama Supreme Court said differently. Idaho is going after a banning of IVF. Project 2025, heritage foundation and JD Vance, all strong Donald supporters have vowed to go after a federal ban of abortion, followed by IVF and birth control.

Trump himself has said he does not want to ban abortion and he fully supports IVF.

Trump himself has also said he supports a 15 week ban.

Vance— VP to an elderly man with an unhealthy lifestyle— is even worse. Federal response to women seeking healthcare out of state.

I do not think it is legally possible to prevent a woman from traveling for healthcare. People go to out of state specialists all the time.

It is probable that this SC will side with those that will institute travel bans. There are some in place already.

https://www.americanoversight.org/behind-the-scenes-of-abortion-travel-bans

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Anonymous wrote:I'm new to this thread, so I haven't read the whole thing. I came looking for a place to ask this. I saw a WSJ article comparing the finances of both VP candidates. It was just another thing about Walz that left me feeling uneasy. How is a man his age so completely incapable of taking care of his family and himself financially? And with that in mind, how could anybody feel good about him being next in line for the presidency (not that the president is actually running the country, as we now know). I ask this sincerely. I am an independent voter who almost always voted Republican until Trump. Sat out the last election. But cannot see myself voting for this Harris/Walz ticket either. I live in DC, so my vote doesn't matter either way. But of course, almost all my friends are Dems, so I don't talk politics outside the home. When others impose their feelings onto me, they seem just blindly to be so excited about Harris/Walz and I truly find it baffling. She just doesn't engender confidence. And believe me, I want a woman president!

I will answer this in good faith. Between Gwen and Tim, they have 4 pensions (army, teacher, teacher, congressman). Between that and social security, their retirement is secure.

For a very long time, they were a dual income teacher/teacher household. You know how much money they make. For a long time, they tried IVF to have children. You know how much that costs. He has put money into his children’s 529 plan. They had a house that they sold when he moved into the governor’s mansion. Until his decision to run for office, the Walz family had a perfectly middle class life.

What he has not done, is to enrich himself while in office. This is not a failure, it’s a good thing. He didn’t sell himself out and make himself beholden to special interests, which means that he could actually work on behalf of his constituents without external pressures. I think we have became so used to corruption in politics that when we see someone who is not, it seems like a bad thing.

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My midwestern dad never made big bucks or had any investments but he did earn a pension over 35 years of hard work and that plus SS means his retirement has been more than comfortable for him.

A LOT of Americans can relate to someone who doesn’t have a million dollar investment portfolio.

I’d say Walz has done pretty good for himself and his family. I mean come on. He lives in a governor’s mansion. Sheesh.

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So basically, he has only ever held government jobs and is completely dependent on the government for all his wants and needs.

A pension is earned. You know, by working. In this case, by working in jobs that serve the public. To you, this is a failing. Most people consider teachers and military men and women to be doing some of the most important jobs there are.

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Anonymous wrote:He's just plain good.

and shows empathy.

I’m voting down ballot and leaving the top of the ticket blank or writing in Biden, so I have no horse in this race, but the whole chest clutching, guffawing thing comes off as really fake and performative to me. Sorry.

I've said this before: people who don't vote for one of the two main candidates are making a statement only to themselves. This literally helps nothing. In the race before us, there is a clearly better choice and whatever your reason for "writing in Biden," it will not be advanced by doing so.

These kind of people are self-important drama queens. PP was just using it as an opportunity to take a dig at Walz. It’s just an inauthentic post.

Different undecided voter here. People who are concerned about this far left ticket, who also refuse to vote for Trump, will just stay home.

I know it’s just a small subset of us, and the Dems are going after special interest groups with a large number of voters. So basically we are unhoused at the moment.

When the choice is wannabe dictator who already encouraged his followers to attack the Capitol and ANYONE ELSE, why would you not vote for anyone else? So stupid.

This. Goes way beyond policies. He doesn’t believe in democracy and the rule of law. He doesn’t believe in being governed by the constitution. That’s all I need to know. The rest is noise.

See, this is weird to me. He is far more committed to the Constitution than anybody on the left. Why do people always say this?

He tried to overthrow our government when he lost the election.

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Anonymous wrote:They would have stopped the minute he asked them to do so. But he didn't.

They did stop the minute he asked them to disperse. However it took Donald more than four hours to call off his cult followers.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm new to this thread, so I haven't read the whole thing. I came looking for a place to ask this. I saw a WSJ article comparing the finances of both VP candidates. It was just another thing about Walz that left me feeling uneasy. How is a man his age so completely incapable of taking care of his family and himself financially? And with that in mind, how could anybody feel good about him being next in line for the presidency (not that the president is actually running the country, as we now know). I ask this sincerely. I am an independent voter who almost always voted Republican until Trump. Sat out the last election. But cannot see myself voting for this Harris/Walz ticket either. I live in DC, so my vote doesn't matter either way. But of course, almost all my friends are Dems, so I don't talk politics outside the home. When others impose their feelings onto me, they seem just blindly to be so excited about Harris/Walz and I truly find it baffling. She just doesn't engender confidence. And believe me, I want a woman president!

I will answer this in good faith. Between Gwen and Tim, they have 4 pensions (army, teacher, teacher, congressman). Between that and social security, their retirement is secure.

For a very long time, they were a dual income teacher/teacher household. You know how much money they make. For a long time, they tried IVF to have children. You know how much that costs. He has put money into his children’s 529 plan. They had a house that they sold when he moved into the governor’s mansion. Until his decision to run for office, the Walz family had a perfectly middle class life.

What he has not done, is to enrich himself while in office. This is not a failure, it’s a good thing. He didn’t sell himself out and make himself beholden to special interests, which means that he could actually work on behalf of his constituents without external pressures. I think we have became so used to corruption in politics that when we see someone who is not, it seems like a bad thing.

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My midwestern dad never made big bucks or had any investments but he did earn a pension over 35 years of hard work and that plus SS means his retirement has been more than comfortable for him.

A LOT of Americans can relate to someone who doesn’t have a million dollar investment portfolio.

I’d say Walz has done pretty good for himself and his family. I mean come on. He lives in a governor’s mansion. Sheesh.

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So basically, he has only ever held government jobs and is completely dependent on the government for all his wants and needs.

Like millions of other people who work in the military, as teachers, as researchers for government agencies, in lots of jobs big and small in local, state and federal government. A big chunk of DC-area residents. I think he's a whole lot more relatable than tech-bro-funded Vance.

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Anonymous wrote:If it was up to JD Vance, I wouldn't have a family because of IVF.
Walz:

“Democrats are investing in prenatal care. We're the ones that are for universal pre-K. We're the ones that are providing school meals. I'm not gonna back down one bit on this whole family values thing. We're making it more affordable to have children by having paid family and medical leave. Where is JD Vance's program?”

Damned straight, Tim. This is why people like him & not the that freak, Vance.

The fed gov is supposed to be protecting our borders and funding and training our military. That’s its number one priority.

How about we do both? It's not a small government.

We don’t have the money to do both. The constitution says nothing about funding or investing in pre-k.

One in three families can’t afford basic school supplies for their kids. The economy stinks on ice. Why should the government take tax dollars to fund pre-k when taxpayers can’t afford school supplies?

The government has no mandate to fund so many things they are funding. Whatever personal challenges Walz or any other government official has faced, it’s their personal issue. Every single American has personal struggles and issues. The government should not be the answer to these personal issues and cannot be. The government cannot legislate personal issues. Walz is not speaking about the issues government has a duty to address; he’s speaking about his private fertility issues and those have no intersection with government.

Alabama Supreme Court said differently. Idaho is going after a banning of IVF. Project 2025, heritage foundation and JD Vance, all strong Donald supporters have vowed to go after a federal ban of abortion, followed by IVF and birth control.

Trump himself has said he does not want to ban abortion and he fully supports IVF.

Trump himself has also said he supports a 15 week ban.

Vance— VP to an elderly man with an unhealthy lifestyle— is even worse. Federal response to women seeking healthcare out of state.

I do not think it is legally possible to prevent a woman from traveling for healthcare. People go to out of state specialists all the time.

What exactly does legal precedence mean anymore, anyway? Presidents now immune to prosecution. The legal precedence of Roe V Wade "respected" by being overturned.

Oh, they are just getting started.

Sure it is. In effect if not in law. You pass a law saying people can’t obtain certain types of health care if there’re not a resident of that state. Or with exceptions that would be hard to meet. You give a private right of action to people to sue doctors or patients they suspect of violating the law. You make sure the doctors will meet jail time, lose their license, or pay incredible fines for violating the law. You can do the same with the patient if you want but it won’t be necessary.

Heck in PA there used to be (and maybe still are) laws against buying alcohol out of state and transporting it back. They can’t keep you from traveling but they can nab you when you cross back into PA. Cops used to hang out by the DE border in many areas and give tickets.

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Anonymous wrote:He's just plain good.

and shows empathy.

I’m voting down ballot and leaving the top of the ticket blank or writing in Biden, so I have no horse in this race, but the whole chest clutching, guffawing thing comes off as really fake and performative to me. Sorry.

I've said this before: people who don't vote for one of the two main candidates are making a statement only to themselves. This literally helps nothing. In the race before us, there is a clearly better choice and whatever your reason for "writing in Biden," it will not be advanced by doing so.

These kind of people are self-important drama queens. PP was just using it as an opportunity to take a dig at Walz. It’s just an inauthentic post.

Different undecided voter here. People who are concerned about this far left ticket, who also refuse to vote for Trump, will just stay home.

I know it’s just a small subset of us, and the Dems are going after special interest groups with a large number of voters. So basically we are unhoused at the moment.

When the choice is wannabe dictator who already encouraged his followers to attack the Capitol and ANYONE ELSE, why would you not vote for anyone else? So stupid.

This. Goes way beyond policies. He doesn’t believe in democracy and the rule of law. He doesn’t believe in being governed by the constitution. That’s all I need to know. The rest is noise.

See, this is weird to me. He is far more committed to the Constitution than anybody on the left. Why do people always say this?

Is this a joke? The orange felon tried to overturn the constitution on Jan 6.

See, but he didn't. A bunch of weirdos did.

It’s like you just memory holed all of the evidence Liz Cheney laid out for us.

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Walz apparently earned $150,000 a year as governor in 2024, and less in earlier years. https://www.lrl.mn.gov/mngov/governorsalariesI'm not sure whether his wife still teachers?

They both probably have government pensions they don't have to report because these are designed to be well-diversified and not to target any company for political reasons.

So basically, they're a middle class couple who didn't enrich themselves while he held office. This is a feature not a bug.

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Anonymous wrote:If it was up to JD Vance, I wouldn't have a family because of IVF.
Walz:

“Democrats are investing in prenatal care. We're the ones that are for universal pre-K. We're the ones that are providing school meals. I'm not gonna back down one bit on this whole family values thing. We're making it more affordable to have children by having paid family and medical leave. Where is JD Vance's program?”

Damned straight, Tim. This is why people like him & not the that freak, Vance.

The fed gov is supposed to be protecting our borders and funding and training our military. That’s its number one priority.

How about we do both? It's not a small government.

We don’t have the money to do both. The constitution says nothing about funding or investing in pre-k.

One in three families can’t afford basic school supplies for their kids. The economy stinks on ice. Why should the government take tax dollars to fund pre-k when taxpayers can’t afford school supplies?

The government has no mandate to fund so many things they are funding. Whatever personal challenges Walz or any other government official has faced, it’s their personal issue. Every single American has personal struggles and issues. The government should not be the answer to these personal issues and cannot be. The government cannot legislate personal issues. Walz is not speaking about the issues government has a duty to address; he’s speaking about his private fertility issues and those have no intersection with government.

Alabama Supreme Court said differently. Idaho is going after a banning of IVF. Project 2025, heritage foundation and JD Vance, all strong Donald supporters have vowed to go after a federal ban of abortion, followed by IVF and birth control.

Trump himself has said he does not want to ban abortion and he fully supports IVF.

Trump himself has also said he supports a 15 week ban.

Vance— VP to an elderly man with an unhealthy lifestyle— is even worse. Federal response to women seeking healthcare out of state.

I do not think it is legally possible to prevent a woman from traveling for healthcare. People go to out of state specialists all the time.

Well JD Vance disagrees with you. He said there would need to be a federal response if women went out of state to seek abortions in places where it remained legal. This guy is one KFC from the presidency.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm new to this thread, so I haven't read the whole thing. I came looking for a place to ask this. I saw a WSJ article comparing the finances of both VP candidates. It was just another thing about Walz that left me feeling uneasy. How is a man his age so completely incapable of taking care of his family and himself financially? And with that in mind, how could anybody feel good about him being next in line for the presidency (not that the president is actually running the country, as we now know). I ask this sincerely. I am an independent voter who almost always voted Republican until Trump. Sat out the last election. But cannot see myself voting for this Harris/Walz ticket either. I live in DC, so my vote doesn't matter either way. But of course, almost all my friends are Dems, so I don't talk politics outside the home. When others impose their feelings onto me, they seem just blindly to be so excited about Harris/Walz and I truly find it baffling. She just doesn't engender confidence. And believe me, I want a woman president!

You are more concerned that someone doesn’t have investments than you are with one who regularly stiffs and cons people (see Trump’s multiple lawsuits, bankruptcies and felony convictions) and never pays his bills (see his inability to fly into Bozeman bc he still owes the airport money from the last election)? Your concerns cannot be taken seriously with that mentality.

Love it. Good for Bozeman giving Trump the middle finger using both hands.

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Anonymous wrote:If it was up to JD Vance, I wouldn't have a family because of IVF.
Walz:

“Democrats are investing in prenatal care. We're the ones that are for universal pre-K. We're the ones that are providing school meals. I'm not gonna back down one bit on this whole family values thing. We're making it more affordable to have children by having paid family and medical leave. Where is JD Vance's program?”

Damned straight, Tim. This is why people like him & not the that freak, Vance.

The fed gov is supposed to be protecting our borders and funding and training our military. That’s its number one priority.

How about we do both? It's not a small government.

We don’t have the money to do both. The constitution says nothing about funding or investing in pre-k.

One in three families can’t afford basic school supplies for their kids. The economy stinks on ice. Why should the government take tax dollars to fund pre-k when taxpayers can’t afford school supplies?

The government has no mandate to fund so many things they are funding. Whatever personal challenges Walz or any other government official has faced, it’s their personal issue. Every single American has personal struggles and issues. The government should not be the answer to these personal issues and cannot be. The government cannot legislate personal issues. Walz is not speaking about the issues government has a duty to address; he’s speaking about his private fertility issues and those have no intersection with government.

Alabama Supreme Court said differently. Idaho is going after a banning of IVF. Project 2025, heritage foundation and JD Vance, all strong Donald supporters have vowed to go after a federal ban of abortion, followed by IVF and birth control.

Trump himself has said he does not want to ban abortion and he fully supports IVF.

Trump himself has also said he supports a 15 week ban.

Vance— VP to an elderly man with an unhealthy lifestyle— is even worse. Federal response to women seeking healthcare out of state.

I do not think it is legally possible to prevent a woman from traveling for healthcare. People go to out of state specialists all the time.

Well JD Vance disagrees with you. He said there would need to be a federal response if women went out of state to seek abortions in places where it remained legal. This guy is one KFC from the presidency.

Is it possible to share a link? I have not seen this reported in MSM.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm new to this thread, so I haven't read the whole thing. I came looking for a place to ask this. I saw a WSJ article comparing the finances of both VP candidates. It was just another thing about Walz that left me feeling uneasy. How is a man his age so completely incapable of taking care of his family and himself financially? And with that in mind, how could anybody feel good about him being next in line for the presidency (not that the president is actually running the country, as we now know). I ask this sincerely. I am an independent voter who almost always voted Republican until Trump. Sat out the last election. But cannot see myself voting for this Harris/Walz ticket either. I live in DC, so my vote doesn't matter either way. But of course, almost all my friends are Dems, so I don't talk politics outside the home. When others impose their feelings onto me, they seem just blindly to be so excited about Harris/Walz and I truly find it baffling. She just doesn't engender confidence. And believe me, I want a woman president!

You are more concerned that someone doesn’t have investments than you are with one who regularly stiffs and cons people (see Trump’s multiple lawsuits, bankruptcies and felony convictions) and never pays his bills (see his inability to fly into Bozeman bc he still owes the airport money from the last election)? Your concerns cannot be taken seriously with that mentality.

Love it. Good for Bozeman giving Trump the middle finger using both hands.

That’s hilarious, I haven’t seen any reporting on this. Do you have a link?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm new to this thread, so I haven't read the whole thing. I came looking for a place to ask this. I saw a WSJ article comparing the finances of both VP candidates. It was just another thing about Walz that left me feeling uneasy. How is a man his age so completely incapable of taking care of his family and himself financially? And with that in mind, how could anybody feel good about him being next in line for the presidency (not that the president is actually running the country, as we now know). I ask this sincerely. I am an independent voter who almost always voted Republican until Trump. Sat out the last election. But cannot see myself voting for this Harris/Walz ticket either. I live in DC, so my vote doesn't matter either way. But of course, almost all my friends are Dems, so I don't talk politics outside the home. When others impose their feelings onto me, they seem just blindly to be so excited about Harris/Walz and I truly find it baffling. She just doesn't engender confidence. And believe me, I want a woman president!

I will answer this in good faith. Between Gwen and Tim, they have 4 pensions (army, teacher, teacher, congressman). Between that and social security, their retirement is secure.

For a very long time, they were a dual income teacher/teacher household. You know how much money they make. For a long time, they tried IVF to have children. You know how much that costs. He has put money into his children’s 529 plan. They had a house that they sold when he moved into the governor’s mansion. Until his decision to run for office, the Walz family had a perfectly middle class life.

What he has not done, is to enrich himself while in office. This is not a failure, it’s a good thing. He didn’t sell himself out and make himself beholden to special interests, which means that he could actually work on behalf of his constituents without external pressures. I think we have became so used to corruption in politics that when we see someone who is not, it seems like a bad thing.

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My midwestern dad never made big bucks or had any investments but he did earn a pension over 35 years of hard work and that plus SS means his retirement has been more than comfortable for him.

A LOT of Americans can relate to someone who doesn’t have a million dollar investment portfolio.

I’d say Walz has done pretty good for himself and his family. I mean come on. He lives in a governor’s mansion. Sheesh.

DP.
So basically, he has only ever held government jobs and is completely dependent on the government for all his wants and needs.

A pension is earned. You know, by working. In this case, by working in jobs that serve the public. To you, this is a failing. Most people consider teachers and military men and women to be doing some of the most important jobs there are.

+1 Thank you!!

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and shows empathy.

I’m voting down ballot and leaving the top of the ticket blank or writing in Biden, so I have no horse in this race, but the whole chest clutching, guffawing thing comes off as really fake and performative to me. Sorry.

I've said this before: people who don't vote for one of the two main candidates are making a statement only to themselves. This literally helps nothing. In the race before us, there is a clearly better choice and whatever your reason for "writing in Biden," it will not be advanced by doing so.

yep. and it's cowardly and narcissistic.

Just listen to yourself. Disparaging people who don’t agree with how you vote isn’t helping your cause.

Newsflash - people can vote any way they want. Doing so does not make them cowardly or narcissistic.

You have to admit that a person who can’t be bothered to vote in a way that helps protect their friends and neighbors from the greater evil is pretty self-centered.

Once again, anyone who doesn’t vote the way you do is evil and self centered.

This is a huge part of the reason I left the democratic party.

Vote however you want. If you think the Democrats are even close to as bad (or worse) as MAGA Republicans, you’re an idiot. Trump tried to overthrow our government when he lost in 2020. He’s a rapist and convicted felon. Just for starters. But if, despite all that, you thought Democrats were the same, it would be an ethical choice to not vote or vote third party.

But if you recognize Republicans as the greater evil, it’s unethical to harm your friends and neighbors by acting in a way that empowers and enables the rapist who tried to overthrow our democracy.